{"id":15918,"date":"2014-04-29T11:30:16","date_gmt":"2014-04-29T09:30:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=15918"},"modified":"2014-04-29T11:34:28","modified_gmt":"2014-04-29T09:34:28","slug":"nevidomy-tajemnik-velvyslanectvi-usa-mluvil-o-cesku-i-usa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=15918","title":{"rendered":"Nevidom\u00fd tajemn\u00edk velvyslanectv\u00ed USA mluvil o \u017eivot\u011b v \u010cesku i v USA"},"content":{"rendered":"

Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l si pov\u00eddal s prvn\u00edm tajemn\u00edkem americk\u00e9ho velvyslanectv\u00ed v Praze Alexandrem Barrassem, kter\u00fd je nevidom\u00fd, o tom, jak se ve sv\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci vyrovn\u00e1v\u00e1 se sv\u00fdm hendikepem, jak\u00e1 je situace nevidom\u00fdch v USA a o mnoh\u00e9m dal\u0161\u00edm….<\/strong> <\/p>\n

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My budeme spolu mluvit \u010desky. Vy jste v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice na postu prvn\u00edho tajemn\u00edka 8 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f. \u010ce\u0161tinu jste studoval 10 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f p\u0159ed odjezdem, jak t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 je nau\u010dit se n\u00e1\u0161 jazyk vzhledem k tomu, \u017ee mluv\u00edte p\u011bti dal\u0161\u00edmi sv\u011btov\u00fdmi jazyky.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alexander BARRASSO, 1. tajemn\u00edk americk\u00e9ho velvyslanectv\u00ed v Praze:
\nTak mysl\u00edm, \u017ee \u010desky je moc t\u011b\u017ek\u00fd jazyk. A bylo to poprv\u00e9, \u017ee jsem se u\u010dil jazyk, kter\u00fd je tak t\u011b\u017ek\u00fd, proto\u017ee m\u00e1 ty p\u00e1dy, kter\u00e9 pro Ameri\u010dany jsou… pro n\u00e1s je to moc, n\u011bco moc nov\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n

Alexi, vy jste nev\u011bdom\u00fd, jak se \u010dlov\u011bk u\u010d\u00ed jazyky, kdy\u017e nevid\u00ed, mus\u00ed m\u00edt u\u010ditele, m\u016f\u017ee se u\u010dit z audiop\u00e1sk\u016f nebo m\u00e1 t\u0159eba k dispozici i n\u011bjak\u00e9 Braillovo p\u00edsmo a slovn\u00edky.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Braillovo p\u00edsmo, slovn\u00edk nem\u00e1m, ale m\u016f\u017eu pou\u017e\u00edvat slovn\u00edky Internetem a jsou moc dobr\u00e9 slovn\u00edky tam, slovnik.cz pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1m \u010dasto nap\u0159\u00edklad. Ve t\u0159\u00edd\u011b poslouch\u00e1m, sly\u0161\u00edm v\u0161echno, co \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed u\u010ditelky, a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je v\u00fdhoda, \u017ee ned\u00edv\u00e1m se\u00a0 na tabuli, proto\u017ee kdy\u017e lid\u00e9 se d\u00edvaj\u00ed na tabuli, tak ob\u010das nesly\u0161\u00ed dob\u0159e, jak\u00fd je p\u0159\u00edzvuk, ale \u0159ekn\u011bme, \u017ee ten\u00a0 probl\u00e9m nem\u00e1m.<\/p>\n

U\u017e jsme mluvili o tom, jak se v\u00e1m za 18 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f poda\u0159ilo brilantn\u011b zvl\u00e1dnout \u010de\u0161tinu, ale j\u00e1 v\u00edm, \u017ee vy jste p\u0159ed t\u00edm v diplomatick\u00fdch slu\u017eb\u00e1ch pracoval v Kolumbii, v Singapuru, tak\u00e9 v brunejsk\u00e9m Sultan\u00e1tu. Tak kolika jazyky je\u0161t\u011b mluv\u00edte?<\/strong><\/p>\n

5 jazyk\u016f – \u010desky, n\u011bmecky, \u0161pan\u011blsky, italsky a thajsky.<\/p>\n

To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee a\u017e po \u010cesk\u00e9 republice p\u0159ijde n\u011bjak\u00e1 dal\u0161\u00ed destinace, tak bude dal\u0161\u00ed jazyk.<\/strong><\/p>\n

To je\u0161t\u011b nev\u00edm, je to mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee se vr\u00e1t\u00edme do USA, j\u00e1, abych pravdu \u0159ekl, nev\u00edm.<\/p>\n

Poj\u010fme se bavit o va\u0161\u00ed pr\u00e1ci, co vlastn\u011b obn\u00e1\u0161\u00ed takov\u00e1 pr\u00e1ce tajemn\u00edka na ambas\u00e1d\u011b Spojen\u00fdch st\u00e1t\u016f. J\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli to v\u00edte, ale jedin\u00ed \u010ce\u0161i, kte\u0159\u00ed se dostali do kreslen\u00e9ho seri\u00e1lu Simpsonovi, byly Ivana Trump, Mark\u00e9ta Irglov\u00e1 a na brank\u00e1\u0159e Petra \u010cecha teprve dojde. Jak dalece Ameri\u010dany zaj\u00edm\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho z \u010ceska?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tak mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ti t\u0159i \u010ce\u0161i, tak budou moc zn\u00e1m\u00ed v USA d\u00edky tomu, proto\u017ee hodn\u011b Ameri\u010dan\u016f se d\u00edv\u00e1 na ten po\u0159ad Simpsons, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee obvykle o \u010cesk\u00e9 republice si Ameri\u010dan\u00e9 mysl\u00ed … na pivo. A j\u00e1 osobn\u011b si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee\u00a0 historie zem\u011b je moc zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed, proto\u017ee tady ka\u017ed\u00e1 budova m\u00e1 svoji historii a nejen ambas\u00e1da, ale Kolovratsk\u00fd pal\u00e1c, Vald\u0161tejnsk\u00fd pal\u00e1c a tak d\u00e1le, a ka\u017ed\u00e1 budova je jin\u00e1 a maj\u00ed svou zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed historii.<\/p>\n

Vy ty budovy nevid\u00edte, proto\u017ee jste nevidom\u00fd, ale jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem vn\u00edm\u00e1te vlastn\u011b to prost\u0159ed\u00ed, ve kter\u00e9m se ocit\u00e1te, m\u00e1te i tajemn\u00edka, tedy asistenta, kter\u00fd s v\u00e1mi pracuje, on v\u00e1m je popisuje nebo to \u010dlov\u011bk vn\u00edm\u00e1 s\u00e1m?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano, on je popisuje a ob\u010das m\u016f\u017eu tak v t\u011bch budov\u00e1ch dotknout a to je pro m\u011b velk\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitek, proto\u017ee jsou star\u00e9 v\u011bci a moc se dob\u0159e d\u011bl\u00e1 a ob\u010das, \u010dasto takov\u00e9 v\u011bci nem\u016f\u017ee nikdo se dotknout, proto\u017ee to najdete v muzeu nebo n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n

je je\u0161t\u011b n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho, co Ameri\u010dany zaj\u00edm\u00e1 na \u010cesk\u00e9 republice.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee holky jsou moc zaj\u00edmav\u00fd pro Ameri\u010dany. A ve Spojen\u00fdch st\u00e1tech a v Kanad\u011b hraje hodn\u011b \u010cech\u016f hokej.<\/p>\n

Jak\u00fd dojem o \u010cesk\u00e9 republice jste si za t\u011bch 8 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f, co tady pracujete, stihl ud\u011blat vy s\u00e1m.<\/strong><\/p>\n

J\u00e1 osobn\u011b m\u00e1m, moc dobr\u00fd dojem, jak u\u017e jsem \u0159ekl, historie v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice, historie je pro m\u011b moc zaj\u00edmav\u00e9. A c\u00edt\u00edm se dob\u0159e, jako \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd bydl\u00ed v Praze, lid\u00e9 ob\u010das nejsou moc otev\u0159en\u00ed, ale mi pom\u00e1haj\u00ed ka\u017ed\u00fd den. A skoro ka\u017ed\u00fd nab\u00edz\u00ed pomoc v autobusu, nebo kdy\u017e chod\u00ed do metra, nebo na ulici.<\/p>\n

J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee \u010ce\u0161i se pomalu lep\u0161\u00ed ve vztahu k handicapovan\u00fdm lidem a douf\u00e1m, \u017ee se pomalu lep\u0161\u00ed ve vztahu k cizinc\u016fm. Vy vlastn\u011b s t\u00edmhle t\u00edm m\u016f\u017eete m\u00edt bohat\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti, jsou jenom dobr\u00e9?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tak mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v ka\u017ed\u00e9 zemi, jsou dobr\u00e9 a ob\u010das nedobr\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti, tak …Pro nevidom\u00e9, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je ta situace tady v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice dobr\u00e1, kdy\u017e to mus\u00edm srovnat k situaci v jin\u00fdch zem\u00edch, proto\u017ee nap\u0159\u00edklad tady je moc dobr\u00e1 hromadn\u00e1 doprava, a to v dal\u0161\u00edch zem\u00edch neexistuje. A tady st\u00e1t, vl\u00e1da vytvo\u0159\u00ed pracovn\u00ed m\u00edsta pro \u010cechy, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou nevidom\u00ed a to je taky moc dobr\u00e1.<\/p>\n

Alex je nevidom\u00fd, tak\u017ee je to jeden z n\u00e1stroj\u016f, kter\u00fd tak\u00e9 pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1. Co to je za stroj, m\u016f\u017eu si p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee m\u00e1te u ruky ve sv\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci n\u011bco jako m\u00e1m j\u00e1 laptop?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano, je to takov\u00fd, \u0159ekn\u011bme, tablet, ale jenom pro nevidom\u00e9. A m\u016f\u017eu napsat v\u0161echno Braillov\u00fdm p\u00edsmem a m\u016f\u017eu v\u0161echno tak\u00e9, co nap\u00ed\u0161u, m\u016f\u017eu \u010d\u00edst a to my moc pom\u016f\u017ee nap\u0159\u00edklad ve sch\u016fzk\u00e1ch, proto\u017ee m\u016f\u017eu v\u0161echno napsat a potom, co jsem napsal, m\u016f\u017eu pou\u017e\u00edvat, abych napsal zpr\u00e1vy do Washingtonu.<\/p>\n

Vy m\u00e1te je\u0161t\u011b asistenta, kter\u00fd s v\u00e1mi chod\u00ed na d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 jedn\u00e1n\u00ed, je pro diplomata, a te\u010f to, pros\u00edm, neberte \u0161patn\u011b, ale je to n\u011bkdo v\u00fdhoda, \u017ee \u010dlov\u011bk nevid\u00ed, \u017ee sly\u0161\u00ed t\u0159eba daleko v\u00edc z toho charakteru toho \u010dlov\u011bka, ne\u017e kdyby vid\u011bl?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ob\u010das je to, je to pravda, proto\u017ee kdy\u017e vid\u00edte, nepozorujete, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 ten dal\u0161\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk, ale d\u00edv\u00e1te se na o\u010di a …Na mimiku. ale j\u00e1 poslouch\u00e1m, j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ty dv\u011b v\u011bci jsou d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 a j\u00e1 poslouch\u00e1m a asistent potom mi m\u016f\u017ee \u0159\u00edct, nap\u0159\u00edklad, jak reagoval ten \u010dlov\u011bk na to, co jsem \u0159ekl. A d\u00edky tomu m\u016f\u017eu tomu dob\u0159e rozum\u011bt, jak to bylo.<\/p>\n

Nezaraz\u00ed to n\u011bkoho, kdy\u017e p\u0159ijdete t\u0159eba na sch\u016fzku se sv\u00fdm asistentem, vlastn\u011b ve dvou lidech? Jestli, jestli to pro n\u011bkoho nen\u00ed p\u0159ekvapen\u00ed t\u0159eba?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ne, proto\u017ee to \u0159\u00edk\u00e1me st\u00e1le, \u017ee budu s asistentem. A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to nen\u00ed p\u0159ekvapen\u00ed pro lidi .<\/p>\n

To \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd se sv\u00fdm tras\u00e9rem vyb\u011bhne tak\u00e9 do Stromovky na no\u010dn\u00ed B\u011bh pro Sv\u011btlu\u0161ku. Jak dobr\u00fd jste b\u011b\u017eec, Alexi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J\u00e1 pravideln\u011b neb\u011bh\u00e1m, ale to ud\u011bl\u00e1m z\u00edtra, proto\u017ee mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to je dobr\u00e1 mo\u017enost, abych podpo\u0159il nadaci \u010cesk\u00e9ho rozhlasu a tak\u00e9, abych pom\u00e1hal organizac\u00edm pro nevidom\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Jak to je s podobn\u00fdmi organizacemi ve Spojen\u00fdch st\u00e1tech americk\u00fdch,<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ano, je\u00a0 funguje moc podobn\u011b. A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v t\u011bch zem\u00edch v USA, tak\u00e9 v \u010cesku, jsou velk\u00e9 a dobr\u00e9 charity. A \u017ee v obou zem\u00edch jsou spole\u010dnosti, kter\u00e9 se v\u011bnuj\u00ed a kter\u00e9 podpo\u0159\u00ed charity.<\/p>\n

Jak moc dop\u0159edu se \u010dlov\u011bk mus\u00ed, a\u0165 u\u017e je to \u010cesk\u00e1 republika nebo brunejsk\u00fd Sultan\u00e1t, p\u0159ipravovat na tamn\u00ed zvyky, zvyklosti a mentalitu, ne\u017e tam p\u0159ijede?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee tak lid\u00e9, lid\u00e9 v Borneu jsou moc, moc otev\u0159en\u00ed. Ta …, je tam asi 400 tis\u00edc obyvatel, moc mal\u00e1 zem\u011b. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee \u017eivot tam je moc jin\u00fd, proto\u017ee tady v Praze v\u0161ichni d\u011bl\u00e1me v\u0161echno rychle, ale v Borneu je to moc jinak, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee \u010das tam nen\u00ed d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 v\u011bc.<\/p>\n

A je to stresuj\u00edc\u00ed, kdy\u017e \u010dlov\u011bk je zvykl\u00fd \u017e\u00edt v jin\u00e9m syst\u00e9mu a v jin\u00e9m \u010dasu a najednou to, co se d\u00e1 vy\u0159\u00eddit za jeden den, trv\u00e1 t\u00fdden nebo v\u00edc?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano. N\u011bkolikr\u00e1t na ambas\u00e1d\u011b o\u010dek\u00e1vali jsme, \u017ee n\u011bco tam m\u016f\u017eeme rychle d\u011blat, ale to trv\u00e1 \u010das, ob\u010das je to, nev\u00edm, den p\u0159ed velkou sch\u016fzkou a je\u0161t\u011b v\u0161echno nen\u00ed hotovo.Tady v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho se ned\u011bje.<\/p>\n

ta rychlost mezi \u010ceskou republikou a Spojen\u00fdmi st\u00e1ty v t\u00e9 akci bude zhruba stejn\u00e1?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ano, zhruba stejn\u00e1, proto\u017ee v \u010cesku a tak\u00e9 v USA, nap\u0159\u00edklad v New Yorku, kde jsem se narodil, nebo ve Washingtonu, kde pracuji, tak mus\u00ed v\u0161echno rychle, mus\u00edme v\u0161echno rychle d\u011blat. A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee rychlost je zhruba stejn\u00e1, ano.<\/p>\n

Tak poj\u010fme na ot\u00e1zku. „Moc m\u011b zaj\u00edm\u00e1, jak se pan tajemn\u00edk k t\u00e9to pr\u00e1ci dostal, kdy\u017e je nevidom\u00fd. Je to v Americe tak snadn\u00e9 a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b mus\u00edm pochv\u00e1lit jeho \u010de\u0161tinu.“<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano. V\u0161ichni, kte\u0159\u00ed cht\u011bj\u00ed tu pr\u00e1ci, mus\u00edme napsat zkou\u0161ky a to, to jsem tak\u00e9 ud\u011blal, ale ur\u010dit\u011b to, to jsem ud\u011blal Braillov\u00fdm p\u00edsmem. A tak\u00e9 m\u00e1me moc dobr\u00fd z\u00e1kon v USA, kter\u00fd umo\u017e\u0148uje to, aby nevidom\u00ed dostali takovou pr\u00e1ci. A podle toho z\u00e1kona, kdy\u017e je nap\u0159\u00edklad jeden nevidom\u00fd a maj\u00ed stejn\u00e9 kvalifikace, ta firma mus\u00ed d\u00e1t pr\u00e1ci tomu nevidom\u00e9mu.<\/p>\n

To znamen\u00e1 ten, kdo je handicapovan\u00fd, i kdy\u017e m\u00e1 stejnou kvalifikaci, dostane p\u0159ednost p\u0159ed t\u00edm, kdo t\u0159eba vid\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ano, a to plat\u00ed i v priv\u00e1tn\u00edm sektoru, ale ur\u010dit\u011b je to jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed ve vl\u00e1d\u011b, ne\u017e v priv\u00e1tn\u00edm sektoru.<\/p>\n

A t\u011b\u0161\u00edm se, \u017ee se z\u00edtra uvid\u00edme na startu B\u011bhu pro Sv\u011btlu\u0161ku. A\u0165 se v\u00e1m da\u0159\u00ed, Alexi, d\u011bkuji v\u00e1m.<\/strong><\/p>\n

redak\u010dn\u011b kr\u00e1ceno<\/p>\n

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