{"id":16301,"date":"2014-05-28T13:07:49","date_gmt":"2014-05-28T11:07:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=16301"},"modified":"2014-05-29T09:04:15","modified_gmt":"2014-05-29T07:04:15","slug":"sdruzeni-postizenych-porada-zajezdy-to-nesmite-varuji-urednici","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=16301","title":{"rendered":"Sdru\u017een\u00ed posti\u017een\u00fdch po\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1 z\u00e1jezdy. To nesm\u00edte, varuj\u00ed \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci"},"content":{"rendered":"

Z\u00e1jmov\u00e1 sdru\u017een\u00ed a neziskov\u00e9 organizace po\u0159\u00e1daj\u00ed rekondi\u010dn\u00ed pobyty a z\u00e1jezdy. Proti tomu je v\u0161ak te\u010f \u017divnostensk\u00fd \u00fa\u0159ad v Prachatic\u00edch a cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e. Zdravotn\u011b posti\u017een\u00ed se br\u00e1n\u00ed…<\/strong><\/p>\n

report\u00e1\u017e – \u010cesk\u00fd rozhlas<\/strong><\/p>\n

Pokud z\u00e1jmov\u00e1 sdru\u017een\u00ed a neziskov\u00e9 organizace<\/strong> cht\u011bj\u00ed uspo\u0159\u00e1dat z\u00e1jezd nejen pro sv\u00e9 \u010dleny, mus\u00ed m\u00edt podle \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk\u016f \u017eivnostensk\u00e9 opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00ed. Hana Rabenhauptov\u00e1 za zdravotn\u011b<\/span> posti\u017een\u00e9<\/span> v\u0161ak takov\u00fd v\u00fdklad z\u00e1kon\u016f odm\u00edt\u00e1.<\/p>\n

Hana RABENHAUPTOV\u00c1, z\u00e1stupce zdravotn\u011b<\/span> posti\u017een\u00fdch<\/span>:
\nMy, kdy\u017e organizujeme cestu nebo pobyt se zdravotn\u011b<\/span> posti\u017een\u00fdmi<\/span>, pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed bu\u010f osobn\u00edho asistenta a nebo pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed dobrovoln\u00edka, to nejsou na\u0161i \u010dlenov\u00e9. Ur\u010dit\u011b nen\u00ed na\u0161\u00edm c\u00edlem zv\u011bt\u0161ovat \u010dlenskou z\u00e1kladnu o v\u0161echny lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed n\u00e1m ve sv\u00e9m voln\u00e9m \u010dase v dobr\u00e9 v\u016fli pom\u00e1haj\u00ed.<\/p>\n

podnikatel\u016fm a \u017eivnostensk\u00e9mu \u00fa\u0159adu v Prachatic\u00edch se nel\u00edb\u00ed, \u017ee nap\u0159\u00edklad senio\u0159i nebo turist\u00e9 si sami po\u0159\u00e1daj\u00ed z\u00e1jezdy, pr\u00fd je to poru\u0161en\u00ed z\u00e1kona. Z\u00e1jmov\u00e1 sdru\u017een\u00ed se br\u00e1n\u00ed. A od organizov\u00e1n\u00ed pobyt\u016f nehodlaj\u00ed ustoupit. V\u00edce u\u017e o tomto sporu report\u00e9r \u010cRo v po\u0159adu Bez obalu.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Lenka SKUHRAV\u00c1, spolumajitelka cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e:
\nZ\u00e1kon o cestovn\u00edm ruchu jasn\u011b hovo\u0159\u00ed o tom a vymezuje, co z\u00e1jezdem je. A co z\u00e1jezdem nen\u00ed. A pokud se jedn\u00e1 o z\u00e1jezd o kombinaci slu\u017eeb jako takov\u00fd, tak je pot\u0159eba na to m\u00edt opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00ed, a to opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00ed vlastn\u00ed cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159 jako takov\u00e1, ani cestovn\u00ed agentura nen\u00ed opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00e1 t\u0159eba po\u0159\u00e1dat v\u00edcedenn\u00ed z\u00e1jezdy.<\/p>\n

Jiho\u010desk\u00e9 centrum pro zdravotn\u011b<\/span> posti\u017een\u00e9<\/span> a seniory br\u00e1n\u00ed jeho \u0159editelka Hana Vlas\u00e1kov\u00e1.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hana VLAS\u00c1KOV\u00c1,
\nJsme registrovan\u00fd poskytoval soci\u00e1ln\u00edch slu\u017eeb. Tyhle ty \u010dinnosti jakoby jsou exkurzy, ozdravn\u00fd pobyty poskytujeme v r\u00e1mci z\u00e1kona o soci\u00e1ln\u00edch slu\u017eb\u00e1ch v \u010dinnosti soci\u00e1ln\u00ed aktiviza\u010dn\u00ed slu\u017eba. Kdy\u017e to vezmu i selsk\u00fdm rozumem, podle \u017eivnostensk\u00e9ho z\u00e1kona nen\u00ed poskytov\u00e1n\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00edch slu\u017eeb vlastn\u011b \u017eivnostn\u00edk. Vzhledem k tomu, \u017ee je to jednor\u00e1zov\u00e1 \u010dinnost, v\u011bt\u0161inou, jedna akce za rok nebo jakoby dv\u011b, a vzhledem k tomu, \u017ee nikdy nem\u00e1me, tak sp\u00ed\u0161 na to dopl\u00e1c\u00edme, tak prost\u011b nespad\u00e1 do re\u017eimu \u017eivnostensk\u00e9ho z\u00e1kona.<\/p>\n

\u017divnostensk\u00fd \u00fa\u0159ad Prachatice kv\u016fli spor\u016fm pozval z\u00e1stupce spolku na jedn\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ilja PINTER, vedouc\u00ed \u017eivnostensk\u00e9ho \u00fa\u0159adu:
\nNov\u00fd ob\u010dansk\u00fd z\u00e1kon\u00edk jasn\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee hlavn\u00ed \u010dinnosti spolku m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jen uspokojov\u00e1n\u00ed a ochrana t\u011bch z\u00e1jm\u016f, k jejich\u017e napl\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed je spolek zalo\u017een. Nikde nen\u00ed \u0159e\u010deno, \u017ee spolek by m\u011bl m\u00edt svoj\u00ed hlavn\u00ed \u010dinnost jako podnik\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Ilja PINTER,:
\nSpolky ano, pro sv\u00e9 \u010dleny mohou zorganizovat n\u011bjak\u00e9 z\u00e1jezdy, nicm\u00e9n\u011b pouze pro \u010dleny a nesm\u00ed to b\u00fdt \u010dinnost, kter\u00e1 je organizov\u00e1na za \u00fa\u010delem zisku. V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, \u017ee jak\u00fdkoliv spolek zorganizuje z\u00e1jezd pro ve\u0159ejnost a napln\u00ed v\u0161echny znaky \u017eivnosti, to znamen\u00e1, soustavn\u011b samostatn\u011b, vlastn\u00edm jm\u00e9nem, na vlastn\u00ed odpov\u011bdnost za \u00fa\u010delem dosa\u017een\u00ed zisku, tak by m\u011bl m\u00edt na to ka\u017ed\u00fd spolek \u017eivnostensk\u00e9 opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00ed. M\u00e1-li kombinaci t\u011bch slu\u017eeb na ubytov\u00e1n\u00ed a na dopravu, tak by m\u011bl m\u00edt de facto koncesi na cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159.<\/p>\n

O koncesi rozhodn\u011b nebudou \u017e\u00e1dat zdravotn\u011b<\/span> posti\u017een\u00ed<\/span>. Uvedla Hana Rabenhauptov\u00e1.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hana RABENHAUPTOV\u00c1, :
\nV \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, proto\u017ee my, kdy\u017e organizujeme t\u0159eba n\u011bjakou cestu nebo pobyt se zdravotn\u011b<\/span> posti\u017een\u00fdmi<\/span>, d\u011btmi nebo mlad\u00fdmi lidmi nebo i seniory, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou na voz\u00edku, jsou ment\u00e1ln\u011b posti\u017een\u00ed<\/span>, maj\u00ed t\u0159eba Alzheimerovu chorobu, ti v\u0161ichni pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed, bu\u010f osobn\u00edho asistenta, anebo pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed dobrovoln\u00edka. To nejsou na\u0161i \u010dlenov\u00e9, to je vlastn\u011b „ve\u0159ejnost“, anebo kdy\u017e nese\u017eeneme na tu danou akci, tak mus\u00edme po\u017e\u00e1dat i rodinn\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edslu\u0161n\u00edky a to je tak\u00e9 ve\u0159ejnost. Tak\u017ee v tom p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b my mus\u00edme tu ve\u0159ejnost br\u00e1t a nev\u00edm, jak by potom cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e nebo agentury n\u00e1m tohle zaji\u0161\u0165ovaly, jestli budou m\u00edt i servis dobrovolnick\u00fdch center, nebo jestli budou z\u0159izovat osobn\u00ed asistence pro tyhle c\u00edlov\u00e9 skupiny. Ur\u010dit\u011b nen\u00ed na\u0161\u00edm c\u00edlem zv\u011bt\u0161ovat \u010dlenskou z\u00e1kladnu, v\u0161echny lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed n\u00e1m ve sv\u00e9m voln\u00e9m \u010dase v dobr\u00e9 v\u016fli pom\u00e1haj\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Na v\u00fdklad z\u00e1kona pouk\u00e1zala Alena B\u00ednov\u00e1, kter\u00e1 dlouh\u00e1 l\u00e9ta p\u0159ipravuje pobyty pro t\u011blesn\u011b posti\u017een\u00e9<\/span> a seniory.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alena B\u00cdNOV\u00c1, :
\nMy to m\u00e1me ve stanov\u00e1ch, na\u0161e z\u00e1jezdy jsou wellness, to jsou prost\u011b nau\u010dn\u00fd pobyty, no. P\u0159edali jsme to k vy\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed pr\u00e1vn\u00edk\u016fm do Prahy, no. M\u00e1me i vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed z refer\u00e1tu ministerstva obchodu, \u017ee tyhle ty slu\u017eby nepodl\u00e9haj\u00ed \u017eivnostensk\u00e9mu z\u00e1konu, co\u017e si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je jako sm\u011brodatn\u00fd.<\/p>\n

O zisku ze z\u00e1jezdu nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt podle Aleny B\u00ednov\u00e9 \u0159e\u010d.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alena B\u00cdNOV\u00c1, :
\nU\u017e se x-kr\u00e1t stalo, \u017ee jsem t\u0159eba to dopl\u00e1cela i sama, proto\u017ee nem\u00e1m sil jako, kdy\u017e vid\u00edm, \u017ee mi bude chyb\u011bt, t\u0159eba by\u0165 by to bylo 20 korun, 30 korun na osobu, abych obch\u00e1zela v autobuse, 30 lid\u00ed to d\u00e1 bez \u0159e\u010d\u00ed a 2 to okomentuj\u00ed, a to nem\u00e1m r\u00e1da.<\/p>\n

Cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e kv\u016fli k\u0161eft\u016fm cht\u011bj\u00ed, aby z\u00e1jmov\u00e9 skupiny jezdily s nimi, d\u00e1l nam\u00edtaj\u00ed z\u00e1stupci prachatick\u00fdch sdru\u017een\u00ed. Podnikatel\u00e9 v cestovn\u00edm ruchu opakuj\u00ed, \u017ee jim jde jen o dodr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed pravidel.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Lenka SKUHRAV\u00c1, spolumajitelka cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e:
\nZe z\u00e1kona v\u0161echny cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e musej\u00ed b\u00fdt poji\u0161t\u011bny, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee ro\u010dn\u011b vynakl\u00e1daj\u00ed nemal\u00e9 deseti, statis\u00edcov\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1stky na poji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed sv\u00e9 \u010dinnosti, to je jedna v\u011bc. A dal\u0161\u00ed v\u011bc\u00ed je ta, \u017ee musej\u00ed m\u00edt i slo\u017eenou finan\u010dn\u00ed jistinu, kter\u00e1 se rovn\u00e1 t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 v\u00fd\u0161i toho pojistn\u00e9ho. Pak jde o dal\u0161\u00ed poji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed, a to je poji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed zodpov\u011bdnosti v\u0161ech t\u011bch klient\u016f, kdyby se komukoliv cokoliv stalo p\u0159i tom z\u00e1jezdu, tak vlastn\u011b ten po\u0159adatel z\u00e1jezdu za to zodpov\u00edd\u00e1, tak je pot\u0159eba, kdy\u017e si n\u011bkdo do n\u011b\u010deho takov\u00e9ho pust\u00ed, aby si tyhle v\u011bci uv\u011bdomil, \u017ee ze z\u00e1kona m\u00e1me dan\u00e1 ur\u010dit\u00e1 pravidla a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee se z\u00e1kony tvo\u0159\u00ed podle toho, aby je v\u0161ichni dodr\u017eovali.<\/p>\n

Argumentaci Lenky Skuhrav\u00e9 doplnil Miloslav Martan a za cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159 vyrukoval s podez\u0159en\u00edm na da\u0148ov\u00e9 \u00faniky.<\/p>\n

Miloslav MARTAN, :
\nJedn\u00e1 se o obratov\u00e9 dan\u011b, kter\u00e9 se plat\u00ed za ujet\u00e9 kilometry na \u00fazem\u00ed N\u011bmecka a Rakouska. A spousty spolk\u016f a snad i dopravc\u016f bohu\u017eel v\u016fbec netu\u0161\u00ed, \u017ee tyhle obratov\u00e9 dan\u011b se mus\u00ed platit, pak doch\u00e1z\u00ed k tomu zp\u011btn\u00e9mu vym\u00e1h\u00e1n\u00ed, kter\u00fd tady je. Tak\u017ee pokud nem\u00e1te zaji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed ani obratov\u00fd dan\u011b, tak v\u016fbec nen\u00ed mo\u017enost vyrazit autobusem do zahrani\u010d\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Ob\u011b strany sporu se oh\u00e1n\u011bj\u00ed v\u00fdklady pr\u00e1vn\u00edk\u016f. Kdo m\u00e1 navrch, se v podobn\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edpadech uk\u00e1zalo a\u017e po rozhodnut\u00ed soudu.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

report\u00e1\u017e – \u010cesk\u00fd rozhlas<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Z\u00e1jmov\u00e1 sdru\u017een\u00ed a neziskov\u00e9 organizace po\u0159\u00e1daj\u00ed rekondi\u010dn\u00ed pobyty a z\u00e1jezdy. Proti tomu je v\u0161ak te\u010f \u017divnostensk\u00fd \u00fa\u0159ad v Prachatic\u00edch a cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159e. Zdravotn\u011b posti\u017een\u00ed se […]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":7087,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16301","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-spolecnost"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16301","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=16301"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16301\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/7087"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=16301"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=16301"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=16301"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}