Jak\u00fd je rozd\u00edl mezi t\u00edm, jak \u017eij\u00ed senio\u0159i v D\u00e1nsku a v \u010cesku. Judita Maty\u00e1\u0161ov\u00e1, novin\u00e1\u0159ka a badatelka, byla hostem po\u0159adu \u010cT24. Report\u00e1\u017e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1torka
Pan\u00ed Maty\u00e1\u0161ov\u00e1, jak\u00fd je rozd\u00edl mezi \u017eivotem senior\u016f v D\u00e1nsku a v \u010cesku?
Judita MATY\u00c1\u0160OV\u00c1, novin\u00e1\u0159ka
J\u00e1 bych \u0159ekla, \u017ee ten hlavn\u00ed rozd\u00edl tak, jak tu seniorskou komunitu i celkov\u011b d\u00e1nskou spole\u010dnost vn\u00edm\u00e1m, je hlavn\u011b v tom, \u017ee d\u00e1nsk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost d\u00e1v\u00e1 senior\u016fm velmi v\u00fdrazn\u011b najevo, \u017ee s nimi po\u010d\u00edtaj\u00ed, \u017ee si v\u00e1\u017e\u00ed toho, co senio\u0159i um\u00ed, a ta d\u00e1nsk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost hodn\u011b motivuje seniory, aby se r\u016fzn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem aktivn\u011b zapojovali jako dobrovoln\u00edci. Ta tradice toho dobrovolnictv\u00ed v jak\u00e9mkoliv v\u011bku je tam des\u00edtky let a opravdu je to, \u0159ekla bych, velk\u00fd rozd\u00edl, i co se t\u00fdk\u00e1 m\u00e9di\u00ed, jak d\u00e1nsk\u00e1 m\u00e9dia informuj\u00ed o seniorech.
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moder\u00e1torka
Pr\u00e1v\u011b ten rozd\u00edl ve vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed. J\u00e1 jsem \u010detla n\u011bkolik rozhovor\u016f s v\u00e1mi a vy to relativn\u011b \u010dasto akcentujete. Pro\u010d si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b rozd\u00edl v tom, jak lid\u00e9 vn\u00edmaj\u00ed seniory, je tak velik\u00fd mezi \u010ceskem a D\u00e1nskem?
Judita MATY\u00c1\u0160OV\u00c1,
Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee u n\u00e1s, a bohu\u017eel ta pandemie covidu to je\u0161t\u011b zv\u00fdraznila, je takov\u00fd pohled na seniory i za n\u00e1s novin\u00e1\u0159e mus\u00edm \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee \u010dasto si ten stereotyp n\u011bjak vytv\u00e1\u0159\u00edme sami, a\u0165 u\u017e jsou to \u010dl\u00e1nky, kter\u00e9 se t\u00fdkaj\u00ed nejr\u016fzn\u011bj\u0161\u00edch probl\u00e9m\u016f, \u017ee senio\u0159i maj\u00ed ten \u010di onen probl\u00e9m, je pot\u0159eba jim pom\u00e1hat, co\u017e samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ur\u010dit\u011b je pravda, ale m\u00e1lo se mluv\u00ed nebo p\u00ed\u0161e o aktivn\u00edch seniorech, kter\u00fdch rozhodn\u011b nen\u00ed v \u010cesku m\u00e1lo, a jsou to senio\u0159i, kte\u0159\u00ed t\u0159eba je\u0161t\u011b ani \u017e\u00e1dnou pomoc nepot\u0159ebuj\u00ed, naopak pom\u00e1haj\u00ed ostatn\u00edm. A podobn\u011b je to i se zobrazov\u00e1n\u00edm senior\u016f v na\u0161ich m\u00e9di\u00edch, jsou r\u016fzn\u00e9 stereotypn\u00ed sn\u00edmky, \u017ee senior vypad\u00e1 posmutn\u011ble, moc \u010dasto nev\u00edd\u00e1te obr\u00e1zky senior\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed n\u011bco d\u011blaj\u00ed aktivn\u011b. A v D\u00e1nsku je to opravdu velk\u00fd rozd\u00edl, mo\u017en\u00e1 zas a\u017e takov\u00fd druh\u00fd extr\u00e9m, \u017ee spousta t\u011bch fotografi\u00ed je skoro jak superak\u010dn\u00ed hrdina.
moder\u00e1torka
J\u00e1 jsem dokonce vid\u011bla n\u011bkde n\u011bjakou va\u0161i fotku z D\u00e1nska, kde senio\u0159i stoj\u00ed v oble\u010dc\u00edch superman\u016f, mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee se m\u016f\u017ee ten pohled na seniory v \u010cesku zm\u011bnit sm\u011brem k tomu, jak to vypad\u00e1 v D\u00e1nsku? Na jak dlouhou tra\u0165 je to v \u010cesku b\u011bh?
Judita MATY\u00c1\u0160OV\u00c1
J\u00e1 bych \u0159ekla, \u017ee ten obraz se m\u016f\u017ee zm\u011bnit, kdy\u017e se n\u011bjak rovnom\u011brn\u011b zapoj\u00ed a\u0165 u\u017e m\u00e9dia, tak vrcholn\u00ed politici, ale i obce. Jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem obce komunikuj\u00ed se seniory, jak je motivuj\u00ed, jak je vyb\u00edz\u00ed k tomu, aby n\u011bco spole\u010dn\u011b podnikli. J\u00e1 bych mo\u017en\u00e1 zm\u00ednila, co je v D\u00e1nsku, a u n\u00e1s to nem\u00e1me, ze z\u00e1kona ka\u017ed\u00e1 d\u00e1nsk\u00e1 radnice m\u00e1 tzv. radu star\u0161\u00edch, kter\u00e1 sice nem\u00e1 volebn\u00ed hlas, ale m\u00e1 poradn\u00ed hlas, a ta radnice mus\u00ed zohled\u0148ovat n\u00e1zor star\u0161\u00ed generace. A to je n\u011bco, co je pro D\u00e1ny velmi typick\u00e9, \u017ee jim opravdu hodn\u011b z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom, aby ta ve\u0159ejnost se vyj\u00e1d\u0159ila k r\u016fzn\u00fdm t\u0159eba strategick\u00fdm rozhodnut\u00edm v pl\u00e1nov\u00e1n\u00ed v t\u00e9 konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed obci.
moder\u00e1torka
Na druhou stranu v \u010cesku u\u017e ale vznikaj\u00ed n\u011bkter\u00e9 neziskov\u00e9 organizace, jako je t\u0159eba Elpida, kter\u00e1 po\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1 pravideln\u011b n\u011bjak\u00e9 workshopy a r\u016fzn\u00e9 kurzy pr\u00e1v\u011b pro seniory, a zd\u00e1 se mi, \u017ee je to v \u010cesku \u010d\u00edm d\u00e1l v\u00edc roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Tak mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee kdyby to t\u00edmto tempem tedy pokra\u010dovalo d\u00e1l, \u017ee jednodu\u0161e v \u010cesku m\u016f\u017eeme n\u011bkdy dos\u00e1hnout n\u011b\u010deho podobn\u00e9ho? Nebo D\u00e1nov\u00e9 jsou opravdu v tomto tak specifi\u010dt\u00ed, \u017ee v takov\u00e9 \u00farovni, \u0159ekn\u011bme, to v \u010cesku nem\u016f\u017ee nikdy fungovat?
Judita MATY\u00c1\u0160OV\u00c1,
J\u00e1 jsem moc r\u00e1da, \u017ee t\u011bch d\u00e1nsk\u00fdch spojek tady p\u0159ib\u00fdv\u00e1. Ur\u010dit\u011b bych zm\u00ednila sou\u010dasn\u00e9ho d\u00e1nsk\u00e9ho velvyslance, kter\u00fd si to vzal jako jednu ze sv\u00fdch priorit, zdravotn\u00ed a soci\u00e1ln\u00ed t\u00e9mata, a zaanga\u017eoval nejr\u016fzn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed odborn\u00edky z t\u00e9to oblasti z \u010ceska a zprost\u0159edkov\u00e1v\u00e1 jim kontakty do D\u00e1nska. Vy jste zm\u00ednila Elpidu, Elpida m\u00e1 od lo\u0148ska program, kter\u00fd je inspirovan\u00fd t\u00edm d\u00e1nsk\u00fdm vzorem a sna\u017e\u00ed se o to, aby senio\u0159i nebyli jenom pasivn\u00ed \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edci n\u011bjak\u00fdch p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ek nebo workshop\u016f, ale aby sami p\u0159ich\u00e1zeli s n\u00e1pady, co by cht\u011bli sd\u00edlet s ostatn\u00edmi, a v\u00edc se pod\u00edleli i na organizov\u00e1n\u00ed takov\u00fdchto aktivit. Tak\u017ee ur\u010dit\u011b to p\u0159ib\u00fdv\u00e1 a mysl\u00edm si z m\u00fdch zku\u0161enost\u00ed, kdy jsem se ptala senior\u016f tady v \u010cesku, jestli by m\u011bli z\u00e1jem n\u011bjak se v\u00edc zapojit, tak ten z\u00e1jem je, ale je to p\u0159ece jenom takov\u00e9 pozvoln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Ale co bych zase r\u00e1da zm\u00ednila, co v D\u00e1nsku t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 \u00fapln\u011b chyb\u00ed, jsou nejr\u016fzn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed mezigenera\u010dn\u00ed projekty, kter\u00e9 u nich nemaj\u00ed, ale u n\u00e1s u\u017e je minim\u00e1ln\u011b zhruba t\u0159icetilet\u00e1 tradice r\u016fzn\u00fdch propojov\u00e1n\u00ed od teenager\u016f se seniory nebo i d\u011bti \u0161kolkov\u00e9ho v\u011bku a senio\u0159i. Tak\u017ee to zase v D\u00e1nsku, kdy\u017e jsem popisovala, jak to u n\u00e1s funguje, tak to byli velmi t\u00edm ohromen\u00ed.
moder\u00e1torka
Pokud mo\u017en\u00e1 z\u016fstaneme tedy v D\u00e1nsku, jak tam jsou senio\u0159i obecn\u011b zabezpe\u010den\u00ed? Jak funguje ten jejich d\u016fchodov\u00fd syst\u00e9m a to, jak ve fin\u00e1le tedy funguj\u00ed potom v tom seniorsk\u00e9m v\u011bku?
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Judita MATY\u00c1\u0160OV\u00c1,
Senio\u0159i maj\u00ed opravdu mo\u017enosti, hlavn\u011b ta obec jim zaji\u0161\u0165uje spoustu nejr\u016fzn\u011bj\u0161\u00edch slu\u017eeb, a\u0165 u\u017e jsou to profesion\u00e1ln\u00ed pe\u010dovatel\u00e9, nebo dobrovoln\u00edci, a je maxim\u00e1ln\u00ed snaha o to, aby ten senior byl co nejdel\u0161\u00ed dobu v tom dom\u00e1c\u00edm prost\u0159ed\u00ed. A v tom je t\u0159eba rozd\u00edl oproti \u010cesku, v D\u00e1nsku s\u00e1m ten senior nem\u016f\u017ee se \u00fapln\u011b tak rozhodnout, \u017ee by si podal p\u0159ihl\u00e1\u0161ku do domova pro seniory. Je to v podstat\u011b tak, \u017ee a\u017e kdy\u017e se vy\u010derpaj\u00ed v\u0161echny mo\u017enosti, kter\u00e9 ta obec nab\u00edz\u00ed, a leckdy to je t\u0159eba p\u011bt r\u016fzn\u00fdch lid\u00ed b\u011bhem jednoho dne, kte\u0159\u00ed doch\u00e1z\u00ed pravideln\u011b za t\u00edm seniorem, a jsou to lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed pr\u016fb\u011b\u017en\u011b sleduj\u00ed jeho zdravotn\u00ed stav, tak\u017ee a\u017e teprve, kdy\u017e vyhodnot\u00ed, \u017ee skute\u010dn\u011b nen\u00ed schopen fungovat v tom dom\u00e1c\u00edm prost\u0159ed\u00ed, tak m\u016f\u017eou sepsat tu p\u0159ihl\u00e1\u0161ku a ze z\u00e1kona ta obec mus\u00ed seniorovi zajistit m\u00edsto v domov\u011b do dvou m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f, v Kodani je to dokonce do jednoho m\u011bs\u00edce. A to je tak\u00e9 rozd\u00edl, to na m\u011b dost p\u0159ekvapen\u011b koukali, kdy\u017e jsem jim \u0159\u00edkala, \u017ee v \u010desk\u00fdch domovech je celkem b\u011b\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee m\u00e1te pokoje, kde jsou dva nebo t\u0159i senio\u0159i, kte\u0159\u00ed nijak spolu nesouvis\u00ed, tak v D\u00e1nsku tohle se v podstat\u011b ned\u011bje, tam v\u017edycky je to velk\u00fd d\u016fraz na to soukrom\u00ed, to znamen\u00e1, ten senior bu\u010fto m\u00e1 samostatn\u00fd pokoj, anebo pokud je to p\u00e1r, tak je to pro ten p\u00e1r.
moder\u00e1torka
d\u00edky za v\u00e1\u0161 \u010das a vhled na to, jak to vypad\u00e1 v D\u00e1nsku.
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