{"id":14376,"date":"2014-01-14T10:36:49","date_gmt":"2014-01-14T09:36:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=14376"},"modified":"2014-01-14T10:36:49","modified_gmt":"2014-01-14T09:36:49","slug":"lide-se-uz-mene-boji-kontaktu-s-invalidy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=14376","title":{"rendered":"Lid\u00e9 se u\u017e m\u00e9n\u011b boj\u00ed kontaktu s invalidy"},"content":{"rendered":"

Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l hovo\u0159il se Sl\u00e1vkou Hockou z Nadace Sirius o soci\u00e1ln\u00edch kampan\u00edch i o tom, kterak se m\u011bn\u00ed postoj \u010desk\u00e9 ve\u0159ejnosti k lidem se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm. Nadace je zn\u00e1m\u00e1 televizn\u00edm spotem „Chod\u00edc\u00ed lid\u00e9“ <\/strong><\/p>\n

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Co je pro zdravotn\u011b posti\u017een\u00e9 lidi \u00fasp\u011bchem?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sl\u00e1vka HOCK\u00c1, Nadace Sirius:
\nCo je pro n\u011b t\u00edm \u00fasp\u011bchem….\u00a0 pro ka\u017ed\u00fdho je ten \u00fasp\u011bch v tom, v \u010dem ho chce m\u00edt. Ale j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee pro spoustu z n\u00e1s, kte\u0159\u00ed m\u00e1me spoustu mo\u017enost\u00ed, tak prost\u011b my se \u010dasto realizujeme v pr\u00e1ci. Prost\u011b ka\u017ed\u00fd se realizuje tam, kde se realizovat m\u016f\u017ee, a tam, kde se realizovat chce, tam, kde na to m\u00e1<\/p>\n

Va\u0161e nadace d\u011bl\u00e1 kampa\u0148, kter\u00e1 se jmenuje Chod\u00edc\u00ed lid\u00e9. Na co je p\u0159esn\u011b zam\u011b\u0159ena?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kampa\u0148 je zam\u011b\u0159en\u00e1 na zm\u011bnu postoje ve\u0159ejnosti v\u016f\u010di lidem s posti\u017een\u00edm, proto\u017ee kdy\u017e jsme si \u00fapln\u011b na za\u010d\u00e1tku, to jsem je\u0161t\u011b v nadaci nebyla, ale kdy\u017e jsme si ud\u011blali vlastn\u011b velk\u00fd monitoring, tak jsme zjistili, \u017ee ten jeden z nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edch probl\u00e9m\u016f, ne jedin\u00fd samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, ale z nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edch probl\u00e9m\u016f je, jak se vlastn\u011b „zdrav\u00ed“ lid\u00e9 koukaj\u00ed na lidi s posti\u017een\u00edm, \u017ee je bu\u010f podce\u0148uj\u00ed nebo jich lituj\u00ed nebo ani je necht\u011bj\u00ed t\u0159eba k ni\u010demu pustit. A to je pr\u00e1v\u011b o tom, \u017ee se my se sna\u017e\u00edme vysv\u011btlit ve\u0159ejnosti , \u017ee ti lid\u00e9 jsou stejn\u00ed jako vy nebo j\u00e1, jenom prost\u011b maj\u00ed n\u011bjakou … Tak jako j\u00e1 nem\u00e1m hudebn\u00ed sluch, tak n\u011bkdo nesly\u0161\u00ed v\u016fbec nebo nevid\u00ed v\u016fbec. Ale to neznamen\u00e1, \u017ee je v du\u0161i jinej a \u017ee se chce, p\u0159esn\u011b, \u017ee se t\u0159eba nechce realizovat, \u017ee t\u0159eba nechce sportovat, nebo \u017ee m\u00e1 sed\u011bt doma a nic ned\u011blat.<\/p>\n

Co by m\u011bl, Jene \u0158\u00edho, ud\u011blat \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd v\u00e1m chce t\u0159eba na ulici pomoct, abyste bezpe\u010dn\u011b p\u0159e\u0161el p\u0159es silnici?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jan \u0158\u00cdHA, nevidom\u00fd horolezec:
\nTak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b oslovit, zeptat se a pak vlastn\u011b ten nevidom\u00fd, co ho chyt\u00ed za p\u0159edlokt\u00ed a jde kousek za n\u00edm. Dnes u\u017e ty lidi tro\u0161ku to v\u011bd\u011bj. V\u011bt\u0161inou toho \u010dlov\u011bka \u010dapli a tla\u010dili ho p\u0159ed sebou, co\u017e je \u0161patn\u011b, proto\u017ee ten nevidom\u00fd vlastn\u011b nev\u00ed, kdy\u017e jde prvn\u00ed, jestli je schod nebo n\u011bco takov\u00fdho. Tak\u017ee on jde vlastn\u011b kousek za t\u00edm \u010dlov\u011bkem, kter\u00fd ho p\u0159ev\u00e1d\u00ed, a v\u00ed, \u017ee ten \u010dlov\u011bk p\u0159ed n\u00edm vystoup\u00e1 t\u0159eba na obrubn\u00edk, \u017ee je v\u00fd\u0161.<\/p>\n

Zept\u00e1m se Soni Hock\u00e9 z Nadace Sirius, Jan \u0158\u00edha je jednou z tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed t\u00e9 va\u0161\u00ed kampan\u011b. Kter\u00e9 jsou ty dal\u0161\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sl\u00e1vka HOCK\u00c1 :
\nMy tam m\u00e1me dal\u0161\u00ed dva p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy. P\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy t\u0159i v podstat\u011b z ka\u017ed\u00e9ho druhu, t\u011bch nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edch druh\u016f posti\u017een\u00ed. Jeden, a taky z ka\u017ed\u00e9ho prost\u0159ed\u00ed jeden. To znamen\u00e1, m\u00e1me tam Petra Valch\u00e1\u0159e, kter\u00fd hraje v akrobatick\u00e9m p\u0159edstaven\u00ed La Putyka, p\u0159esto\u017ee je voz\u00ed\u010dk\u00e1\u0159. M\u00e1me tam Dana Pila\u0159e, kter\u00fd \u0159\u00edd\u00ed tax\u00edk, p\u0159esto\u017ee nesly\u0161\u00ed, tak\u017ee si ka\u017ed\u00fd den vlastn\u011b pov\u00edd\u00e1 se spoustou lid\u00ed. Tak\u017ee jsou to vlastn\u011b t\u0159i …<\/p>\n

\u0158\u00edk\u00e1 tax\u00edk a nesly\u0161\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

HOCK\u00c1
\nOn \u0159\u00edd\u00ed tax\u00edk, je norm\u00e1ln\u011b taxik\u00e1\u0159, m\u016f\u017eete ho po Praze potkat. N\u011bkolik \u010dten\u00e1\u0159\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed n\u00e1m odpov\u00eddali na Facebook, ho prost\u011b v Praze potkali. Norm\u00e1ln\u011b nastoup\u00edte a on v\u00e1m \u0159ekne, \u017ee mu m\u00e1te napsat, kam chcete jet. To je v\u0161echno.<\/p>\n

Aha a tyhle t\u0159i tv\u00e1\u0159e toho va\u0161eho projektu u\u017e se se\u0161ly mezi sebou, setkaly se?<\/strong><\/p>\n

HOCK\u00c1,
\nMezi sebou se nesetkaly, to je tro\u0161ku jako ve vtipu, kdy\u017e se sejde nevidom\u00fd, nesly\u0161\u00edc\u00ed a voz\u00ed\u010dk\u00e1\u0159.<\/p>\n

J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee si to m\u016f\u017eeme dovolit, proto\u017ee Jan \u0158\u00edha se sm\u011bje, m\u00e1 \u00fasta od ucha k uchu v tuto chv\u00edli.<\/strong><\/p>\n

HOCK\u00c1,
\nUr\u010dit\u011b by to \u0161lo, ale zat\u00edm se nepotkali.<\/p>\n

Jene, m\u011b \u00fapln\u011b fascinovalo, \u017ee t\u0159eba jste se nau\u010dil \u0161t\u00edpat d\u0159\u00edv\u00ed v d\u011btstv\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0158\u00cdHA
\nTak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b je to p\u0159esn\u011b o tom, jak se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, nenechat toho \u010dlov\u011bka doma jenom zav\u0159en\u00fdho u r\u00e1dia a u televize nebo u po\u010d\u00edta\u010de, ale sna\u017eit se handicapovan\u00fdho \u010dlov\u011bka, pokud mu to jeho handicap umo\u017en\u00ed, prost\u011b zapojit do b\u011b\u017en\u00fdch v\u011bc\u00ed. Ono se to pak hod\u00ed v \u017eivot\u011b. A j\u00e1 jsem hlavn\u011b v\u017edycky na pr\u00e1zdnin\u00e1ch hrozn\u011b r\u00e1d jezdil k d\u011bdovi a k babi\u010dce, tak jsem tam v\u017edycky byl skoro cel\u00fd pr\u00e1zdniny, proto\u017ee prost\u011b d\u011bda u\u017e byl v d\u016fchodu a takhle, tak jsme, d\u011bda v\u017edycky \u0161t\u00edpal d\u0159\u00edv\u00ed, tak\u017ee m\u011b d\u011bda nau\u010dil \u0161t\u00edpat d\u0159\u00edv\u00ed. A pak vlastn\u011b, kdy\u017e u\u017e t\u0159eba p\u016fl\u00edte takov\u00fd ty t\u0159eba metrov\u00fd velk\u00fd \u0161palky, jen aby to prosychalo, kl\u00ednama a palic\u00ed, tak jsem v\u017edycky \u0159ek d\u011bdo, proto\u017ee udr\u017eet v jedn\u00fd ruce tu palici a v druh\u00fd ruce jako ten kl\u00edn si nasadit jako d\u00edt\u011b pro m\u011b bylo takov\u00fd t\u011b\u017ek\u00fd, tak jsem v\u017edycky \u0159ek: „D\u011bdo, jenom mi tam ten kl\u00edn jako zatlu\u010d, tro\u0161ku nasa\u010f a j\u00e1 u\u017e pak to do\u0161t\u00edpnu.“ Tak\u017ee i takov\u00e9to v\u011bci jsem d\u011blal.<\/p>\n

Vy d\u011bl\u00e1te \u010dinnosti, kter\u00e9 jsou riskantn\u00ed pro norm\u00e1ln\u011b vidom\u00e9 lidi. Seknul jste se n\u011bkdy?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0158\u00cdHA
\nNesek jsem se, j\u00e1 samoz\u0159ejm\u011b vlastn\u011b ne\u0161t\u00edpu jako n\u011bjak rychle nebo jako jin\u00fd lidi, ale prost\u011b mus\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk opatrn\u011b.<\/p>\n

Se So\u0148ou Hockou jsme mluvili o tom, \u017ee smyslem jejich kampan\u011b Chod\u00edc\u00ed lid\u00ed je krom\u011b jin\u00e9ho i to, aby se zm\u011bnilo vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch zdrav\u00fdch lid\u00ed sm\u011brem k handicapovan\u00fdm. Da\u0159\u00ed se to?<\/strong><\/p>\n

HOCK\u00c1,
\nTak podle pr\u016fzkum\u016f, kter\u00fd si d\u011bl\u00e1me, se to da\u0159\u00ed pomalu , ve\u0159ejnost je hodn\u011b velk\u00e1. Ale podle pr\u016fzkum\u016f, kter\u00fd si d\u011bl\u00e1me po ka\u017ed\u00fd kampani a te\u010f budeme chystat i dal\u0161\u00ed pr\u016fzkum, se zd\u00e1, \u017ee lidi skute\u010dn\u011b si uv\u011bdomuj\u00ed nebo m\u00e9n\u011b se boj\u00ed kontaktu s lidmi s posti\u017een\u00edm. Prost\u011b u\u017e to nen\u00ed takov\u00fd tabu, takov\u00fd t\u00e9ma, kter\u00fdho se je pot\u0159eba ob\u00e1vat. A v\u00edc v\u011bd\u00ed t\u0159eba, \u017ee nen\u00ed vhodn\u00e9 ukazovat za ka\u017edou cenu p\u0159esn\u011b soucit a \u017ee nen\u00ed vhodn\u00e9 jim t\u0159eba nevhodn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem pom\u00e1hat nebo prost\u011b za ka\u017edou cenu se sna\u017eit jim jakoby vstupovat do \u017eivota.<\/p>\n

Co si Sl\u00e1vka Hock\u00e1 myslela, kdy\u017e si t\u0159eba kdysi n\u011bkde p\u0159e\u010detla, \u017ee je tady horolezec, kter\u00fd nevid\u00ed a p\u0159itom sl\u00e9z\u00e1 jednu horu za druhou?<\/strong><\/p>\n

HOCK\u00c1,
\nJ\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed si pr\u00e1v\u011b v tu chv\u00edli mysl\u00ed to je p\u0159ece blbost, jak m\u016f\u017ee slepej \u010dlov\u011bk l\u00edzt. A to je vlastn\u011b pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u00e9ma t\u00fd kampan\u011b. My \u010dasto p\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1me, proto\u017ee sami si mysl\u00edme, \u017ee bysme to se zav\u00e1zan\u00fdma o\u010dima nedok\u00e1zali, p\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1me, \u017ee \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd je n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem posti\u017een\u00fd, to prost\u011b nedok\u00e1\u017ee. Ale velmi \u010dasto se m\u00fdl\u00edme. Tak\u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b proto na\u0161e kampa\u0148 m\u00e1 to svoje motto – Nedejte na prvn\u00ed dojem.<\/p>\n

Tady to je na Sl\u00e1vku takov\u00e1 sp\u00ed\u0161 jako oslavn\u00e1 v\u011bti\u010dka. „Byl jsem na p\u0159edstaven\u00ed La Putyka a b\u011bhal n\u00e1m mr\u00e1z po z\u00e1dech. Herec na voz\u00ed\u010dku byl \u00fa\u017easn\u00fd. V\u010dera ve\u010der b\u011b\u017eela reklama a oba s \u017eenou jsme ho hned poslali. Super,“ p\u00ed\u0161e poslucha\u010d.<\/strong><\/p>\n

HOCK\u00c1
\nTak te\u010f nev\u00edm, jak na to reagovat. M\u016f\u017eu \u0159\u00edct jenom d\u011bkuju, jsme r\u00e1di, \u017ee v\u00e1s to zaujalo, a douf\u00e1me, \u017ee d\u00e1te taky v \u017eivot\u011b \u0161anci pr\u00e1v\u011b n\u011bkomu s posti\u017een\u00edm t\u0159eba.<\/p>\n

Co si mysl\u00ed Jan \u0158\u00edha o takov\u00fdch akc\u00edch, jako jsou t\u0159eba Chod\u00edc\u00ed lid\u00e9?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0158\u00cdHA,
\nTak j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to dob\u0159e, aby vlastn\u011b lid\u00e9 okolo n\u00e1s vid\u011bli, jak \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd m\u00e1 handicap jak\u00fdkoli, m\u016f\u017ee d\u011blat prost\u011b v\u011bci, kter\u00fd d\u011blaj lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed handicap nemaj\u00ed. A je to jenom o tom , pokud m\u00e1te, \u017ee jo, n\u011bkoho ve sv\u00fdm okol\u00ed, kdo m\u00e1 n\u011bjakej handicap, vid\u00edte, \u017ee t\u0159eba nic ned\u011bl\u00e1, tak ho t\u0159eba oslovit a jestli by necht\u011bl s v\u00e1ma d\u011blat n\u011bjakej sport nebo n\u011bjakej jinej kon\u00ed\u010dek. J\u00e1 nev\u00edm, malov\u00e1n\u00ed nebo …, je toho spousta, cokoli. A mysl\u00edm si, zeptat se a zkusit to, jestli to jeho handicap umo\u017e\u0148uje. Ale mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee ten \u010dlov\u011bk bude i r\u00e1d, \u017ee bude vlastn\u011b v\u010dlen\u011bn do vlastn\u011b toho syst\u00e9mu mezi lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed nemaj\u00ed handicap.<\/p>\n

Na shledanou.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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