{"id":30361,"date":"2018-04-08T23:21:57","date_gmt":"2018-04-08T21:21:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=30361"},"modified":"2018-04-08T23:25:58","modified_gmt":"2018-04-08T21:25:58","slug":"invalidni-duchod-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=30361","title":{"rendered":"P\u0159iznali j\u00ed vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod. Pen\u00edze v\u0161ak dost\u00e1vala st\u00e1le stejn\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Pro\u010d invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchodkyn\u011b st\u00e1le dost\u00e1v\u00e1 m\u00e9n\u011b pen\u011bz, p\u0159esto\u017ee \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci uznali chybu. Sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu z druh\u00e9ho stupn\u011b na prvn\u00ed znamen\u00e1 pob\u00edrat m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b m\u00e9n\u011b pen\u011bz. T\u0159eba o 2000 korun. Probl\u00e9m je, kdy\u017e jde o chybu l\u00e9ka\u0159e. A kdy\u017e n\u00e1prava nep\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed ani po t\u0159ech letech. Report\u00e1\u017e \u010cT<\/strong><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>report\u00e1\u017e \u010cT &#8211; \u010cern\u00e9 ovce<\/p>\n<p>Dana Honigov\u00e1 z Opavy pracovala dlouh\u00e1 l\u00e9ta jako prodava\u010dka. Kdy\u017e se objevily zdravotn\u00ed probl\u00e9my a ona u\u017e nemohla st\u00e1t cel\u00fd den za pultem, po\u017e\u00e1dala o invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod. Byl j\u00ed p\u0159izn\u00e1n invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00fd, a aby mohla slu\u0161n\u011b \u017e\u00edt, p\u0159ivyd\u011bl\u00e1vala si \u00faklidem, jen\u017ee pot\u00ed\u017ee se zhor\u0161ily.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nVysok\u00fd krevn\u00ed tlak, cukrovka, revmatick\u00e1 artr\u00f3za, c\u00e9vn\u00ed probl\u00e9my, tak\u017ee u\u017e to nebylo nic pro m\u011b. Nemohla jsem zvedat t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 v\u011bci, nemohla jsem st\u00e1t cel\u00fd den na nohou, musela jsem prost\u011b \u010dast\u011bji odpo\u010d\u00edvat. U\u017e to prost\u011b ne\u0161lo.<\/p>\n<p>redaktorka:<br \/>\nA tak si pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e1 v roce 2011 po\u017e\u00e1dala o zv\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nM\u016fj l\u00e9ka\u0159 posb\u00edral v\u0161echny ty m\u00e9 v\u00fdsledky zdravotn\u00ed, poslal to na soci\u00e1ln\u00ed odbor, tam prost\u011b si m\u011b pozvali, a vlastn\u011b mi ur\u010dili, \u017ee ty m\u00e9 choroby jsou takov\u00e9ho r\u00e1zu, \u017ee nem\u016f\u017eu u\u017e vykon\u00e1vat takovou pr\u00e1ci, jak jsem vykon\u00e1vala kdysi. A dali mi teda \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00fd invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod druh\u00e9ho stupn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>redaktorka:<br \/>\nKolik to bylo pen\u011bz?<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nV tom roce 2011 to bylo 8200 korun.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nU invalidn\u00edch d\u016fchod\u016f se ka\u017ed\u00e9 dva roky p\u0159ezkoum\u00e1v\u00e1 zdravotn\u00ed stav, aby se zjistilo, zda doty\u010dn\u00fd je\u0161t\u011b n\u00e1rok na d\u016fchod v\u016fbec m\u00e1. A stejn\u011b tak to bylo u pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e9. V roce 2013 si ji pozvali na kontrolu.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nP\u0159i\u0161la jsem a pan doktor vlastn\u011b mi \u0159ekl, \u017ee vlastn\u011b jsem se uzdravila z\u00e1zra\u010dn\u011b, \u017ee jsou l\u00e9ka\u0159i velice schopn\u00ed u n\u00e1s, \u017ee m\u011b takhle vlastn\u011b uzdravili. A \u017ee mi odeb\u00edr\u00e1 druh\u00fd stupe\u0148 s t\u00edm, \u017ee prost\u011b ten m\u016fj zdravotn\u00ed stav se zlep\u0161il. J\u00e1 jsem nam\u00edtala na to, \u017ee asi t\u011b\u017eko, kdy\u017e m\u00e1m v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed probl\u00e9my. On prost\u011b \u0159ekl, \u017ee tady to vid\u00ed, \u017ee to m\u00e1 od l\u00e9ka\u0159sk\u00fdch n\u00e1lez\u016f, a t\u00edm to pro m\u011b m\u011blo skon\u010dit.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nA t\u00edm to opravdu skon\u010dilo. Pro posudkov\u00e9ho l\u00e9ka\u0159e i pro pan\u00ed Honigovou. Na z\u00e1klad\u011b l\u00e9ka\u0159sk\u00e9ho posudku \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed sn\u00ed\u017eila invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod z druh\u00e9ho stupn\u011b na stupe\u0148 prvn\u00ed. V praxi to znamenalo o 2000 korun m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b m\u00e9n\u011b. A to je docela dost pen\u011bz.<\/p>\n<p>Mario \u0160VEHELKA, pr\u00e1vn\u00edk, b\u00fdval\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159:<br \/>\nZ\u00e1kladn\u00edm zdravotn\u00edm probl\u00e9mem, pro kter\u00fd byl pan\u00ed v minulosti p\u0159izn\u00e1n invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod druh\u00e9ho stupn\u011b, byla \u017eiln\u00ed nedostate\u010dnost. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee je vylou\u010deno, aby se jej\u00ed stav oproti stavu v roce 2011 bez operace zlep\u0161il. Pokud ten posudek v roce 2013 konstatoval zlep\u0161en\u00ed zdravotn\u00edho stavu, tak takov\u00fd argument je z medic\u00ednsk\u00e9ho hlediska nesmysln\u00fd a z hlediska pr\u00e1vn\u00edho tedy ten posudek nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt spr\u00e1vn\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nPan\u00ed Honigov\u00e1 proto nav\u0161t\u00edvila jin\u00e9ho l\u00e9ka\u0159e, kter\u00fd ji znovu vy\u0161et\u0159il. A s novou l\u00e9ka\u0159skou zpr\u00e1vou \u0161la znovu k posudkov\u00e9mu l\u00e9ka\u0159i.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nSamoz\u0159ejm\u011b jsem to p\u0159inesla na tu soci\u00e1lku, tam prost\u011b pan doktor vid\u011bl, \u017ee to je hor\u0161\u00ed, tak mi okam\u017eit\u011b schv\u00e1lil ten druh\u00fd stupe\u0148.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nAsi si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee t\u00edm p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e9 \u0161\u0165astn\u011b kon\u010d\u00ed. Invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod druh\u00e9ho stupn\u011b j\u00ed byl znovu p\u0159izn\u00e1n a znovu j\u00ed budou vypl\u00e1ceny stejn\u00e9 pen\u00edze jako p\u0159edt\u00edm. To si myslela i pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e1. Ale spletla se.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nP\u0159i\u0161el mi pap\u00edr, \u017ee vlastn\u011b d\u016fchod m\u00e1m sice druh\u00fd stupe\u0148, ale pen\u00edze u\u017e mi nep\u0159i\u0161ly. Po\u0159\u00e1d u\u017e m\u00e1m prost\u011b o ty 2000 m\u00e9n\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>, redaktorka:<br \/>\nTak v \u010dem je probl\u00e9m? Snad n\u00e1m to vysv\u011btl\u00ed na \u010cesk\u00e9 spr\u00e1v\u011b soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Jana BURA\u0147OV\u00c1, mluv\u010d\u00ed, \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed:<br \/>\nTo je pr\u00e1v\u011b ta novela z\u00e1kona o d\u016fchodov\u00e9m poji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed, kter\u00e1 plat\u00ed od 1. 1. 2012,kter\u00e1 pr\u00e1v\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee t\u011bm, kter\u00fdm n\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod p\u0159ed 1. 1. 2010 a prob\u011bhla tam l\u00e9ka\u0159sk\u00e1 prohl\u00eddka po roce 2011, pak v\u00fd\u0161e invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu n\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed v dosahovan\u00e9 v\u00fd\u0161i, to znamen\u00e1 v t\u00e9 posledn\u00ed v\u00fd\u0161i, ve kter\u00e9 d\u016fchod byl vypl\u00e1cen.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nAni my jsme z toho zpo\u010d\u00e1tku nebyli moc moud\u0159\u00ed. Probl\u00e9m je v tom, \u017ee \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed vych\u00e1zela z chybn\u00e9ho l\u00e9ka\u0159sk\u00e9ho posudku z roku 2013. Jednodu\u0161e \u0159e\u010deno, druh\u00fd stupe\u0148 invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu nem\u011bl b\u00fdt tehdy pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e9 v\u016fbec odebr\u00e1n.<\/p>\n<p>V\u00e1clav KR\u00c1SA, p\u0159edseda, N\u00e1rodn\u00ed rada osob se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm \u010cR:<br \/>\nPosudkov\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159 v tom odvolac\u00edm \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed z\u0159eteln\u011b konstatoval jasn\u011b, \u017ee to posouzen\u00ed z roku 2013 bylo zcela chybn\u00e9. Dokonce se zd\u00e1, \u017ee ten posudkov\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159 jakoby zkoumal \u00fapln\u011b n\u011bkoho jin\u00e9ho, proto\u017ee tam jsou popleten\u00e9 i prav\u00e1 a lev\u00e1 noha.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nProto\u017ee j\u00e1 jsem m\u011bla vlastn\u011b \u0161patn\u00e9 vy\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed l\u00e9ka\u0159e, tak j\u00e1 ho nedostanu, i kdy\u017e vlastn\u011b jsem byla po\u0159\u00e1d v druh\u00e9m stupni. Tak si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to takov\u00e1 diskriminace.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nPo v\u00edce ne\u017e t\u0159ech letech ale \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed p\u0159ekvapiv\u011b zm\u011bnila n\u00e1zor.<\/p>\n<p>Jana BURA\u0147OV\u00c1, mluv\u010d\u00ed, \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed:<br \/>\nV p\u0159\u00edpadu pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e9 se postupovalo nekomplexn\u011b. To jsme zjistili, kdy\u017e jsme na z\u00e1klad\u011b va\u0161eho n\u00e1m\u011btu nechali komplexn\u011b p\u0159\u00edpad pro\u0161et\u0159it. Skute\u010dn\u011b, recenz\u00ed bylo potvrzeno, \u017ee pan\u00ed je invalidn\u00ed ve druh\u00e9m stupni trvale od \u010dervna 2011.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nNen\u00ed t\u0159eba probl\u00e9m i u t\u011bch posudkov\u00fdch l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016f? Proto\u017ee bylo jasn\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, \u017ee z medic\u00ednsk\u00e9ho hlediska v \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b nemohlo ke zlep\u0161en\u00ed zdravotn\u00edho stavu doj\u00edt. Tak to snad m\u016f\u017ee jaksi rozhodnout ten posudkov\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159, tady takovou skute\u010dnost?<\/p>\n<p>Jana BURA\u0147OV\u00c1, mluv\u010d\u00ed, \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed:<br \/>\nPosudkov\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159 posuzuje stupe\u0148 invalidity, posuzuje zdravotn\u00ed stav, nerozhoduje o d\u016fchodu jako takov\u00e9m. V tom procesu je n\u011bkolik \u010dl\u00e1nk\u016f, kter\u00e9 na sebe navazuj\u00ed, tak\u017ee opravdu nelze uv\u00e9st jednu jedinou osobu nebo jedin\u00fd \u00fatvar, kter\u00fd za to mohl, \u017ee nedo\u0161lo k n\u00e1prav\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>V\u00e1clav KR\u00c1SA, p\u0159edseda, N\u00e1rodn\u00ed rada osob se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm \u010cR:<br \/>\nMus\u00edm \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee bohu\u017eel my m\u00e1me \u0161patn\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti posledn\u00ed dobou s posudkov\u00fdmi l\u00e9ka\u0159i. Oni jsou p\u0159est\u00e1rl\u00ed, je jich m\u00e1lo a ten syst\u00e9m je p\u0159ed kolapsem. Je zcela jasn\u00e9, \u017ee l\u00e9ty se zdravotn\u00ed stav zhor\u0161uje, nem\u016f\u017ee se zlep\u0161it. My tomu tro\u0161ku nerozum\u00edme, jak najednou ti lid\u00e9 m\u016f\u017eou b\u00fdt zdrav\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Jana BURA\u0147OV\u00c1, mluv\u010d\u00ed, \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed:<br \/>\n\u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed vyd\u00e1 nov\u00e9 rozhodnut\u00ed a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b rozhodne o nov\u00e9 v\u00fd\u0161i d\u016fchodu a doplatek samoz\u0159ejm\u011b doplat\u00ed. Je to velice nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e1 situace, pan\u00ed Honigov\u00e9 se omlouv\u00e1me a v co mo\u017en\u00e1 nejbli\u017e\u0161\u00edm term\u00ednu vyd\u00e1me rozhodnut\u00ed a doplatek j\u00ed doplat\u00edme.<\/p>\n<p> redaktorka:<br \/>\nPan\u00ed Honigov\u00e1 tuto situaci marn\u011b \u0159e\u0161ila dva nebo t\u0159i roky. Pro\u010d to ne\u0161lo bez \u010cesk\u00e9 televize vy\u0159e\u0161it?<\/p>\n<p>Jana BURA\u0147OV\u00c1, mluv\u010d\u00ed, \u010cesk\u00e1 spr\u00e1va soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed:<br \/>\nJak u\u017e jsem uvedla, do\u0161lo to&#8230; nebo stalo se to proto, proto\u017ee k p\u0159\u00edpadu nebylo p\u0159istupov\u00e1no komplexn\u011b. A samoz\u0159ejm\u011b je n\u00e1m to velice l\u00edto.<\/p>\n<p>Dana HONIGOV\u00c1, :<br \/>\nPo va\u0161em nat\u00e1\u010den\u00ed mi p\u0159i\u0161el dopis, kdy mi soci\u00e1ln\u00ed spr\u00e1va sd\u011bluje, \u017ee mi vlastn\u011b z t\u011bch 6500 \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00e9ho invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu zvy\u0161uj\u00ed na \u010d\u00e1stku 8800 korun, a \u017ee mi v\u0161echen ten dluh, co vlastn\u011b za ty l\u00e9ta mi dlu\u017e\u00ed, mi doplat\u00ed. Jen d\u00edky \u010cern\u00fdm ovc\u00edm vlastn\u011b v\u0161echno dob\u0159e dopadlo.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Pro\u010d invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchodkyn\u011b st\u00e1le dost\u00e1v\u00e1 m\u00e9n\u011b pen\u011bz, p\u0159esto\u017ee \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci uznali chybu. Sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu z druh\u00e9ho stupn\u011b na prvn\u00ed znamen\u00e1 pob\u00edrat m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b m\u00e9n\u011b pen\u011bz. T\u0159eba <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=30361\" title=\"P\u0159iznali j\u00ed vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod. 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