Rozhovor s \u0159editelem Charity Opava Janem Hanu\u0161em ve studiu \u010cesk\u00e9ho rozhlasu o p\u0159ipravovan\u00fdch dnech sv\u00e1tk\u016f t\u00fdkaj\u00edc\u00edch se nevidom\u00fdch. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
ne\u017e jste se stal \u0159editelem opavsk\u00e9 charity, tak jste pracoval v Dom\u011b svat\u00e9ho Cyrila a Metod\u011bje pro zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00e9, a te\u010f v \u0159\u00edjnu m\u00e1me dva dny, kter\u00e9 se\u00a0nevidom\u00fdm\u00a0v\u011bnuji, a to Sv\u011btov\u00fd den zraku a Mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed den b\u00edl\u00e9 hole a v\u00edte hned v \u00favodu se v\u00e1s zept\u00e1m, jak\u00fd je rozd\u00edl mezi t\u011bma dny a pro\u010d zrovna ty dva dny a nav\u00edc kr\u00e1tko po sob\u011b, proto\u017ee 10. 10. je Sv\u011btov\u00fd den zraku, 15. 10. Mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed den b\u00edl\u00e9 hole.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
A 13. listopadu je Mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed den nevidom\u00fdch a ten my m\u00e1me nejrad\u0161i, tak\u017ee je to vcelku jedno, kter\u00fd den, ale d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je slavit, a to se sna\u017e\u00edme slavit, v\u017edycky poka\u017ed\u00e9 naj\u00edt d\u016fvod k oslav\u011b a slavit, jako t\u011bch zrakov\u00fdch vad je obrovsk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed, a tak asi ka\u017ed\u00e1 by m\u011bla m\u00edt jak\u00fdsi speci\u00e1ln\u00ed sv\u00e1tek, ale jak jsem \u0159\u00edkal, d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je naj\u00edt si ten d\u016fvod a slavit. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
Tak\u017ee nevidom\u00ed budou slavit skoro cel\u00fd t\u00fdden. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,
J\u00e1 v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee ano, v\u017edycky se sna\u017e\u00edme n\u011bco aspo\u0148 t\u0159eba n\u011bjak\u00fd mal\u00fd poh\u00e1r nebo prost\u011b n\u011bjakou vych\u00e1zku nebo n\u011bco.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
, moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
No, na to jsem se cht\u011bl zeptat, jak slav\u00ed\u00a0nevidom\u00ed\u00a0sv\u016fj sv\u00e1tek?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,
\u00dapln\u011b stejn\u011b jako my, kte\u0159\u00ed kouk\u00e1me, my vid\u00edc\u00ed, mo\u017en\u00e1 s v\u011bt\u0161\u00edm akcentem na dobr\u00e9 j\u00eddlo, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b dobr\u00e9 pit\u00ed, proto\u017ee p\u0159ece jenom to se d\u00e1 vychutnat i bez toho zraku nebo v\u016fn\u011b se d\u00e1 vychutnat taky kr\u00e1sn\u011b bez zraku, tak\u017ee mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee nejlep\u0161\u00ed oslava aspo\u0148, co j\u00e1 zn\u00e1m, svoje kamar\u00e1dy nebo p\u0159\u00e1tel\u00e9\u00a0nevidom\u00e9, zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00e9, tak n\u011bjak\u00e9 dobr\u00e9 j\u00eddlo.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Tak\u017ee kdy\u017e m\u00e1me vedle sebe n\u011bjak\u00e9ho zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00e9ho\u00a0a budeme cht\u00edt mu ud\u011blat radost, tak ho pozveme na n\u011bco dobr\u00e9ho, n\u011bjak\u00fd vo\u0148av\u00e9 j\u00eddlo?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,\u00a0
Ano.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Eventu\u00e1ln\u011b vo\u0148avku m\u016f\u017eeme mu koupit.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,
No, to nev\u00edm, n\u011bkdy u\u017e to je tak moc, ale n\u011bjak\u00e9 vo\u0148av\u00e9 j\u00eddlo, kter\u00e9 se dob\u0159e j\u00ed, velice t\u0159eba slo\u017eit\u011b se j\u00ed krokety, ty v\u00e1m l\u00edtaj\u00ed po tal\u00ed\u0159i a t\u011b\u017eko se tam nah\u00e1n\u011bj\u00ed, ale kdy\u017e je to j\u00eddlo, kter\u00e9 dob\u0159e je uspo\u0159\u00e1dan\u00e9 a dob\u0159e von\u00ed, tak si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to je \u00fa\u017easn\u00fd kulin\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitek, ono kdysi d\u00e1vno, j\u00e1 jsem d\u011blal takov\u00e9ho instruktora prostorov\u00e9 orientace a v r\u00e1mci jak\u00e9hosi tr\u00e9ninku jsme m\u011bli klapky na o\u010di, kter\u00e9 jsme nesm\u011bli sundat a m\u011bli jsme vlastn\u011b cel\u00fd den v tom str\u00e1vit, to znamen\u00e1 obl\u00e9ct se, n\u011bjak\u00e1 hygiena, n\u011bkde n\u00e1s nalo\u017eili do auta, n\u011bkde jsme m\u011bli doj\u00edt, potom jsme dostali j\u00eddlo a ono je to velice, velice zaj\u00edmav\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitek.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
, moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
co jste o nevidom\u00fdch\u00a0v\u011bd\u011bl? J\u00e1 jsem se u\u017e za t\u011bch p\u00e1r minut dozv\u011bd\u011bl hodn\u011b v\u011bc\u00ed, jak p\u0159istupovat k t\u011bm\u00a0nevidom\u00fdm, jak jste \u0159ekl takov\u00e1 ban\u00e1ln\u00ed v\u011bc, ne krokety, to jsou v\u011bci, to by m\u011b nenapadlo.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Jo, je to tak.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Ale co vy jste v\u011bd\u011bl o nich anebo co jste se pak je\u0161t\u011b dozv\u011bd\u011bl, nau\u010dil z toho sv\u011bta zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00fdch\u00a0nebonevidom\u00fdch?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,
Abych \u0159ekl pravdu moc jsem toho nev\u011bd\u011bl, j\u00e1 jsem p\u0159edt\u00edm ne\u017e jsem p\u0159i\u0161el do charity Opava a v\u011bnoval se Domu pro zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00e9, teda\u00a0nevidom\u00fdm, tak jsem pracoval jako elektrotechnik a vlastn\u011b to je dost jin\u00fd, jin\u00fd byznys.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Tam pot\u0159ebujete m\u00edt dobr\u00fd zrak.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,
ot\u0159ebuju dobr\u00fd zrak a n\u011bjak\u00e9 znalosti elektrotechniky, potom m\u011b oslovila pan\u00ed b\u00fdval\u00e1 \u0159editelka organizace Charity Opava, jestli bych ned\u011blal n\u011bco snevidom\u00fdma\u00a0a to n\u011bco to m\u011blo b\u00fdt d\u011blat ko\u0161\u00edky a d\u011blat n\u011bjak\u00e9 takov\u00e9 v\u011bci neur\u010dit\u00e9 a j\u00e1 jsem si to za\u010dal n\u011bjak studovat a za\u010dali jsme nav\u0161t\u011bvovat n\u011bjak\u00e9 lidi se zrakov\u00fdm posti\u017een\u00edm, za\u010dal jsem z\u00edsk\u00e1vat informace, tak\u017ee ze za\u010d\u00e1tku jsem nev\u011bd\u011bl nic a potom jsem se dozv\u00eddal takov\u00e9 \u0161peky, dejme tomu, takov\u00e9 v\u011bci, m\u011bl jsem mo\u017enost si vyzkou\u0161et i ch\u016fzi s hol\u00ed, m\u011bl jsem mo\u017enost b\u00fdt s t\u011bm\u00a0nevidom\u00fdma\u00a0a j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee b\u00fdt s n\u00edm, \u017ee se \u010dlov\u011bk nejv\u00edc nau\u010d\u00ed, na\u0161e prvn\u00ed klientka byla pan\u00ed Iveta a j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee jsme a to m\u016f\u017eu nazvat p\u0159\u00e1tel\u00e9 a hodn\u011b moc nap\u0159\u00edklad od n\u00ed jsem se dozv\u011bd\u011bl.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
J\u00e1 bych pozdravil od mikrofonu man\u017eel\u00e9 Buz\u00e1kovi z Lan\u0161krouna, to je takovej\u00a0nevidom\u00fd\u00a0p\u00e1r.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
Ano. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
bych se v\u00e1s zeptal, takov\u00e1 ta ot\u00e1zka, kter\u00e1 n\u00e1s n\u011bkdy tr\u00e1p\u00ed nebo netr\u00e1p\u00ed, co je hor\u0161\u00ed nebo v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed\u00a0posti\u017een\u00ed, nevid\u011bt nebo nesly\u0161et, pt\u00e1m se proto, \u017ee jsem se s hluchon\u011bm\u00fdmi tak\u00e9 n\u011bkdy pracoval, vy se zrakov\u011b posti\u017een\u00fdmi, j\u00e1 s hluchon\u011bm\u00fdmi, jak se na to d\u00edv\u00e1te, je na to v\u016fbec n\u011bjak\u00e1 odpov\u011b\u010f?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
To odpov\u00edm hned, odborn\u00e1 ve\u0159ejnost m\u00e1 jasno, laick\u00e1 ve\u0159ejnost m\u00e1 taky jasno a ty dv\u011b odpov\u011bdi jsou diametr\u00e1ln\u011b odli\u0161n\u00e9, laick\u00e1 ve\u0159ejnost \u0159ekne, j\u00e1 si nedovedu p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee bych nevid\u011bl, odborn\u00e1 ve\u0159ejnost, co j\u00e1 m\u00e1m znalosti v\u00ed, \u017ee \u010dlov\u011bk se sluchov\u00fdm posti\u017een\u00edm je v\u00edc v izolaci soci\u00e1ln\u00ed a ta soci\u00e1ln\u00ed izolace daleko v\u00edc bol\u00ed, podle statistik se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee lidi se sluchov\u00fdch posti\u017een\u00edm maj\u00ed daleko v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed pravd\u011bpodobnost nebo procento sklonu k sebevra\u017ed\u00e1m, m\u00e1m t\u0159eba kamar\u00e1da, kter\u00fd je sluchov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00fd, j\u00e1 neum\u00edm znakovou \u0159e\u010d, on j\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b doned\u00e1vna taky neum\u011bl.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Ale j\u00e1 u\u017e jsem zapomn\u011bl.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Vy u\u017e jste zapomn\u011bl a velice t\u011b\u017ece, on ani neum\u011bl jakoby ps\u00e1t a \u010d\u00edst, tak\u017ee se velice t\u011b\u017ece n\u00e1m komunikovalo, akor\u00e1t takov\u00e9 posunky, jak se m\u00e1\u0161 a takov\u00e9 n\u011bjak\u00e9 v\u011bci, se zrakov\u011bposti\u017een\u00fdm\u00a0\u010dlov\u011bkem si \u010dlov\u011bk norm\u00e1ln\u011b povykl\u00e1d\u00e1, tak\u017ee dle m\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru, dle m\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00ednen\u00ed tak hrozn\u00e9.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
Zrak n\u00e1m umo\u017e\u0148uje vn\u00edmat sv\u011btlo, r\u016fzn\u00e9 barvy, je to mo\u017en\u00e1 ten n\u00e1\u0161 nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed smysl, proto\u017ee n\u011bkde jsem \u010detl, \u017ee 80 % informaci z vn\u011bj\u0161\u00edho prost\u0159ed\u00ed, sv\u011bta, p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed do n\u00e1s nebo z\u00edsk\u00e1v\u00e1me zrakem. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Je to p\u0159esn\u011b tak, s t\u00edm pln\u011b souhlas\u00edm, je to i tak, \u017ee kdy\u017e ten zrakov\u00fd vjem \u010dlov\u011bk nem\u00e1, tak ho potom nahrazuje n\u011b\u010d\u00edm jin\u00fdm, nahrazuje ho nap\u0159\u00edklad sluchem, nahrazuje ho hmatem a vlastn\u011b potom vznikaj\u00ed takov\u00e9 f\u00e1my, \u017ee ten \u010dlov\u011bk je z\u00e1zra\u010dn\u011b, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, sluchov\u011b nadan\u00fd nebo z\u00e1zra\u010dn\u00fdch hmat m\u00e1, ale to je jenom, \u017ee vlastn\u011b my v\u0161ichni jsme p\u0159ehlceni t\u00edm zrakem.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
\u017de rekompenzujeme si to.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano jin\u00fdmi smysly naprosto p\u0159esn\u011b.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Ano, my si mysl\u00edme o r\u016fzn\u011b handicapovan\u00fdch, obecn\u011b mysl\u00edm lidech s handicapem.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
M\u00e1 se to takto \u0159\u00edkat.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Takhle se to m\u00e1 \u0159\u00edkat?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, m\u00e1 se to takto \u0159\u00edkat.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
A vy vysv\u011btl\u00edte pro\u010d?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Proto\u017ee m\u00e1me vid\u011bt nap\u0159ed toho \u010dlov\u011bka a nem\u00e1me vid\u011bt nap\u0159ed ten handicap, ale nap\u0159ed toho \u010dlov\u011bka, kdy\u017e \u0159ekneme handicapovan\u00fd, tak si tam p\u0159edstav\u00edme tu zlomenou nohu nebo tu ledvinu chyb\u011bj\u00edc\u00ed, ale kdy\u017e \u0159ekneme \u010dlov\u011bk s handicapem.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Tak je tam na prv\u00e9m m\u00edst\u011b ten \u010dlov\u011bk.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
No a my si o t\u011bchto lidech mysl\u00edme, \u017ee jsou o n\u011bco ochuzeni, j\u00e1 se ale zept\u00e1m naopak, o co je sv\u011bt\u00a0nevidom\u00fdch\u00a0bohat\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e ten n\u00e1\u0161 u lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed vid\u00edme? Je tam, m\u016f\u017eeme tam n\u011bco naj\u00edt?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Jako ur\u010dit\u011b je to slo\u017eit\u00e1 situace, kdy\u017e d\u00edt\u011b oslepne nebo kdy\u017e mlad\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk oslepne nebo kdy\u017e i star\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk d\u00edky cukrovce oslepne, ale na druhou stranu, ten \u017eivot vnit\u0159n\u00ed m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt daleko, daleko bohat\u0161\u00ed a je daleko bohat\u0161\u00ed, ano ten \u010dlov\u011bk se mus\u00ed nau\u010dit chodit s hol\u00ed, se mus\u00ed nau\u010dit r\u016fzn\u00e9 sebeobslu\u017en\u00e9 \u00fakony, ale co zn\u00e1m lidi se zrakov\u00fdm posti\u017een\u00edm, tak to jsou lid\u00ed vnit\u0159n\u011b bohat\u00ed, jsou to lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed neum\u00edm \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee by n\u011bjak trp\u011bli v\u00fdznamn\u011b, tak\u017ee \u0159ekl bych, \u017ee o to vnit\u0159n\u00ed pro\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed, kdy\u017e se radujou, tak se radujou.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Nakonec jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 Exup\u00e9ry, to nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed je o\u010d\u00edm neviditeln\u00e9.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
P\u0159esn\u011b tak.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
U p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti Sv\u011btov\u00e9ho dne zraku, tak\u00e9 Mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edho dne b\u00edl\u00e9 hole a Mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edho dne.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Nevidom\u00fdch.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
pane \u0159editeli, j\u00e1 jsem sly\u0161el, \u017ee vy v tom svoj\u00edm domu klienti v Domu pro zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00e9, \u017ee v tom domu m\u00e1te tak\u00e9 i televizi, \u017ee, oni koukaj\u00ed na televizi.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160,
Dokonce m\u00e1me velkou televize s dobr\u00fdm audiem ano. Pod\u00edvejte se, je to tak, \u017ee t\u0159eba, kdy\u017e se \u0159ekne \u010dlov\u011bk nevidom\u00fd, tak dokonce i ten\u00a0nevidom\u00fd\u00a0m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt zbytek zraku nebo m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt n\u011bjakou chorobu, kter\u00e1 mu umo\u017e\u0148uje sledovat televizi, sice nevid\u00ed \u00fapln\u011b p\u0159esn\u011b, ale vid\u00ed aspo\u0148 n\u011bco, co se d\u011bje, ta stejn\u00e1 choroba ho ale odsuzuje k tomu, aby neum\u011bl p\u0159ej\u00edt ulici jo, \u017ee ono je to takov\u00e9, nen\u00ed to, \u017ee kdy\u017e se \u0159ekne \u010dlov\u011bk\u00a0nevidom\u00fd, tak jak bych si dal ruce p\u0159ed o\u010di a nevid\u011bl bych v\u016fbec nic, tak\u017ee zp\u00e1tky k t\u00e9 ot\u00e1zce, ano, m\u00e1me televizi, televize je velice d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1, proto\u017ee krom obrazu je tam i slo\u017eka zvukov\u00e1, nav\u00edc dneska u\u017e jsou i dabovan\u00e9 filmy, dabovan\u00e9 zvukov\u011b, existujou stopy zvukov\u00e9 k tomu filmu.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Ano.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Tak\u017ee j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli jste to n\u011bkdy vid\u011bl, \u010di sly\u0161el, ale je film, Hanka se skl\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159ed sv\u00fdm j\u00e1 nev\u00edm.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Pane Jane, j\u00e1 jsem jednou byl ubytov\u00e1ny v hotelu, zrovna jsem p\u0159i\u0161el do pokoje, zapnul jsem si televizi a tohle mi ta televize \u0159\u00edkala, \u017ee se skl\u00e1n\u00ed, asi to nejhor\u0161\u00ed bylo, \u017ee jsem to neum\u011bl vypnout.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
M\u016f\u017ee to b\u00fdt ru\u0161iv\u00e9 pro n\u011bkoho ano, ano.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Ale to jsem pochopil pro koho to je, ano.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, ale jsou t\u0159eba takov\u00e9 seri\u00e1ly, kter\u00e9 vlastn\u011b jako nem\u00e1m nic proti seri\u00e1l\u016fm, j\u00e1 na n\u011b nekouk\u00e1m, ale moc toho d\u011bje se tam vizu\u00e1ln\u00edho ned\u011bje, ale je tam hodn\u011b dialog\u016f a to lidi m\u016f\u017eou sledovat, i zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00ed, tak\u017ee hodn\u011b lid\u00ed se sna\u017e\u00ed koukat na televizi a koukat s t\u00edm, schv\u00e1ln\u011b pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1m tohle to slovo sledovat televizi, j\u00e1 nevid\u00edm \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd probl\u00e9m, \u0159\u00edct koukat,nevidom\u00e9mu, \u017ee se kouk\u00e1 na televizi to jako, taky si \u0159\u00edk\u00e1me a uvid\u00edme se p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011b.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
No, p\u0159esn\u011b moji zn\u00e1m\u00ed z Lan\u0161krouna, kter\u00e9 jsem tady vzpom\u00ednal, kdy\u017e se potk\u00e1me na ulice, oni maj\u00ed skute\u010dn\u011b, oni sly\u0161\u00ed, oni sly\u0161\u00ed m\u016fj krok, oni poznaj, \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed, to je kr\u00e1sn\u00e9, \u017ee v\u00e1s vid\u00edme, pane far\u00e1\u0159i.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, p\u0159esn\u011b tohle se d\u011bje.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Oni \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed tak\u00e9, \u017ee vid\u00edm, d\u00edval jsem se a tak d\u00e1le.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Jo, j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee my koukav\u00ed z toho m\u00e1me takov\u00fd jakoby probl\u00e9m, ale v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed\u00a0nevidom\u00fdch\u00a0z toho probl\u00e9m nem\u00e1, norm\u00e1ln\u011b to \u0159eknou.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee na\u00a0nevidom\u00e9\u00a0je te\u010f v posledn\u00ed dob\u011b i hodn\u011b vid\u011bt a to tak\u00e9 z\u00e1sluhou \u010cesk\u00e9ho rozhlasu a Anety Langerov\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
P\u0159i\u0161la s t\u00edm benefi\u010dn\u00edm projektem Kav\u00e1rny potm\u011b a dal\u0161\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, jsou ur\u010dit\u011b takov\u00e9 projekty, kter\u00e9 tuhle tu problematiku daleko v\u00edc zviditelnuj\u00ed, daleko v\u00edc je to, je to vid\u011bt, je to tak.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Pozorujete to ve spole\u010dnosti?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Tak pozoruju to ve spole\u010dnosti, bohu\u017eel mus\u00edm \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee i pozoruj\u00ed tro\u0161i\u010dku druh\u00fd trend, \u017ee ub\u00fdv\u00e1 lid\u00ed \u010dist\u011b se zrakov\u00fdm handicapem, nebo bohu\u017eel mo\u017en\u00e1 bohud\u00edk, proto\u017ee postupuje l\u00e9\u010dba a o\u010dn\u00ed l\u00e9ka\u0159stv\u00ed postupuje velice rychle dop\u0159edu, to co byly d\u0159\u00edve speci\u00e1ln\u00ed operace, kde se jezdilo do ciz\u00edch st\u00e1t\u016f, tak dneska je to de facto ban\u00e1ln\u00ed operace, a\u0165 u\u017e to jsou operace s\u00edtnice nebo n\u011bjak\u00e9 jin\u00e9 podobn\u00e9 operace, tak\u017ee ano na jednu stranu je v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed propagace cel\u00e9ho toho segmentu a na druhou stranu je m\u00e9n\u011b, procentu\u00e1ln\u011b m\u00e9n\u011b \u010dist\u00fdch zrakov\u011b\u00a0posti\u017een\u00fdch\u00a0lid\u00ed, co\u017e je sv\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem dob\u0159e.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
M\u011b te\u010f napadla takov\u00e1 souvislost se zrakem, souvis\u00ed se to se zrakem, proto\u017ee kdysi jsem hodn\u011b \u010detl a pak se n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem postupn\u011b p\u0159est\u00e1val \u010d\u00edst a mn\u011b to jakoby nebavilo a a\u017e do okam\u017eiku, kdy\u017e jsem p\u0159i\u0161el za pan\u00ed doktorkou na o\u010dn\u00ed, proto\u017ee jsem zjistil, \u017ee v t\u011bch obchodech, kdy\u017e se d\u00edv\u00e1m na ty obaly, j\u00e1 si to tam nedok\u00e1\u017eu p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst a \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, asi n\u011bco bude a ona skute\u010dn\u011b zjistila, \u017ee ten zrak m\u016fj nen\u00ed v po\u0159\u00e1dku, dostal jsem br\u00fdle a najednou zase m\u011b \u017eivot za\u010dal bavit a za\u010dalo m\u011b bavit i \u010dten\u00ed.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Je to tak, ono s lidma, s\u00a0nevidom\u00fdm\u00a0lidma je to tro\u0161i\u010dku obdobn\u00e9, oni nedostanou p\u0159\u00edmo br\u00fdle, ale dneska je velk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed techniky, existuj\u00ed skenery, m\u016f\u017eete si zaj\u00edt do knihovny, p\u016fj\u010dit si b\u011b\u017enou kn\u00ed\u017eku, d\u00e1t ho do skeneru a te\u010f bu\u010fto v\u00e1m to jakoby p\u0159e\u010dte syntetick\u00fd hlas nebo se to naskenuje a m\u016f\u017eete si to p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst brejlem, existuje spousta nadabovan\u00e9, \u010cesk\u00fd rozhlas taky m\u00e1 velice kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 knihy, cel\u00e9 knihy nadabovan\u00e9, tak\u017ee \u010dlov\u011bk si m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst knihu ve smyslu, \u017ee si j\u00ed poslechne, existuje spousta zp\u016fsob\u016f, jak se daj\u00ed \u010d\u00edst, jako by si \u010dlov\u011bk za\u0161el k optikou a dostal ty br\u00fdle.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
B\u00edl\u00e1 h\u016fl je symbolem zrakov\u00e9ho\u00a0posti\u017een\u00ed, ale zrakov\u011b posti\u017een\u00fdm\u00a0tak\u00e9 pom\u00e1haj\u00ed vycvi\u010den\u00e9.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Vycvi\u010den\u00ed psi ano.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Ano a je zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee oni \u010dasto jsou b\u00edl\u00ed tak\u00e9. Tak\u017ee ne jen b\u00edl\u00e1 h\u016fl, ale i b\u00edl\u00fd pes pom\u00e1h\u00e1.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Je to tak, mo\u017en\u00e1 nej\u010dast\u011bj\u0161\u00ed a nejzn\u00e1m\u011bj\u0161\u00ed je labrador a ty jsou sv\u011btlej\u0161\u00ed, nicm\u00e9n\u011b b\u00edlou h\u016fl bych nem\u011bnil, proto\u017ee i \u010dlov\u011bk, kdy\u017e jde se psem, tak tu b\u00edlou h\u016fl p\u0159ece jenom, to je takov\u00e1 jeden, jeden kamar\u00e1d\u00a0nevidom\u00fd\u00a0\u0159\u00edkal, to je moje milenka, to je, bez n\u00ed prost\u011b si to nedovede p\u0159edstavit tu drobnou orientaci, tak\u017ee b\u00edl\u00e1 h\u016fl je v\u017edycky jedni\u010dka.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava\u00a0
my m\u00e1me obrovsk\u00e9 portfolium slu\u017eeb a m\u00e1me, kdy\u017e to \u0159eknu jednodu\u0161e, m\u00e1me zdravotn\u00ed sestry, m\u00e1me p\u00e9\u010di v ter\u00e9nu, m\u00e1me soci\u00e1ln\u00ed slu\u017eby, m\u00e1me stacion\u00e1\u0159e, m\u00e1me poradenstv\u00ed a m\u00e1me chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9 d\u00edlny, asi to co n\u00e1s nejv\u00edc te\u010fko posledn\u00ed dobou, posledn\u00ed dva roky zah\u0159\u00edvalo a hn\u011btlo, byly pr\u00e1v\u011b ty chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e9 d\u00edlny. P\u0159ed \u010dasem jsme, p\u0159ed ned\u00e1vnem kr\u00e1tkou dobu jsme dokon\u010dili st\u011bhov\u00e1n\u00ed v\u0161ech chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00fdch d\u00edlen, kter\u00e9 jsme m\u011bli a m\u011bli jsme to na t\u0159ech m\u00edstech do jednoho objektu a podot\u00fdk\u00e1m v tom jednom objektu bude pracovat 150 lid\u00ed s posti\u017een\u00edm, tak\u017ee to je obrovsk\u00fd projekt na Charitu Opava, mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee nejenom na charitu Opava, ale na celou \u010ceskou republiku.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Tak j\u00e1 mo\u017en\u00e1 dopln\u00edm, aby si lid\u00e9 uv\u011bdomili rozsah toho projektu, \u017ee to celkem stoj\u00ed asi 50 milion\u016f?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Je to za 50 milion\u016f, my jsme 10 let se sna\u017eili naj\u00edt n\u011bjak\u00fd objekt, kter\u00fd by n\u00e1m vyhovoval, abychom d\u011blali kvalitn\u00ed pr\u00e1ci, abychom nab\u00eddli na\u0161im zam\u011bstnanc\u016fm dobrou pr\u00e1ci, za kterou by dostali plat rozumn\u00fd, tak pot\u0159ebujeme velk\u00e9 prostory, a to se n\u00e1m 10 rok\u016f neda\u0159ilo a\u017e jedna na\u0161e velice dobr\u00e1 zn\u00e1m\u00e1 n\u00e1m dala tip na objekt, kter\u00fd sice byl v dezol\u00e1tn\u00edm stavu, byl za 20 milion\u016f, pomoc\u00ed na\u0161eho z\u0159izovatele se n\u00e1m to poda\u0159ilo opravit, n\u011bco jsme dodali my, celkem 50 milion\u016f, je to obrovsk\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1stka opravdu.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
A mysl\u00edte, \u017ee je to dob\u0159e, \u017ee bude jedna velk\u00e1 chr\u00e1n\u011bn\u00e1 d\u00edlna, \u017ee to, v\u00edte, je to takov\u00e1 centralizace tro\u0161ku.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
HANU\u0160,
opravdu na tom jednom m\u00edst\u011b bude 150 lid\u00ed, ale j\u00e1 to nevid\u00edm jako probl\u00e9m, je to z toho d\u016fvodu, \u017ee samoz\u0159ejm\u011b otev\u0159en\u00fd trh pr\u00e1ce je \u00fapln\u011b nejlep\u0161\u00ed pro ka\u017ed\u00e9ho \u010dlov\u011bka, ale je spousta lid\u00ed.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
To znamen\u00e1 to, o \u010dem mluv\u00edme ve \u0161kolstv\u00ed, inkluze?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, to by m\u011blo b\u00fdt, a to se sna\u017e\u00edme v\u017edycky, aby to byla jedni\u010dka.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
Na prvn\u00edm m\u00edst\u011b. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, ale je t\u0159eba si uv\u011bdomit, \u017ee existuje spousta lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed se na otev\u0159en\u00fd trh pr\u00e1ce nedostanou, j\u00e1 \u0159eknu typick\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd t\u0159eba u n\u00e1s pracuje, je nap\u0159\u00edklad zedn\u00edk, kter\u00fd je po n\u011bjak\u00e9 t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 operaci p\u00e1te\u0159e a on tu zedni\u010dinu nem\u016f\u017ee d\u011blat, no jo ale on m\u00e1 t\u0159eba 55 rok\u016f, 55 rok\u016f, zdravotn\u00edposti\u017een\u00ed, chce d\u011blat chlapskou pr\u00e1ci a nem\u00e1 moc \u0161anc\u00ed na otev\u0159en\u00e9m trhu pr\u00e1ce, proto nap\u0159\u00edklad pro tady tyhle ty p\u0159\u00edpady jsme tady my, u n\u00e1s d\u011bl\u00e1me mimo jin\u00e9 nap\u0159\u00edklad separaci elektrotechnick\u00e9ho odpadu a takov\u00fd chlap si vezme, dostane pra\u010dku, tu si, tu m\u00e1 postavenou na stole a m\u016f\u017ee rozebrat pra\u010dku, je tu kus chlapsk\u00e9 pr\u00e1ce a on dostane jak\u00fdsi napln\u011bn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u017eivot. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Co tam je\u0161t\u011b budou va\u0161i klienti d\u011blat?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
Krom t\u00e9 separace a elektrotechnick\u00e9ho odpadu, kter\u00e1 je takov\u00e1 jedna z nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edch \u010d\u00e1st\u00ed, d\u011bl\u00e1me takov\u00e9 ty klasick\u00e9 keramick\u00e9 v\u00fdrobky, m\u00e1me automatick\u00e9 vy\u0161\u00edvac\u00ed stroje, m\u00e1me \u0161vadleny, v t\u00e9to dob\u011b \u0161ijeme spoustu rou\u0161ek, m\u00e1me lasery, laserema um\u00edme vypalovat \u0161t\u00edty, zase pro tuto dobu velice praktick\u00e9. M\u00e1me d\u00edlni\u010dku, kde pracujou lidi s t\u011b\u017ek\u00fdm psychick\u00fdm posti\u017een\u00edm, ti pracujou na do\u010di\u0161\u0165ov\u00e1n\u00ed mal\u00fdch elektroodpad\u016f, dejme tomu, m\u00e1me d\u00edlni\u010dku, kde d\u011bl\u00e1me kompletaci nap\u0159\u00edklad pro firmy \u010dokol\u00e1da, kafe v n\u011bjak\u00e9 d\u00e1rkov\u00e9 balen\u00ed, to m\u016f\u017eeme d\u011blat v tis\u00edci kusech. Vyhr\u00e1li jsme te\u010f ned\u00e1vno zak\u00e1zku pro Moravskoslezsk\u00fd kraj, kdy\u017e jsme dom\u00e1cnosti dod\u00e1vali, to bylo tu\u0161\u00edm p\u0159es 20 000 kus\u016f ob\u00e1lek, kde si lidi nap\u00ed\u0161ou sv\u00e9 zdravotn\u00ed omezen\u00ed, l\u00e9ka\u0159e, kter\u00fd l\u00e9ky berou, a to cel\u00e9 si daj\u00ed na ledni\u010dku nebo do ledni\u010dky a to je takov\u00e9 Moravskoslezsk\u00e9m kraji velice dobr\u00e1, dobr\u00e1 praxe, \u017ee \u010dlov\u011bk, kdy\u017e m\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00fd zdravotn\u00ed probl\u00e9m, n\u011bjak\u00fd atak, tak pak hled\u00e1, kde m\u00e1 jak\u00e9 l\u00e9ky, co bere, kdy\u017e p\u0159ijde rychl\u00e1, tak v Moravskoslezsk\u00e9m kraji je jasn\u00e9, \u017ee je to v ledni\u010dce nebo na ledni\u010dce napsan\u00e9. A ty v\u00fdrobky byly od n\u00e1s, tak\u017ee m\u00e1me velkou spoustu prac\u00ed a pracovn\u00edch \u010dinnost\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Mo\u017en\u00e1 i d\u00edky t\u011bm r\u016fzn\u00fdm n\u00e1pad\u016fm, kter\u00e9 m\u00e1te, tak proto mimo jin\u00e9 jste u\u017e 16 let v t\u00e9 funkci \u0159editele opavsk\u00e9 charity a za tuto \u010dinnost jste v roce 2018 obdr\u017eel i cenu Charity \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky a jsem r\u00e1d, \u017ee jsem mohl b\u00fdt u toho.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, byli jsme u toho, vid\u011bli jsme se. Je to tak, j\u00e1 si to \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m s nads\u00e1zkou, \u017ee p\u00e1nb\u016fh pot\u0159eboval n\u011bjak\u00e9ho kon\u011b, kter\u00fd by to t\u00e1hnul a kon\u011b nena\u0161el, tak na\u0161el osla, no tak to jsem j\u00e1, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli m\u00e1m n\u011bjak\u00e9 speci\u00e1ln\u00ed schopnosti, znalosti, zat\u00edm se sna\u017e\u00edm a najednou jsem se vzbudil a je to 16 rok\u016f, no tak uvid\u00edme jak, jak to v\u0161echno bude. Ty n\u00e1pady jsou a opravdu ten zp\u016fsob na\u0161\u00ed pr\u00e1ce je takov\u00fd neot\u0159el\u00fd a hled\u00e1me zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed cesty a jin\u00e9 cesty, hled\u00e1me skulinky, je to hodn\u011b moc d\u00edky t\u00fdmu, kter\u00e9mu bych cht\u011bl moc pod\u011bkovat, v\u0161em zam\u011bstnanc\u016fm m\u00fdm, ty jsou skv\u011bl\u00fd.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
V jednom rozhovoru jste \u0159ekl, c\u00edlen\u011b se sna\u017e\u00edm vychov\u00e1vat se k radosti a nelibovat si ve chmurech.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Jo, ty chmury jsou takov\u00e9 slo\u017eit\u00e9, ob\u010das m\u011b to p\u0159epad\u00e1 v\u016fbec v dob\u011b koronavirov\u00e9, \u010dlov\u011bk m\u00e1 zodpov\u011bdnost, jak to v\u0161echno zabezpe\u010dit jo, j\u00e1 jsem kdysi byl na n\u011bjak\u00fdm \u0161kolen\u00ed a tam byl lektor, kter\u00fd m\u011bl motto, \u00fasp\u011bch za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 tam, kde se \u010dlov\u011bk c\u00edt\u00ed dob\u0159e, a tak sna\u017e\u00edm se a sna\u017e\u00edm se, aby kolegov\u00e9 se c\u00edtili dob\u0159e, abysme byli \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00ed.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
Co d\u011bl\u00e1te s\u00e1m pro sebe, abyste se c\u00edtil ka\u017ed\u00fd den takhle dob\u0159e a abyste byl, tak jak tady optimisticky nalad\u011bn\u00fd?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
To by asi \u0159ekla nejl\u00edp man\u017eelka, ka\u017ed\u00fd den nejsem optimisticky nalad\u011bn\u00fd, mo\u017en\u00e1 se jenom o to sna\u017e\u00edm a ta snaha je, \u0159\u00edkala mi jedna zn\u00e1m\u00e1, \u017ee si m\u00e1m naj\u00edt kon\u00ed\u010dky, tak jsem hledal kon\u00ed\u010dky, a tak jsem si vytipoval akvaristiku a vytipoval jsem si focen\u00ed. Akvaristiku m\u00e1m, kdysi jsem choval piran\u011b, ale te\u010f u\u017e chov\u00e1m jenom mal\u00e9 rybky a focen\u00ed to m\u011b bere opravdu, sna\u017e\u00edm se fo\u0165\u00e1k m\u00edt s sebou neust\u00e1le, bu\u010fto v mobilu m\u00e1m celkem dobr\u00fd fo\u0165\u00e1k, ale hlavn\u011b zrcadlovku, sna\u017e\u00edm se i se stojanem, jak u\u017e jsem \u0159\u00edkal nap\u0159\u00edklad do p\u0159\u00edrody n\u011bkde, pak m\u00e1m r\u00e1d proch\u00e1zky, posledn\u00ed dobou sna\u017e\u00edm se ud\u011blat zbrojn\u00ed pr\u016fkaz, m\u00e1m r\u00e1d st\u0159\u00edlen\u00ed, takov\u00e9 r\u016fzn\u00e9 v\u011bci.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor\u00a0
U\u017e jste m\u011bl n\u011bjakou v\u00fdstavu?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
V\u00fdstavu jsem nem\u011bl, asi ani.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
A do \u0161upl\u00edku, fot\u00edte do \u0161upl\u00edku? <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
Kdy\u017e tak do \u0161upl\u00edku a pro radost ano, ano. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
A co ryby jako mysl\u00edm te\u010f. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
Jo, to je \u00fapln\u011b nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u00a0
Ano, to jsme se bavili, \u017ee to je takov\u00e9 nejlep\u0161\u00ed, syn si ud\u011blal ryb\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fd l\u00edstek, a proto\u017ee je\u0161t\u011b nem\u00e1 15, tak s n\u00edm chod\u00edm j\u00e1 na ryby, a to je \u00fa\u017easn\u00e9. U n\u00e1s je takov\u00e1 velk\u00e1 p\u0159ehrada, jmenuje se Slezsk\u00e1 Harta, m\u00e1me tam takov\u00e9 kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 m\u00edsto, r\u00e1no v 5 hodin, kdy\u017e tak za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 pomalu sv\u00edtat a zvedaj\u00ed se mlhy, tak syn chyt\u00e1 ryby, j\u00e1 sleduju, jak chyt\u00e1 ryby a mezit\u00edm m\u00e1m i fo\u0165\u00e1k a fot\u00edm ty stoupaj\u00edc\u00ed mlhy a ten rozb\u0159esk toho rann\u00edho slunka, to je prost\u011b balz\u00e1m na du\u0161i \u00fapln\u011b \u00fa\u017easn\u00fd.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
J\u00e1 m\u00e1m ve sv\u00e9m okol\u00ed n\u011bkolik takov\u00fdch lid\u00ed a vid\u00edm to jejich nad\u0161eni, z toho chyt\u00e1n\u00ed ryb, nev\u00edm, jestli bych to dal, ale l\u00e1k\u00e1 m\u011b to, mo\u017en\u00e1 jednou pojedu s nima anebo s v\u00e1mi se pod\u00edvat. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
Domluv\u00edm se a pojedeme, j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee se, \u017ee si to obl\u00edb\u00edte, opravdu to je to moc, moc p\u011bkn\u00e1 \u010dinnost. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor
Pane \u0159editeli, p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti, pro\u010d se tady setk\u00e1v\u00e1me, jsou zrakov\u011b posti\u017een\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed budou v \u0159\u00edjnu slavit ty sv\u00e9 sv\u011btov\u00e9 dny, co bychom z\u00e1v\u011brem mohli p\u0159\u00e1t zrakov\u011b posti\u017een\u00e9m, je n\u011bco co bychom mohli obzvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 jim v tyto dny p\u0159\u00e1t? <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jan HANU\u0160, \u0159editel Charity Opava
V\u00edte, j\u00e1 v\u017edycky mysl\u00edm, kdy\u017e vid\u00edm zrakov\u011b posti\u017een\u00e9ho, tak mysl\u00edm na to, abysme je vedli, abychom je netla\u010dili, to je takov\u00e1 mal\u00e1 drobnost, ale mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee velice podstatn\u00e1, ono, kdy\u017e chcete n\u011bkoho, kdo nevid\u00ed n\u011bkam v\u00e9st, tak mu nab\u00eddnete r\u00e1m\u011b, bohu\u017eel se velice \u010dasto st\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee ho chytnete tak vzadu a n\u011bkam ho tla\u010d\u00edte, tak\u017ee j\u00e1 bych jim p\u0159\u00e1l, a\u0165 jim nab\u00eddneme r\u00e1m\u011b, a\u0165 je vedem, a\u0165 je netla\u010d\u00edme. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
Rozhovor s \u0159editelem Charity Opava Janem Hanu\u0161em ve studiu \u010cesk\u00e9ho rozhlasu o p\u0159ipravovan\u00fdch dnech sv\u00e1tk\u016f t\u00fdkaj\u00edc\u00edch se nevidom\u00fdch. Zbigniew CZENDLIK, moder\u00e1tor\u00a0ne\u017e jste se stal \u0159editelem […]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1782,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-35103","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35103","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=35103"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35103\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1782"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=35103"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=35103"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=35103"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}