{"id":31424,"date":"2019-03-27T13:08:00","date_gmt":"2019-03-27T12:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=31424"},"modified":"2019-03-28T17:43:04","modified_gmt":"2019-03-28T16:43:04","slug":"cyril-hoschl-o-vzpoure-ve-svitavkach","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=31424","title":{"rendered":"Cyril H\u00f6schl o vzpou\u0159e ve Svit\u00e1vk\u00e1ch"},"content":{"rendered":"
\u010cesk\u00fd rozhlas Dvojka v po\u0159adu Jak to vid\u00ed ve studiu p\u0159iv\u00edtal zn\u00e1m\u00e9ho psychiatra a profesora Cyrila H\u00f6schla, \u0159editele N\u00e1rodn\u00edho \u00fastavu du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed. Hovo\u0159ilo se o medializovan\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpadu, kdy Jihomoravsk\u00fd kraj nebude stav\u011bt pl\u00e1novan\u00e9 budovy chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9ho bydlen\u00ed ve Svit\u00e1vce na Blanensku, kde m\u011blo \u017e\u00edt 12 lid\u00ed s lehk\u00fdm ment\u00e1ln\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm. Proti se toti\u017e postavila skupina m\u00edstn\u00edch obyvatel, kte\u0159\u00ed se domn\u00edvali, \u017ee \u017eivot v sousedstv\u00ed s handicapovan\u00fdmi m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161et rizika.\u00a0<\/strong><\/div>\n

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Cyril H\u00d6SCHL<\/div>\n
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zkr\u00e1cen\u00fd p\u0159epis rozhovoru<\/div>\n
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Cyril H\u00d6SCHL, \u0159editel, N\u00e1rodn\u00ed \u00fastav du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed
\nJe zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee pot\u00e9, co se zpr\u00e1vy o tom objevily, tak se na m\u011b tenhle dotaz hrne z mnoha stran, proto\u017ee on tro\u0161ku souvis\u00ed s postaven\u00edm lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed se n\u011bjak odli\u0161uj\u00ed, a\u0165 u\u017e jsou to t\u011blesn\u011b posti\u017een\u00ed<\/span> nebo ment\u00e1ln\u011b posti\u017een\u00ed<\/span> anebo psychiatri\u010dt\u00ed pacienti v spole\u010dnosti. A tenhle jev je celkem v\u0161eobecn\u00fd a v\u0161udyp\u0159\u00edtomn\u00fd. A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je sycen sm\u011bsic\u00ed na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b omezenosti, na druh\u00e9 stran\u011b z \u010d\u00e1sti opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00fdch obav, ale tak\u00e9 nedostatku informac\u00ed, zanedban\u00e9 osv\u011bty a tradi\u010dn\u00edho vzdoru proti nezn\u00e1m\u00fdm novot\u00e1m, kter\u00e9mu se n\u011bkdy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 xenofobie, ale to nen\u00ed p\u0159esn\u00e9.<\/div>\n
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moder\u00e1torka
\nStrach mezi m\u00edstn\u00edmi obyvateli vyvolaly nap\u0159\u00edklad l\u017eiv\u00e9 zpr\u00e1vy o tom, \u017ee v domech pr\u00fd budou bez jak\u00e9koliv kontroly bydlet sexu\u00e1ln\u00ed devianti, nebo jedinci nebezpe\u010dn\u00ed pro okol\u00ed, \u017ee se t\u0159eba ceny nemovitost\u00ed p\u0159ist\u011bhov\u00e1n\u00edm t\u011bchto lid\u00ed ve Svit\u00e1vce znehodnot\u00ed. Nakonec veden\u00ed obce, respektive kraje pod vlivem petice ustoupilo od realizace tohoto projektu.Cyril H\u00d6SCHL
\nJe to \u0161koda, \u017ee ustoupilo, proto\u017ee mn\u011b to cel\u00e9 p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 historii na\u0161eho stav\u011bn\u00ed N\u00e1rodn\u00edho \u00fastavu du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed v Klecanech, kdy\u017e se ten projekt chystal a ten z\u00e1m\u011br ve\u0161el ve zn\u00e1most, tak proti n\u00e1m mnoz\u00ed z m\u00edstn\u00edch ob\u010dan\u016f sepisovali petice podobn\u00e9ho r\u00e1zu, \u017ee nedopust\u00ed, aby jejich d\u011bti ohro\u017eovali sexu\u00e1ln\u00ed devianti a podobn\u011b. A dokonce zalo\u017eili webovou str\u00e1nku proti stavb\u011b N\u00e1rodn\u00edho \u00fastavu du\u0161evn\u00edho zdrav\u00ed a ta kampa\u0148 byla pom\u011brn\u011b rozs\u00e1hl\u00e1. My jsme tam chodili s kolegy osobn\u011b na besedy s ob\u010dany vysv\u011btlovat, jak to ve skute\u010dnosti je, nakonec d\u00edky osv\u00edcenosti \u010d\u00e1sti populace a hlavn\u011b veden\u00ed m\u011bsta Klecany se poda\u0159ilo tyhle p\u0159ek\u00e1\u017eky p\u0159ekonat. Tyto postoje m\u00edstn\u00edch ob\u010dan\u016f si pamatuju dost dob\u0159e, proto\u017ee \u00fa\u017easn\u011b kontrastuj\u00ed s t\u00edm, jak\u00e1 je nakonec skute\u010dnost. Ten \u00fastav se dostav\u011bl, je tam 50 l\u016f\u017eek, jsou tam ambulance, jsou tam denn\u00ed stacion\u00e1\u0159e, sp\u00e1nkov\u00e1 laborato\u0159, \u010dili pacienti tam chod\u00ed, ale ba co v\u00edc, cel\u00fd \u00fastav je velmi otev\u0159en a prol\u00edn\u00e1 se s tou m\u00edstn\u00ed komunitou, tak\u017ee k n\u00e1m d\u011bti z okol\u00ed chod\u00ed na ob\u011bdy, dokonce v p\u0159ed\u0161koln\u00edm v\u011bku.<\/p>\n

moder\u00e1torka
\nVid\u00edme, jak d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 informovanost, komunikace.<\/p>\n

Cyril H\u00d6SCHL
\nAno, ale je to zpo\u010d\u00e1tku t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9, ale ex post o tom, \u017ee jsme byli nemilovan\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b, u\u017e nikdo nechce ani sly\u0161et, proto\u017ee naopak mnoz\u00ed jsou py\u0161n\u00ed na to, \u017ee to tam stoj\u00ed. Chod\u00ed k n\u00e1m m\u00edstn\u00ed ob\u010dan\u00e9 na koncerty. Jsou tam r\u016fzn\u00e9 akce, kter\u00e9 jsou otev\u0159eny ve\u0159ejnosti. A najednou nen\u00ed po protestech a po obav\u00e1ch ani stopy, ceny nemovitost\u00ed a pozemk\u016f neklesly, sp\u00ed\u0161e naopak. Zlep\u0161ila se infrastruktura. Chod\u00ed tam studenti z univerzity, \u010dili m\u011bsto o\u017eilo. A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to je k oboustrann\u00e9mu prosp\u011bchu. A kdy\u017e se vr\u00e1t\u00edm tedy k t\u00e9 va\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zce, tak jist\u011b dopady takov\u00e9ho rozsahu nelze \u010dekat od chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9ho bydlen\u00ed pro 12 osob, ale ty obavy jsou stejn\u011b nesmysln\u00e9, jako byly ty obavy v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b NUDZu, proto\u017ee 12 lid\u00ed s leh\u010d\u00edm nebo st\u0159edn\u00edm ment\u00e1ln\u00edm po\u0161kozen\u00edm nep\u0159edstavuje v\u016fbec \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 riziko, ba naopak je dost mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee m\u00edstn\u00ed komunita m\u016f\u017ee takov\u00e9ho za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed a toho, \u017ee poskytne t\u0159eba ur\u010dit\u00e9 slu\u017eby, nebo zam\u011bstn\u00e1n\u00ed, nebo za n\u00edm p\u016fjdou i n\u011bjak\u00e9 dal\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvky, vyu\u017e\u00edt a nakonec se py\u0161nit na to, \u017ee n\u011bco d\u011bl\u00e1 pro dobrou v\u011bc. Tady si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je na m\u00edst\u011b sp\u00ed\u0161 zlep\u0161it osv\u011btu, informovanost a obavy, kter\u00e9 mohou b\u00fdt z \u010d\u00e1sti pochopiteln\u00e9, umen\u0161it a uv\u00e9st na pravou m\u00edru a to je daleko asi prosp\u011b\u0161n\u011bj\u0161\u00ed cesta, ne\u017e t\u011bm obav\u00e1m, kter\u00e9 nejsou opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00e9, ustupovat a ten projekt prost\u011b zak\u00e1zat.<\/p>\n

moder\u00e1torka
\nOstatn\u011b podobn\u00e1 za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed jinde funguj\u00ed, chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9 bydlen\u00ed pro klienty s ment\u00e1ln\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm existuje bez probl\u00e9m\u016f i na jin\u00fdch m\u00edstech regionu, t\u0159eba v Blansku-Klepa\u010dov\u011b, v Boskovic\u00edch a tak d\u00e1le. A starosta, pan Zoubek, \u0159ekl, \u017ee nyn\u00ed i lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed podepsali tu petici proti v\u00fdstavb\u011b toho chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9ho bydlen\u00ed, tak se mu za to p\u0159i\u0161li omlouvat.<\/p>\n

Cyril H\u00d6SCHL
\nosv\u011btu je t\u0159eba podlo\u017eit autentickou zku\u0161enost\u00ed, nap\u0159\u00edklad tam ud\u011blat exkurzi, nebo ob\u010dany, kte\u0159\u00ed se toho ob\u00e1vaj\u00ed, sezn\u00e1mit s t\u011bmi, v jejich sousedstv\u00ed u\u017e n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho stoj\u00ed a nechat je, a\u0165 se jich zeptaj\u00ed sami na to, jak to doopravdy vypad\u00e1, proto\u017ee ch\u00e1pu, \u017ee t\u011bm politik\u016fm, nebo investor\u016fm, nebo t\u00e9 vrchnosti nemus\u00ed d\u016fv\u011b\u0159ovat a nemus\u00ed v\u011b\u0159it jen t\u011bm dobr\u00fdm \u00famysl\u016fm, ale mohou si to ov\u011b\u0159it autenticky u t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed u\u017e n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho za\u017eili, a to si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee by m\u011bla b\u00fdt sou\u010d\u00e1st t\u00e9 osv\u011bty.<\/p>\n

moder\u00e1torka
\nJak se obecn\u011b podle va\u0161ich informac\u00ed nebo zku\u0161enost\u00ed da\u0159\u00ed za\u010dle\u0148ovat, zapojovat spoluob\u010dany s handicapem do t\u00e9 b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti?<\/p>\n

Cyril H\u00d6SCHL
\nto jde velice pomalu a jde to obt\u00ed\u017en\u011b. A n\u011bkdy to je obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9 ve skute\u010dnosti z povahy v\u011bci, proto\u017ee ne ka\u017ed\u00fd je schopn\u00fd v jakkoliv chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci vydr\u017eet, nebo se j\u00ed soustavn\u011b v\u011bnovat, proto\u017ee to z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom funk\u010dn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00ed<\/span>, na v\u00fddr\u017ei, kapacit\u011b, \u00fabytku t\u011bch ment\u00e1ln\u00edch nebo, chcete-li, kognitivn\u00edch funkc\u00ed, a to v\u0161echno je t\u0159eba vz\u00edt v \u00favahu. Tak\u017ee tady jak\u00e1koliv pau\u0161alizace nen\u00ed na m\u00edst\u011b. To znamen\u00e1 \u0159\u00edkat \u0161mahem, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e9ho za\u0159ad\u00edme. Neza\u0159ad\u00edme. Jsou prost\u011b ti, kte\u0159\u00ed nejsou za\u010dleniteln\u00ed. Na druhou stranu je ta pau\u0161alizace opa\u010dn\u00e1, \u017ee kdo m\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00e9 posti\u017een\u00ed<\/span>, tak by m\u011bl b\u00fdt n\u011bkde za zd\u00ed, nebo n\u011bkde v \u00fastavu, nep\u0159ek\u00e1\u017eet a b\u00fdt za horizontem rozli\u0161ovac\u00ed schopnosti v\u011bt\u0161inov\u00e9 populace, tato pau\u0161alizace je nejen nespr\u00e1vn\u00e1, ale je tak\u00e9 nelidsk\u00e1 sv\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem a nepodlo\u017een\u00e1, proto\u017ee spousta, nebo v\u00fdznamn\u00e1 proporce t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed bu\u010f trp\u00ed du\u0161evn\u00ed poruchou, nebo ment\u00e1ln\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm, jsou schopni v ur\u010dit\u00fdch chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00fdch, nebo omezen\u011b n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00fdch podm\u00ednk\u00e1ch fungovat. A je t\u0159eba jim ty podm\u00ednky u\u0161\u00edt na m\u00edru. A to dneska mo\u017en\u00e9 je, proto\u017ee v t\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti se da\u0159\u00ed docela dob\u0159e a je \u0161koda nechat ladem lidsk\u00e9 \u017eivoty, kter\u00e9 se mohou uplatnit a nakonec \u0159ada report\u00e1\u017e\u00ed i takov\u00fdch vstup\u016f, kter\u00e9 v souvislosti s t\u00edm p\u0159\u00edpadem ve Svit\u00e1vce uvedla \u010cesk\u00e1 televize, to kr\u00e1sn\u011b ukazuj\u00ed. Je spousta stereotypn\u00edch nebo manu\u00e1ln\u00edch \u010dinnost\u00ed, kter\u00e9 jsou pro tyto lidi rehabilituj\u00edc\u00ed a dokonce i z\u00e1bavn\u00e9. Zat\u00edmco zdrav\u00fd v\u00fdkonn\u00fd jedinec by jimi opovrhoval, nebo se nudil. A kdy\u017e si to takhle rozd\u011bl\u00edme, tak ka\u017ed\u00fd podle sv\u00fdch mo\u017enost\u00ed najde uplatn\u011bn\u00ed a nakonec nemus\u00ed hr\u00e1t pouze roli toho chovance, ale m\u016f\u017ee hr\u00e1t roli aktivn\u00edho spoluob\u010dana.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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