{"id":22897,"date":"2015-09-30T10:35:51","date_gmt":"2015-09-30T08:35:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=22897"},"modified":"2015-09-30T10:35:51","modified_gmt":"2015-09-30T08:35:51","slug":"klara-horakova-lide-by-se-meli-naucit-naslouchat-sve-dusi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=22897","title":{"rendered":"Kl\u00e1ra Hor\u00e1kov\u00e1: Lid\u00e9 by se m\u011bli nau\u010dit naslouchat sv\u00e9 du\u0161i"},"content":{"rendered":"

U\u017e tento p\u00e1tek za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 p\u011btidenn\u00ed festival Dny pro du\u0161evn\u00ed zdrav\u00ed v Plzni. Kl\u00e1ra Hor\u00e1kov\u00e1 v rozhovoru pro Den\u00edk popisuje nejen samotnou akci s podtitulem ‚V\u017edy\u0165 bl\u00e1znit je lidsk\u00e9‘, ale tak\u00e9 pohled ve\u0159ejnosti na lidi s du\u0161evn\u00ed nemoci.<\/strong> <\/p>\n

– Jak byste festival shrnula?<\/p>\n

V Plzni u\u017e se kon\u00e1 25. ro\u010dn\u00edk, prvn\u00ed prob\u011bhl v roce 1991 v Dob\u0159anech, co\u017e bylo takov\u00e9 porevolu\u010dn\u00ed zjeven\u00ed. Nav\u0161t\u00edvili n\u00e1s perform\u00e1to\u0159i ze San Franciska, kte\u0159\u00ed naz\u00ed jezdili skluzavkami na uhl\u00ed v are\u00e1lu l\u00e9\u010debny nebo \u0161plhali po zdech plze\u0148sk\u00e9 radnice. Dnes se do Dob\u0159an m\u016f\u017ee pod\u00edvat kdokoli a i pacienti maj\u00ed voln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed re\u017eim. Za komunismu ale byla l\u00e9\u010debna v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b uzav\u0159en\u00e1, tak\u017ee to bylo opravdu n\u011bco nov\u00e9ho. Leto\u0161n\u00ed ro\u010dn\u00edk na tuto tradici navazuje, by\u0165 se na\u0161t\u011bst\u00ed za 25 let u\u017e hodn\u011b zm\u011bnilo. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b prob\u00edh\u00e1 velk\u00e1 reforma psychiatrie, mimo jin\u00e9 se \u0159e\u0161\u00ed, pro koho m\u00e1 smysl pobyt v l\u00e9\u010debn\u011b, jak by m\u011bla takov\u00e1 l\u00e9\u010dba nejl\u00e9pe vypadat a kdy lze situaci \u0159e\u0161it pomoc\u00ed denn\u00edho stacion\u00e1\u0159e, psychoterapie \u010di komunitn\u00edho centra.<\/p>\n

– Co je jeho c\u00edlem?<\/p>\n

Pomoci destigmatizovat du\u0161evn\u011b nemocn\u00e9 \u010di hendikepovan\u00e9 a celkov\u011b zm\u00edrnit negativn\u00ed postoje k jinakosti, bourat bari\u00e9ry mezi um\u011ble odd\u011blen\u00fdmi sv\u011bty. A to formou, kter\u00e1 bude bavit a zaj\u00edmat jak odbornou, tak laickou ve\u0159ejnost.<\/p>\n

– \u010c\u00edm to je, \u017ee ve\u0159ejnost d\u00e1v\u00e1 du\u0161evn\u011b nemocn\u00fdm lidem takov\u00e9 stigma a dr\u017e\u00ed si od nich odstup?<\/p>\n

Je to trochu \u010desk\u00e9 specifikum. Podle v\u00fdzkum\u016f jsme na tom mnohem h\u016f\u0159e ne\u017e vysp\u011bl\u00e9 evropsk\u00e9 zem\u011b. Nap\u0159\u00edklad v Anglii by nevadilo 56 procent\u016fm dot\u00e1zan\u00fdch \u017e\u00edt s \u010dlov\u011bkem s psychick\u00fdm onemocn\u011bn\u00edm, v \u010cesku by to nevadilo jen 15 procent\u016fm lid\u00ed. P\u0159itom s ur\u010ditou formou psychick\u00e9ho onemocn\u011bn\u00ed se potk\u00e1 za \u017eivot velk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed z n\u00e1s. T\u0159eba ka\u017ed\u00fd des\u00e1t\u00fd \u010cech trp\u00ed depres\u00ed, to je asi milion lid\u00ed. V p\u0159\u00edstupu \u010cech\u016f k du\u0161evn\u011b nemocn\u00fdm hraje podle m\u00e9ho velkou roli neznalost. Snad i d\u00edky akc\u00edm, jako jsou Dny pro du\u0161evn\u00ed zdrav\u00ed, bude pomalu tolerance a hlavn\u011b pochopen\u00ed spole\u010dnosti nar\u016fstat. Nejsou to dva sv\u011bty, kter\u00e9 na sebe nar\u00e1\u017eej\u00ed, ale je to jeden sv\u011bt n\u00e1s v\u0161ech.<\/p>\n

– Jak byste zhodnotila pokrok psychiatrick\u00e9 p\u00e9\u010de za 25 let?<\/p>\n

V psychiatrick\u00fdch nemocnic\u00edch se toho zm\u011bnilo celkem dost a dle pl\u00e1novan\u00e9 reformy se je\u0161t\u011b hodn\u011b zm\u011bn\u00ed: \u00fastavy se otv\u00edraj\u00ed v\u00edce ven, m\u011bn\u00ed se p\u0159\u00edstup k psychoterapii, zach\u00e1zen\u00ed s l\u00e9ky, zp\u016fsob tr\u00e1ven\u00ed voln\u00e9ho \u010dasu pacient\u016f atd. Tak\u00e9 vzniklo spoustu organizac\u00ed, kter\u00e9 se zab\u00fdvaj\u00ed ambulantn\u00ed a komunitn\u00ed l\u00e9\u010dbou. Kdy\u017e v\u00e1m nen\u00ed psychicky dob\u0159e, nemus\u00edte j\u00edt do nemocnice za doktorem v b\u00edl\u00e9m pl\u00e1\u0161ti. Existuje spousta center, kam lze \u00fapln\u011b civiln\u011b zaj\u00edt a s n\u011bk\u00fdm probrat sv\u00e9 starosti a probl\u00e9my, nutn\u011b to ani nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt psychiatr \u010di psycholog. D\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je pracovat i na informovanosti ve\u0159ejnosti. Proto\u017ee m\u00edt psychick\u00e9 probl\u00e9my nen\u00ed \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 ostuda a \u0159e\u0161it to je stejn\u011b norm\u00e1ln\u00ed jako \u0159e\u0161it ch\u0159ipku.<\/p>\n

– Jak \u010dlov\u011bk pozn\u00e1, \u017ee u\u017e na to nesta\u010d\u00ed s\u00e1m a m\u011bl by zaj\u00edt za odborn\u00edky?<\/p>\n

D\u00e1 se pou\u017e\u00edt metafora s autem. Kdy\u017e sly\u0161\u00edte, \u017ee v\u00e1m klepe kolo, asi s t\u00edm nebudete jezdit 180 km\/h po d\u00e1lnici a zajedete do servisu. A nebudete se zdr\u00e1hat sv\u011b\u0159it se sv\u00fdm kamar\u00e1d\u016fm, \u017ee jste v servisu byli. Bohu\u017eel je st\u00e1le \u010dast\u00e9, \u017ee i kdy\u017e mi nen\u00ed dob\u0159e nebo mi m\u016fj psychick\u00fd stav n\u011bjak naru\u0161uje \u017eivot, n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvu odborn\u00edka odkl\u00e1d\u00e1m, sna\u017e\u00edm se to pop\u00edrat, nevid\u011bt. Nikam nejdu pr\u00e1v\u011b proto, \u017ee se ob\u00e1v\u00e1m pomluv. P\u0159itom to hanba nen\u00ed, du\u0161evn\u00ed nemoc je nemoc jako ka\u017ed\u00e1 jin\u00e1. Je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, aby lid\u00e9 um\u011bli naslouchat nejen sv\u00fdm klepaj\u00edc\u00edm kol\u016fm nebo t\u0159eba bolesti v krku, ale i sv\u00e9 du\u0161i. Ka\u017ed\u00fd s\u00e1m c\u00edt\u00ed, \u017ee se mu ne\u017eije dob\u0159e, n\u011bco ho brzd\u00ed, omezuje v pr\u00e1ci nebo ve vztaz\u00edch. Sta\u010d\u00ed, \u017ee m\u00e1te hodn\u011b n\u00edzk\u00e9 sebev\u011bdom\u00ed, nem\u016f\u017eete sp\u00e1t, tr\u00e1p\u00ed v\u00e1s \u00fazkosti nebo z\u00e1chvaty vzteku, nedok\u00e1\u017eete zpracovat z\u00e1rmutek, n\u011bkter\u00e9 v\u011bci se vymykaj\u00ed kontrole\u2026 Je mnohem snaz\u0161\u00ed se t\u011bchto obt\u00ed\u017e\u00ed zbavit, ne\u017e se jimi v tichosti u\u017e\u00edrat.<\/p>\n

– Pohledu na du\u0161evn\u011b nemocn\u00e9 neprosp\u00edvaj\u00ed p\u0159\u00edpady podobn\u00e9 tomu z leto\u0161n\u00edho ledna, kdy pacient z Psychiatrick\u00e9 nemocnice v Dob\u0159anech zavra\u017edil knihovnici v Horn\u00ed B\u0159\u00edze\u2026<\/p>\n

To je jedno z t\u00e9mat festivalu, proto\u017ee se o tom hodn\u011b mluv\u00ed. Mluv\u00ed se o tom, \u017ee m\u011bl doty\u010dn\u00fd schizofrenii a byl agresivn\u00ed, ale u\u017e ne o tom, kolik lid\u00ed bez schizofrenie nebo ‚psychicky zdrav\u00fdch‘ n\u011bkoho zavra\u017ed\u00ed nebo je agresivn\u00edch. Nav\u00edc pr\u00e1v\u011b lid\u00e9 s t\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed diagn\u00f3zou jsou v\u011bt\u0161inou hospitalizov\u00e1ni a pod dohledem. Procento agresivn\u00edch lid\u00ed s psychickou poruchou nen\u00ed nijak vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e v b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 populaci. Ka\u017ed\u00e9mu m\u016f\u017ee lidov\u011b \u0159e\u010deno ‚rupnout v kouli‘, jde pr\u00e1v\u011b o to nau\u010dit se s agresivn\u00edmi pocity zach\u00e1zet, nenechat si p\u0159er\u016fst sv\u00e9 probl\u00e9my p\u0159es hlavu. A p\u0159\u00edpadnou du\u0161evn\u00ed nemoc spr\u00e1vn\u011b stabilizovat.<\/p>\n

– Vra\u0165me se zp\u011bt k festivalu. Co n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvn\u00edky \u010dek\u00e1?<\/p>\n

R\u00e1di bychom, kdyby se p\u0159i\u0161li pod\u00edvat v\u0161ichni, tedy i ti, kte\u0159\u00ed o t\u00e9matu du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed zat\u00edm nic moc nev\u011bd\u00ed. V p\u00e1tek je zah\u00e1jen\u00ed na p\u011b\u0161\u00ed z\u00f3n\u011b u Branky a sp\u00ed\u0161e takov\u00fd kulturn\u00ed program se slam poetry, koncertem \u010di divadlem. V sobotu se konaj\u00ed workshopy na r\u016fzn\u00e1 t\u00e9mata a tak\u00e9 vernis\u00e1\u017e schizofrenn\u00edho mal\u00ed\u0159e Ji\u0159\u00edho Kohouta. Lze si vyzkou\u0161et muzikoterapii, vysv\u011btlit sv\u00e9 sny \u2013 ne zp\u016fsobem, co znamen\u00e1 vid\u011bt ve snu r\u016f\u017eovou kachnu, ale co se n\u00e1m prost\u0159ednictv\u00edm sn\u016f sna\u017e\u00ed sd\u011blovat podv\u011bdom\u00ed, nau\u010dit se zvl\u00e1dat stres, relaxovat za zvuku bubn\u016f nebo si t\u0159eba vyzkou\u0161et psychoterapii v praxi. A samoz\u0159ejm\u011b budou i dal\u0161\u00ed divadla, filmy a koncerty, vystoup\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad Petr V\u00e1\u0161a nebo Vra\u017eda kr\u00e1sy.<\/p>\n

– Tak\u017ee to bude prob\u00edhat sp\u00ed\u0161e prakticky ne\u017e teoreticky?<\/p>\n

Ano, v\u0161echny workshopy jsou z\u00e1\u017eitkov\u00e9 a p\u0159izp\u016fsobuj\u00ed se konkr\u00e9tn\u00edm lidem, nejde o p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ky. V ned\u011bli jsou workshopy zam\u011b\u0159en\u00e9 sp\u00ed\u0161e na rodi\u010de a d\u011bti \u2013 nap\u0159\u00edklad o poruch\u00e1ch p\u0159\u00edjmu potravy, o ADHD neboli sn\u00ed\u017een\u00e9 schopnosti soust\u0159ed\u011bn\u00ed nebo o zach\u00e1zen\u00ed s d\u011btskou agres\u00ed. D\u011bti se zase pobav\u00ed na dramatick\u00e9m worskshopu, v kin\u011b nebo si zahraj\u00ed se \u017eongl\u00e9ry. Bude i v\u00fdstava d\u011btsk\u00fdch kreseb s n\u00e1zvem Obraz du\u0161e.<\/p>\n

– Kde se festival odehr\u00e1v\u00e1?<\/p>\n

Celkem na p\u011bti m\u00edstech. Hlavn\u00ed sc\u00e9nou je Moving Station neboli nov\u011b opraven\u00e1 budova Ji\u017en\u00edho n\u00e1dra\u017e\u00ed. P\u00e1te\u010dn\u00ed zah\u00e1jen\u00ed prob\u011bhne u Branky, kde bude p\u0159istaveno i s\u00ed\u0165ov\u00e9 l\u016f\u017eko. To m\u00e1 lidi p\u0159it\u00e1hnout a nazna\u010dit jim, o \u010dem festival je. Kolem p\u00e1t\u00e9 odpoledne se p\u0159esuneme na Ji\u017e\u00e1k, kde se, s v\u00fdjimkou n\u011bkolika sobotn\u00edch akc\u00ed v Region\u00e1ln\u00edm institutu du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed na Doubravce, bude odehr\u00e1vat cel\u00fd v\u00edkendov\u00fd program. V pond\u011bl\u00ed se p\u0159esuneme do Dob\u0159an, kde vystoup\u00ed Brat\u0159i v tricku, co\u017e je pouli\u010dn\u00ed divadlo s prvky nov\u00e9ho cirkusu. V \u00fater\u00fd budeme ve Sn\u011bmovn\u00edm s\u00e1le plze\u0148sk\u00e9 radnice, kde se uskute\u010dn\u00ed setk\u00e1n\u00ed k reform\u011b psychiatrie a n\u011bkolik filozofick\u00fdch p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ek. Ani laici se ov\u0161em v\u016fbec nemus\u00ed b\u00e1t p\u0159ij\u00edt.<\/p>\n

– Je nutn\u00e9 se na p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ky \u010di workshopy p\u0159edem registrovat?<\/p>\n

Na p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ky ne, workshopy maj\u00ed kapacitu cca 10-15 lid\u00ed, tak\u017ee je t\u0159eba p\u0159ij\u00edt v\u010das. M\u00e1me tak\u00e9 facebookov\u00e9 str\u00e1nky, kde se lid\u00e9 mohou hl\u00e1sit, ale nech\u00e1v\u00e1me m\u00edsto i pro ty, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u0159ijdou bez registrace. Pokud se na v\u00e1s nedostane, v\u017edycky ale b\u011b\u017e\u00ed kino, tak\u017ee je mo\u017en\u00e9 se pod\u00edvat na film a po\u010dkat na dal\u0161\u00ed workshop. cel\u00fd program festivalu najdete na webov\u00fdch str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch www.dpdz.cz<\/p>\n

—<\/p>\n

Kl\u00e1ra Hor\u00e1kov\u00e1 Vystudovala biografickou sociologii na FSV UK, absolvovala tak\u00e9 \u010dty\u0159i semestry psychologie pod veden\u00edm docenta Michala \u010cernou\u0161ka a 200 hodin osobn\u00ed tr\u00e9ninkov\u00e9 psychoanalytick\u00e9 psychoterapie. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b je mana\u017eerkou Institutu psychoterapeutick\u00e9ho vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed Epoch\u00e9 a hlavn\u00ed organiz\u00e1torkou Dn\u016f pro du\u0161evn\u00ed zdrav\u00ed, kter\u00fdch se jako \u010dlenka \u0161t\u00e1bu po boku sv\u00e9ho otce a zakladatele Epoch\u00e9 PhDr. Leo\u0161e Hor\u00e1ka \u00fa\u010dastnila u\u017e v roce 1991.<\/p>\n

Kdo organizuje Dny pro du\u0161evn\u00ed zdrav\u00ed<\/p>\n

EPOCH\u00c9: Plze\u0148sk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost pro p\u00e9\u010di o du\u0161evn\u00ed zdrav\u00ed je provozovatelem Region\u00e1ln\u00edho institutu pro du\u0161evn\u00ed zdrav\u00ed, kter\u00fd poskytuje ucelenou zdravotn\u00ed p\u00e9\u010di, a tak\u00e9 Institutu psychoterapeutick\u00e9ho vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, jen\u017e zaji\u0161\u0165uje psychoterapeutick\u00e9 v\u00fdcviky, supervize a osv\u011btu ve\u0159ejnosti (Dny du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed, medializace problematiky du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed, Antero ap.). LEDOVEC: Ledovec je organizace, kter\u00e1 nab\u00edz\u00ed lidem s du\u0161evn\u00edm onemocn\u011bn\u00edm nebo ment\u00e1ln\u00edm hendikepem podporu p\u0159i udr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed a zlep\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed kvality \u017eivota v b\u011b\u017en\u00fdch podm\u00ednk\u00e1ch. Nab\u00edz\u00ed telefonickou krizovou pomoc, odborn\u00e9 soc. poradenstv\u00ed, soc. rehabilitace, chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9 bydlen\u00ed, denn\u00ed stacion\u00e1\u0159, podporovan\u00e9 vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, soc. firmy, Cirkus Paciento.<\/p>\n

MIROSLAVA TOLAROV\u00c1
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