{"id":13973,"date":"2014-06-10T09:15:29","date_gmt":"2014-06-10T07:15:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=13973"},"modified":"2014-06-10T11:59:32","modified_gmt":"2014-06-10T09:59:32","slug":"rusky-mag-chce-slepe-cechy-naucit-videt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=13973","title":{"rendered":"Rusk\u00fd m\u00e1g chce slep\u00e9 \u010cechy nau\u010dit vid\u011bt"},"content":{"rendered":"

Report\u00e1\u017e TV Nova o zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed metod\u011b rusk\u00e9ho m\u00e1ga Marka Komissarova, jak se nau\u010dit vid\u011bt se zav\u0159en\u00fdma o\u010dima. Chce tak\u00e9 slep\u00fdm a slabozrak\u00fdm uk\u00e1zat re\u00e1lnou cestu, jak uvid\u011bt okoln\u00ed sv\u011bt.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\u00fa\u010dastn\u00edci kurzu Marka Komissarova, rusk\u00e9ho m\u00e1ga, v T\u00fdnci na S\u00e1zavou<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tom\u00e1\u0161 : Vlastn\u011b nejd\u0159\u00edv jsme ze za\u010d\u00e1tku vid\u011bli te\u010dky, nebo te\u010dku. Jakkoliv barevnou a m\u011bli jsme u toho zav\u0159en\u00fd o\u010di. A potom jsme ji furt roz\u0161i\u0159ovali jako, aby byla v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed. A potom jsme v t\u00fd te\u010dce vid\u011bli d\u00edru jako ven.<\/p>\n

Je to v\u016fbec uv\u011b\u0159iteln\u00e9? Je, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 Jan Sv\u011btl\u00e1k. To on a jeho \u017eena d\u011bti z T\u00fdnce a z dal\u0161\u00edch m\u00edst u\u010d\u00ed vid\u011bt se zakryt\u00fdma o\u010dima. Co teda ty d\u011bti u\u010d\u00edte?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jan SV\u011aTL\u00c1K, :
\nTy d\u011bti si aktivuj\u00ed to centrum informa\u010dn\u00ed, ale pouze na tu zp\u016fsobilost vid\u011bn\u00ed a vlastn\u011b rozkouk\u00e1vaj\u00ed se, jako kdyby m\u011bly nov\u00e9 oko. A ze za\u010d\u00e1tku to je prost\u011b takov\u00fd mlhav\u00fd, je tam n\u011bjak\u00e1 mal\u00e1 dirka, t\u00edm tr\u00e9ninkem to roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed a za\u010dnou vid\u011bt vlastn\u011b stejn\u011b jako fyzick\u00fdma o\u010dima. Akor\u00e1t \u017ee tohle oko je nez\u00e1visl\u00fd na t\u011bch fyzick\u00fdch. To znamen\u00e1, je zdrav\u00fd. Tam z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na t\u011bch d\u011btech, jak jsou tomu otev\u0159en\u00fd, jak moc tomu v\u011b\u0159\u00ed, jak vlastn\u011b do toho daj\u00ed tu svoji, tu energii, to nad\u0161en\u00ed.<\/p>\n

SV\u011aTL\u00c1K :
\nn\u011bkter\u00fd d\u011bti se dok\u00e1\u017e\u00ed rozkoukat velice rychle, jsou fakt extr\u00e9mn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edpady, kter\u00fd prost\u011b do patn\u00e1cti minut vid\u011bj\u00ed. Ale n\u011bkter\u00fd to trv\u00e1 prost\u011b podstatn\u011b d\u00fdl.<\/p>\n

Co s d\u011btmi dok\u00e1\u017ee Jan Sv\u011btl\u00e1k, m\u016f\u017ee n\u011bkomu p\u0159ipadat jako z\u00e1zrak. Ale i on je jenom \u017e\u00e1kem. \u017d\u00e1kem Marka Komissarova, rusk\u00e9ho u\u010ditele takzvan\u00e9ho mimosmyslov\u00e9ho vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed. Ten dnes sice \u017eije v USA, ale po\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1 kurzy po cel\u00e9m sv\u011bt\u011b. Letos v \u0159\u00edjnu zav\u00edtal i k n\u00e1m.<\/strong><\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka tlumo\u010d\u00ed Marka KOMISSAROVA:
\nZd\u00e1 se, \u017ee je to z\u00e1zrak, ve skute\u010dnosti se jedn\u00e1 o schopnost lidsk\u00e9ho mozku. Prvn\u00ed p\u0159edpoklad? \u0158ekl jsem si, \u017ee v\u0161echna t\u011bla v na\u0161em materi\u00e1ln\u00edm sv\u011bt\u011b vyza\u0159uj\u00ed jak\u00e9si z\u00e1\u0159en\u00ed, kter\u00e9 v\u011bda zat\u00edm nezn\u00e1. S\u00e1m pro sebe jsem to nazval informa\u010dn\u00edm z\u00e1\u0159en\u00edm. Jedn\u00e1 se o z\u00e1\u0159en\u00ed, kter\u00e9 nese plnou informaci o p\u0159edm\u011btu, kter\u00fd ho vyza\u0159uje. Dal\u0161\u00ed naprosto nev\u011bdeck\u00fd p\u0159edpoklad byl, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk m\u00e1 v mozku centrum, kter\u00e9 je schopn\u00e9 toto z\u00e1\u0159en\u00ed zachytit a de\u0161ifrovat ho v n\u011bjak\u00e9m n\u00e1m zn\u00e1m\u00e9m re\u017eimu vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed. A mn\u011b se zd\u00e1lo d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 a pot\u0159ebn\u00e9 nau\u010dit se toto centrum aktivizovat v ka\u017ed\u00e9m.<\/p>\n

Co o\u010dek\u00e1vaj\u00ed lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed se p\u0159ihl\u00e1sili do jeho kurzu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00fa\u010dastn\u00edci kurzu:
\nNejd\u0159\u00edv, kdy\u017e jsem se o tom zm\u00ednila u zn\u00e1m\u00fdch, tak mi \u0159ekli: ty ses zbl\u00e1znila, tohlencto nem\u016f\u017ee, to koukaj\u00ed n\u011bjakou d\u00edrkou. A kdy\u017e opravdu \u010dlov\u011bk zkus\u00ed ty br\u00fdle, tak nen\u00ed nic vid\u011bt. J\u00e1 jsem toti\u017e doprov\u00e1zela nevidom\u00e9ho a nev\u011bd\u011bla jsem kam. \u0158ekl jenom adresu, tak jsem \u0161la s n\u00edm, a pak jsem \u0159\u00edkala: na co to jdete? No to mus\u00ed b\u00fdt zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, vid\u011bt bez o\u010d\u00ed? Intuitivn\u011b, no to je n\u00e1dhern\u00fd. Je, m\u016f\u017eu z\u016fstat s v\u00e1ma? Abych na\u0161la nov\u00e9 vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed, nov\u00fd rozm\u011br vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed a informaci. Intuitivn\u011b m\u011b to zaujalo a \u0159ekla jsem si, \u017ee kdy\u017e intuice mi \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee m\u00e1m na ten semin\u00e1\u0159 j\u00edt, tak \u017ee p\u016fjdu. J\u00e1 jsem sem jel ani ne tak s c\u00edlem dok\u00e1zat vid\u011bt bez o\u010d\u00ed, jakoby poznat tu metodiku, poznat ten zp\u016fsob, tu cestu.<\/p>\n

Nen\u00ed za tou v\u00fdukou p\u0159ece jen n\u011bjak\u00fd podvod, nebo alespo\u0148 manipulace? To byly ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 jsme si kladli, kdy\u017e jsme se kurz\u016f rozhodli z\u00fa\u010dastnit i s na\u0161\u00ed kamerou. Vra\u0165me se mezit\u00edm k na\u0161im z\u00e1zra\u010dn\u00fdm d\u011btem a k jejich rodi\u010d\u016fm. Jak dlouho v\u00e1m to trvalo, ne\u017e jste se nau\u010dili takhle vid\u011bt?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tom\u00e1\u0161 : Tak za hodinu.<\/p>\n

Kate\u0159ina : Ono to bylo hodn\u011b rychl\u00fd.<\/p>\n

rodi\u010d d\u011bt\u00ed: Ne, tak to nen\u00ed, ne, \u017ee by to bylo \u00fapln\u011b za hodinu jo. Ale kdy\u017e zav\u0159ou ty o\u010di, tak co se jim tak jakoby rozsv\u00edt\u00ed, tak je nejd\u0159\u00edv hrozn\u011b malink\u00fd, tak\u017ee kdy\u017e si vezmete ten pap\u00edr, a je t\u0159eba \u010derven\u00e1 barva, tak jako u\u017e ze za\u010d\u00e1tku vn\u00edm\u00e1te jako \u010derven\u00e1. No a pak se to roz\u0161i\u0159uje, on u\u017e vid\u00ed celou tu \u010dtvrtku.\u00a0 \u017de ale ten \u00fasp\u011bch u t\u011bch d\u011bt\u00ed, kdy\u017e se to startuje, je velice rychlej.<\/p>\n

Tom\u00e1\u0161 : J\u00e1 to vid\u00edm norm\u00e1ln\u011b, jsem tam m\u011bl zav\u0159en\u00fd o\u010di, tak se mi tam objevil ten krou\u017eek. A pak jsem to na\u0161el tady.<\/p>\n

rodi\u010d d\u011bt\u00ed: J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161ina d\u011bt\u00ed by se to mohla nau\u010dit.<\/p>\n

rodi\u010d d\u011bt\u00ed:
\nTen syst\u00e9m vlastn\u011b funguje tak, \u017ee kdy\u017e to d\u00edt\u011b m\u00e1 na sob\u011b ty brejli\u010dky a vezmete ta\u0161ku, do t\u00fd d\u00e1te t\u0159eba jabl\u00ed\u010dko, zav\u0159ete to a \u0159eknete mu: co tam je? Tak on \u0159ekne: ale otev\u0159i mi to. J\u00e1 to pot\u0159ebuju vid\u011bt t\u00edm vnit\u0159n\u00edm okem. A tak se to otev\u0159e, on se tam pod\u00edv\u00e1. A \u0159ekne: je tam jabko. a ten druhej m\u00f3d, to u\u017e je tro\u0161ku n\u011bco jin\u00fdho. Tam po t\u011bch 12 letech a vej\u0161 tam u\u017e je asi to vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed tro\u0161ku jin\u00fd, tam m\u016f\u017ee bejt ta ta\u0161ka zav\u0159en\u00e1 a tam jako vyc\u00edt\u00ed, nedok\u00e1\u017eu \u0159\u00edct, ale n\u011bjakou frekvenci toho jabka, a \u0159ekne jabko.<\/p>\n

Pr\u00e1v\u011b pro ten tzv. druh\u00fd m\u00f3d, neboli v\u011bd\u011bn\u00ed m\u00edsto vid\u011bn\u00ed si p\u0159i\u0161la na kurz Marka Komissarova v\u011bt\u0161ina dosp\u011bl\u00fdch \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f. Jak\u00fd je rozd\u00edl mezi takzvan\u00fdm vid\u011bn\u00edm a v\u011bd\u011bn\u00edm?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jan SV\u011aTL\u00c1K :
\nto vid\u011bn\u00ed je vlastn\u011b omezen\u00fd, je to omezen\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st toho sv\u011bta, kdy vlastn\u011b vid\u00edme to sam\u00e9, co vid\u00edme fyzick\u00fdma o\u010dima. To znamen\u00e1, oni taky nevid\u00ed.<\/p>\n

\u010cili oni m\u016f\u017eou vid\u011bt i to, co je za dve\u0159ma?<\/strong><\/p>\n

SV\u011aTL\u00c1K : Tak, ne vid\u011bt, ale v\u011bd\u011bt.<\/p>\n

V\u011bd\u011bt, co tam je?<\/strong><\/p>\n

SV\u011aTL\u00c1K: Ur\u010dit\u011b, proto\u017ee kam zam\u011b\u0159\u00ed tu svoji my\u0161lenku, tam jim ta informace v podob\u011b odpov\u011bdi p\u0159ijde.<\/p>\n

P\u0159itom cvi\u010den\u00ed za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 stejn\u011b jako to d\u011btsk\u00e9. Zav\u0159ete o\u010di a sna\u017e\u00edte se ur\u010dit barvu pap\u00edr\u016f, kel\u00edmk\u016f, hodnotu karet.<\/strong><\/p>\n

M\u016f\u017eeme si \u0159\u00edkat, \u017ee Mark sv\u00fdm student\u016fm pom\u00e1h\u00e1 sugesc\u00ed, aby ka\u017ed\u00fd alespo\u0148 n\u011bco uh\u00e1dl a byl spokojen\u00fd. \u017de pracuje velmi umn\u011b s doteky a v\u016fbec drobnou manipulac\u00ed. I mn\u011b tak tro\u0161i\u010dku pomohl naj\u00edt spr\u00e1vn\u00fd kel\u00edmek. Ale n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed studenti za\u010dnou m\u00edt schopnosti, kter\u00e9 jsou opravdu hodn\u011b zaj\u00edmav\u00e9. A \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd podvod za nimi rozhodn\u011b nestoj\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka tlumo\u010d\u00ed slova Marka KOMISSAROVa: \u0158ekni, jak\u00fd slovo m\u00e1\u0161 p\u0159ed sebou. Zkus to.<\/p>\n

osoba: L\u00e9to.<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka: Spr\u00e1vn\u011b.<\/p>\n

osoba: Puma.<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka : Spr\u00e1vn\u011b.<\/p>\n

osoba: My\u0161?<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka: Ne.<\/p>\n

osoba: S\u00fdr?<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka :S\u00fdr.<\/p>\n

Je to pravda a nen\u00ed. Kdy\u017e na slova hled\u011bla se zav\u0159en\u00fdma o\u010dima, \u010detla je pom\u011brn\u011b p\u0159esn\u011b. Tak jako d\u011bti s nepr\u016fhledn\u00fdmi br\u00fdlemi. Kdy\u017e ale hledala spr\u00e1vn\u00e1, obr\u00e1cen\u00e1 dol\u016f, stoprocentn\u011b \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00e1 nebyla. A nav\u00edc Mark byl p\u0159\u00edtomen. Mohl na studentku tedy n\u011bjak p\u016fsobit. Jen\u017ee d\u011bti jsme nat\u00e1\u010deli v jejich p\u0159irozen\u00e9m prost\u0159ed\u00ed. Bez Markovy p\u0159\u00edtomnosti, aby opravdu nemohl nic ovlivnit. M\u00e1te pocit, \u017ee ho to zm\u011bnilo?<\/strong><\/p>\n

rodi\u010d d\u011bt\u00ed:
\nT\u0159eba pan\u00ed u\u010ditelka byla p\u0159ekvapen\u00e1, proto\u017ee on je takov\u00fd \u017eiv\u00fd tvore\u010dek. A najednou ona mi pov\u00edd\u00e1: tam st\u00e1l \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00fd Tom\u00e1\u0161. St\u00e1l v klidu, v\u0161echno hezky rozumn\u011b, srozumiteln\u011b pov\u00eddal t\u011bm d\u011btem. A ona byla p\u0159ekvapen\u00e1, proto\u017ee takov\u00fdho ho nezn\u00e1.<\/p>\n

K \u010demu to m\u016f\u017ee bejt dobr\u00fd v praxi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

rodi\u010de d\u011bt\u00ed:
\nK \u010demu to m\u016f\u017ee bejt dobr\u00fd? Tohle si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee uk\u00e1\u017ee \u010das. Pro \u010dlov\u011bka, kterej, kterej vid\u00ed, tak to pro n\u011bj nen\u00ed k ni\u010demu, \u017ee. Ale dobr\u00fd je to i pro d\u011bti a i pro ty, co se do toho dostali a co to vid\u011bli, jenom to, \u017ee v\u011bd\u00ed, \u017ee je tady n\u011bco, co n\u00e1s ve \u0161kole neu\u010dili, co existuje, co je pravda. A \u017ee mo\u017en\u00e1 takov\u00fdch informac\u00ed se budeme postupem \u010dasu dozv\u00eddat v\u00edc a v\u00edc.<\/p>\n

Ale i kdybychom nev\u011b\u0159ili v\u016fbec ni\u010demu, pak tomuhle nevidom\u00e9mu studentovi v\u011b\u0159it prost\u011b mus\u00edte. Po p\u011btidenn\u00edm kurzu najednou um\u011bl to, co neum\u00ed ani ti, co vid\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Martin, nevidom\u00fd \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk kurzu: \u010cerven\u00e1, \u017elut\u00e1, modr\u00e1, \u010derven\u00e1 nebo oran\u017eov\u00e1. Zelen\u00e1.<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka tlumo\u010d\u00ed KOMISSAROVA: Jakou barvu m\u00e1 tento kel\u00edmek?<\/p>\n

Martin, nevidom\u00fd \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk kurzu:Modrou.<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka: Tenhle?<\/p>\n

Martin, \u017dlutou. \u010cervenou.<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka : Tak nejd\u0159\u00edv \u017elutej. Je\u0161t\u011b je tam jeden. T\u0159i modr\u00e9. A t\u0159i \u010derven\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Martin:Ulice?<\/p>\n

p\u0159ekladatelka: V\u00fdborn\u011b.<\/p>\n

Martin:\u00a0 V ruce dr\u017e\u00ed\u0161 m\u00e1mu.<\/p>\n

Vy to v\u00edte? Nebo to vid\u00edte?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Martin: Nevid\u00edm to, ur\u010dit\u011b to nevid\u00edm. Jako jo, to je pocit. J\u00e1 se na n\u011bj nem\u016f\u017eu spolehnout jakoby, je to moc \u010derstv\u00fd pro m\u011b.<\/p>\n

Mark KOMISSAROV: Cht\u011bl bych, aby lid\u00e9 na tom videu nevid\u011bli pouze m\u00e9ho skv\u011bl\u00e9ho studenta Martina, ale tak\u00e9 cestu pro lidi s o\u010dn\u00edmi probl\u00e9my. Pro slep\u00e9 a slabozrak\u00e9. Je to re\u00e1ln\u00e1 cesta, jak uvid\u011bt okoln\u00ed sv\u011bt.<\/p>\n

Josef KL\u00cdMA, moder\u00e1tor:
\nNad\u011bje pro nevidom\u00e9, to je asi to hlavn\u00ed, co jsme si odnesli z kurz\u016f Marka Komissarova. Hledali jsme trik a podvod, ale \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd jsme nena\u0161li. Hledali jsme vysv\u011btlen\u00ed, ale ani to jsme nena\u0161li. Kdyby ale tahle zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed schopnost pomohla jedin\u00e9mu slepci, je to z\u00e1zrak.<\/p>\n

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