{"id":40632,"date":"2023-07-03T05:33:20","date_gmt":"2023-07-03T03:33:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=40632"},"modified":"2023-07-03T05:33:21","modified_gmt":"2023-07-03T03:33:21","slug":"proc-pribyva-deti-s-vadou-reci","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=40632","title":{"rendered":"Pro\u010d p\u0159ib\u00fdv\u00e1 d\u011bt\u00ed s vadou \u0159e\u010di?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u0158e\u010d d\u011bt\u00ed.  Jakou roli hraje nedostate\u010dn\u00fd kontakt a zrychlen\u00e1 doba? Jak vad\u00e1m p\u0159edej\u00edt, zabr\u00e1nit, odstranit je? Jak spr\u00e1vn\u011b u\u010dit, mluvit a vyslovovat a jak\u00fd vliv m\u00e1 na artikulaci elektronika a m\u00e9dia? Tak o tom v\u0161em si  \u010cesk\u00fd rozhlas pov\u00eddal s klinickou logopedkou a p\u0159edsedkyn\u00ed sekce klinick\u00fdch logoped\u016f sdru\u017een\u00ed ambulantn\u00edch specialist\u016f pan\u00ed Vlastou \u0160imkovou. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Je n\u00e1r\u016fst d\u011bt\u00ed s vadou \u0159e\u010di radik\u00e1ln\u00ed?<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1<br \/>Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee n\u011bjak\u00fd n\u00e1r\u016fst \u0159e\u010di rozhodn\u011b, ono to souvis\u00ed se \u017eivotn\u00edm stylem, s dobou, se zp\u016fsobem, jak d\u011bti vychov\u00e1v\u00e1me, jak je u\u010d\u00edme jazyk a taky s prost\u0159ed\u00edm, proto\u017ee dnes mnoho po\u0159ad\u016f t\u0159eba v televizi, v rozhlase, v angli\u010dtin\u011b, tak\u017ee vlastn\u011b setk\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed se i s jin\u00fdmi jazyky, ne\u017e s t\u00edm mate\u0159sk\u00fdm jazykem. Potom jsou to ty tablety, ty chytr\u00e9 mobiln\u00ed telefony, to na d\u011bti p\u016fsob\u00ed a zcela jist\u011b ta, to vyzr\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed prob\u00edh\u00e1 trochu jinak, ne\u017e j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, v minul\u00e9m stolet\u00ed, t\u0159eba, v \u010dem.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Je to jin\u00e9, v \u010dem je to \u0161patn\u011b, \u017ee ty d\u011bti se dost\u00e1vaj\u00ed k t\u011bm tablet\u016fm a mobiln\u00edm telefon\u016fm. Nap\u0159\u00edklad.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>V\u00edme, \u017ee virtu\u00e1ln\u00ed realita je n\u011bco, co pohlcuje jak dosp\u011bl\u00e9, tak d\u011bti, je to n\u011b\u010d\u00edm fascinuj\u00edc\u00ed a u\u017e velmi mal\u00e9 d\u011bti, kter\u00e9 je\u0161t\u011b ani nechod\u00ed. Pokud se dostanou k tomu mobilu, tak velmi rychle t\u00edm pes\u00edkem um\u00ed ovl\u00e1dat. Je to n\u011bco, co neum\u00edme mo\u017en\u00e1 \u00fapln\u011b pojmenovat, ale fascinuje to prost\u011b v\u0161echny, tak\u017ee a i rodi\u010de, tak\u017ee mus\u00edm \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee str\u00e1v\u00edme s t\u011bmito, s t\u011bmito chytr\u00fdmi za\u0159\u00edzen\u00edmi mnohem v\u00edce \u010dasu samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ne\u017e kdykoliv d\u0159\u00edve.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>A jak\u00fd vliv to m\u00e1 na tu artikulaci?<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>To m\u00e1 v\u00fdvoj \u0159e\u010di a u\u010den\u00ed se jazyk\u016f velmi souvis\u00ed s t\u00edm, jak\u00fd kontakt m\u00e1te s t\u00edm druh\u00fdm \u010dlov\u011bkem, kter\u00fd v\u00e1s u\u010d\u00ed ten jazyk, tak\u017ee prvn\u00ed osobou b\u00fdv\u00e1 maminka, tat\u00ednek, prost\u011b to neju\u017e\u0161\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed. No a pokud ten \u010das, kter\u00fd zcela p\u0159irozen\u011b po tis\u00edcilet\u00ed, tak tr\u00e1vilo mal\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b se svou maminkou, je nahrazeno pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u00edm chytr\u00fdm za\u0159\u00edzen\u00edm do zna\u010dn\u00e9 m\u00edry, tak se to d\u00edt\u011b u\u010d\u00ed tomu mate\u0159sk\u00e9mu jazyku podstatn\u011b slo\u017eit\u011bji, jo, a del\u0161\u00ed dobu. A nechci \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee je v\u0161echno \u0161patn\u011b, proto\u017ee mnoho informac\u00ed maj\u00ed dneska d\u011bti, kter\u00e9 dr\u017e\u00edme, d\u011bti nem\u011bly, ale to u\u010den\u00ed se mate\u0159sk\u00e9mu jazyku, to vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed zvuku rytmu, to jsou v\u0161echno velmi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 prvky t\u00e9 \u0159e\u010di, tak to je pot\u0159eba vn\u00edmat o t\u00e9 nejbli\u017e\u0161\u00ed osoby, a to b\u00fdv\u00e1 maminka.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Mo\u017en\u00e1 i ta vizualizace, kdy\u017e se mamince d\u00edv\u00e1me na ty rty, jak se pohybuj\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Proto\u017ee u \u00fapln\u011b mal\u00fdch d\u011bt\u00ed v\u00edte, \u017ee maminka p\u0159irozen\u011b dr\u017e\u00ed vzd\u00e1lenost asi t\u011bch 20 cm toho kojence, pak se mali\u010dko ta vzd\u00e1lenost u\u017e vyh\u0159e\u0161uje. Ale ano, je to ten obli\u010dej a v t\u011bch televiz\u00edch a mobilech leckl\u00ed, mluv\u00ed sk\u0159\u00edn\u011b a j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, stromy, tak\u017ee tam ta mluvidla nevid\u00edte, ale pokud se u\u010d\u00edte ten mate\u0159sk\u00fd jazyk vlastn\u011b od osoby, tak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b je to v\u00edce faktori\u00e1ln\u00ed vliv na v\u00e1s, vid\u00edte, sly\u0161\u00edte, c\u00edt\u00edte, vn\u00edm\u00e1te, jsou tam i hmatov\u00e9, t\u0159eba n\u011bjak\u00e9 vjemy, tak, tak\u017ee je tam, je tam mnohem v\u00edce t\u011bch p\u016fsobnosti vlastn\u011b na d\u00edt\u011b.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>J\u00e1 se do\u010detla, \u017ee za posledn\u00edch 15 let se zv\u00fd\u0161il pod\u00edl d\u011bt\u00ed s vadami \u0159e\u010di \u0161estin\u00e1sobn\u011b, tak\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e9 p\u00e1t\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b m\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00fd probl\u00e9m. Ot\u00e1zkou je, co v\u0161echno se d\u00e1 pova\u017eovat za vadu \u0159e\u010di, toho bude asi tak\u00e9 hodn\u011b.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Ur\u010dit\u011b a ot\u00e1zkou tak\u00e9 je, co pova\u017eujeme za vadu \u0159e\u010di a co vlastn\u011b pova\u017eujeme za nedostate\u010dn\u00e9. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee to m\u011b\u0159\u00edtko, n\u00e1roky na ty d\u011bti se plynule zvy\u0161uj\u00ed, dnes je zcela b\u011b\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee d\u00edt\u011b jde do prvn\u00ed t\u0159\u00eddy a prsty ovl\u00e1daj\u00ed kl\u00e1vesnici. U\u017e v\u011bd\u00ed, kter\u00e1 p\u00edsmenka tam jsou. Jsou b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edpady d\u011bt\u00ed, kter\u00e9 u\u017e p\u0159i vstupu do prvn\u00ed t\u0159\u00eddy ovl\u00e1daj\u00ed po\u010d\u00edt\u00e1n\u00ed do sta. Neum\u00edm si to p\u0159edstavit v m\u00e9 dob\u011b, p\u0159ed t\u011bmi 55 lety v\u016fbec, my jsme se u\u010dili opravdu prvn\u00ed p\u00edsmenko a tak\u017ee jsme ho ve \u0161kole poprv\u00e9 vid\u011bli. Tak\u017ee tohle je zcela jin\u00e9, a proto\u017ee se m\u011bn\u00ed na\u0161e \u017eivotn\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed, m\u011bn\u00ed se na\u0161e podm\u00ednky, tak n\u011bkter\u00e9 slo\u017eky se tro\u0161i\u010dku se jim jaksi ta obt\u00ed\u017enost ub\u00edr\u00e1, dneska d\u011bti fyzicky nepracuj\u00ed, nap\u0159\u00edklad jo, d\u0159\u00edve p\u011btilet\u00e9 d\u011bti u\u017e t\u0159eba pracovaly, tak\u017ee tohle to tam nyn\u00ed, ale na druhou stranu, co p\u016fsob\u00ed na d\u00edt\u011b v t\u00e9 zrakov\u00e9 sluchov\u00e9 rovin\u011b, je obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9, tak\u017ee vlastn\u011b klade to i n\u00e1rok na vysokou znalost toho mate\u0159sk\u00e9ho jazyka v ran\u00e9m v\u011bku, aby d\u00edt\u011b rozum\u011blo, co se kolem n\u011bho d\u011bje.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>A pak je mo\u017en\u00e1 probl\u00e9m to v\u0161echno zprost\u0159edkovat, aby to dalo do t\u011bch slovch.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Aby to t\u0159eba divadlo ano pot\u0159ebuje prost\u011b n\u011bkdy trochu v\u00edce \u010dasu.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>\u0158\u00edk\u00e1 klinick\u00e1 logopedka Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1. Te\u010f u\u017e nab\u00edz\u00edme i telefonn\u00ed kontakt. 726 a t\u0159ikr\u00e1t 46. p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b pokud se chcete na n\u011bco zeptat, zavolejte k n\u00e1m do studia nebo napi\u0161te na studio hradec@rozhlas.cz.Radioporadna \u010cesk\u00e9ho rozhlasu Hradec Kr\u00e1lov\u00e9 je dnes o vad\u00e1ch \u0159e\u010di. Na\u0161\u00edm hostem je klinick\u00e1 logopedka Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1. No a pr\u00e1v\u011b dnes se schvaluje i n\u011bjak\u00e1 novinka, \u00faprava, jste mi \u0159\u00edkala ohledn\u011b \u0161koln\u00edch logoped\u016f. Je to pravda.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b prob\u00edh\u00e1 v sen\u00e1tu debata projedn\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed novely z\u00e1kona o pedagogick\u00fdch pracovn\u00edc\u00edch a jedn\u00edm z t\u00e9mat je pr\u00e1v\u011b z\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed nov\u00e9 pracovn\u00ed pozice, tzv. \u0160kolsk\u00e9ho jako pravda.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>No, vy jste za zast\u00e1nce nebo odp\u016frce takov\u00e9, t\u00e9to pracovn\u00ed pozice. Mohlo by to pomoct d\u011btem?<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>V\u017edycky se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee cesta dotkla, je dl\u00e1\u017ed\u011bna p\u011bkn\u00fdmi, p\u011bkn\u00fdmi kam\u00ednky a tohle to je n\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho. V\u00edte. Pr\u00e1v\u011b proto je klinick\u00e1 logopedie ve zdravotnictv\u00ed a speci\u00e1ln\u00ed pedagogika ve \u0161kolstv\u00ed, ve \u0161kolstv\u00ed u\u010d\u00edmeme a pom\u00e1h\u00e1me z\u00edsk\u00e1vat vzd\u011bl\u00e1n\u00ed ve zdravotnictv\u00ed, l\u00e9\u010d\u00edme, prov\u00e1d\u00edme terapie a napravujeme n\u011bco, co souvis\u00ed se z\u00e1kladn\u00edm onemocn\u011bn\u00edm, sm\u00edchat dv\u011b tak r\u016fzn\u00e1 povol\u00e1n\u00ed, jako je povol\u00e1n\u00ed speci\u00e1ln\u00edho pedagoga, to znamen\u00e1 \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd odpov\u00edd\u00e1 za v\u00fdchovu a vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed a zdravotnick\u00e9ho pracovn\u00edka t\u00edm, \u017ee rozli\u0161\u00edme ty dv\u011b pracovn\u00ed pozice, ty dv\u011b profese pouze p\u0159\u00eddavn\u00fdm jm\u00e9nem klinick\u00fd nebo \u0161kolsk\u00fd, je nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9 a nedostate\u010dn\u00e9.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Uvid\u00edme, jak to dopadne dneska, jestli bude schv\u00e1len nebo neschv\u00e1len. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b j\u00e1 m\u00e1m tro\u0161ku pomoct, pocit tedy, \u017ee ten \u0161koln\u00ed logoped nahrazuje tu pr\u00e1ci, kterou by tro\u0161ku m\u011bli d\u011blat rodi\u010de doma, cvi\u010dit, tr\u00e9novat tu artikulaci, ale asi, kdy\u017e je n\u011bjak\u00fd probl\u00e9m, tak vy osobn\u011b byste doporu\u010dila zaj\u00edt na odborn\u00e9 pracovi\u0161t\u011b za klinick\u00fdm logopedem.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>V\u017edycky, kdy\u017e se u d\u00edt\u011bte objev\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00fd probl\u00e9m s komunikac\u00ed, a to nen\u00ed jenom o v\u00fdslovnosti, skute\u010dn\u011b to m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt plynulost \u0159e\u010di. D\u00edt\u011b se v\u00e1m za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 zadrh\u00e1vat nebo se ten v\u00fdvoj \u0159e\u010di ub\u00edr\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00fdm zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00edm zp\u016fsobem, vid\u00edte, \u017ee d\u00edt\u011b se v\u00e1m ned\u00edv\u00e1 do o\u010d\u00ed, prost\u011b je tam t\u0159eba podez\u0159en\u00ed na autismus a t\u011bch v\u011bc\u00ed je mnoho. D\u011btsk\u00e9 mozkov\u00e9 obrny nap\u0159\u00edklad, tak v\u017edycky je nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ran\u00e1 diagnostika, v\u00edte dob\u0159e, \u017ee kdy\u017e chcete n\u011bco dob\u0159e vyl\u00e9\u010dit, tak pokud nem\u00e1te stanovenou diagn\u00f3zu, tak ani ta l\u00e9\u010dba nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt spr\u00e1vn\u011b nastaven\u00e1, tak\u017ee to je \u00fakol toho klinick\u00e9ho logopeda v podstat\u011b prov\u00e1d\u011bt terapi\u00ed, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ta l\u00e9\u010dba se v\u00e1\u017ee sp\u00ed\u0161 k l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016fm, ale my jsme nel\u00e9ka\u0159i zdravotn\u00edci, tak\u017ee prov\u00e1d\u00edme l\u00e9\u010dbu vad \u0159e\u010di, ve \u0161kole je to jinak tam pro na\u0161e pacienty, kter\u00e9 m\u00e1me v ordinac\u00edch, by m\u011bl ten speci\u00e1ln\u00ed pedagog vytv\u00e1\u0159et ide\u00e1ln\u00ed podm\u00ednky pro v\u00fdchovu a vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, umo\u017enit tedy na\u0161emu pacientovi, \u017e\u00e1kovi ve \u0161kole z\u00edskat vzd\u011bl\u00e1n\u00ed, i kdy\u017e m\u00e1 tu diagn\u00f3zu, kter\u00e1 souvis\u00ed t\u0159eba.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>S \u0159e\u010d\u00ed, tak n\u011bkter\u00fdm d\u011btem by to ale mo\u017en\u00e1 pomohlo. No, uvid\u00edme ka\u017edop\u00e1dn\u011b, jak to v\u0161echno dopadne. M\u00e1me tady dotaz od pan\u00ed Camilly, kter\u00e1 p\u00ed\u0161e d\u00e1 se ka\u017ed\u00e1 vada \u0159e\u010di napravit? P\u00ed\u0161e. V\u00edm, \u017ee nap\u0159\u00edklad koktavost\u00ed trp\u011bl Winston Churchill, Marilyn monro, hlavn\u011b kr\u00e1l Ji\u0159\u00ed \u0161est\u00fd. Koktavost je asi jin\u00e1 kapitola, ne\u017e kdy\u017e d\u00edt\u011b neum\u00ed \u0159\u00edct, ale zaj\u00edmalo by m\u011b, jestli je to opravdu tak, \u017ee p\u00edl\u00ed a spr\u00e1vn\u00fdm nastaven\u00edm mysli je mo\u017en\u00e9 t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 cokoliv.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>To je kr\u00e1sn\u011b \u0159e\u010deno. J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v\u0161e je v hlav\u011b, jak se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, a nap\u0159\u00edklad ta koktavost zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e1, ta pat\u0159\u00ed k takov\u00fdm velmi nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00fdm vad\u00e1m \u0159e\u010di a je to zase komplexn\u00ed z\u00e1le\u017eitost, kter\u00e1 souvis\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b s genetikou, souvis\u00ed i s n\u011bjak\u00fdmi podm\u00ednkami \u017eivotn\u00edmi, s n\u00e1roky, na kter\u00e9 na n\u00e1s jsou kladen\u00e9. A my jako klini\u010dt\u00ed logopedi spolupracujeme s l\u00e9ka\u0159i, tak\u017ee se pokou\u0161\u00edme vlastn\u011b pacientovi d\u00e1t takov\u00e9 vlastn\u011b n\u00e1vody, zp\u016fsoby, u\u010d\u00edme toho pacienta pracovat se sebou tak, aby, p\u0159esto\u017ee neum\u00ed sou\u010dasn\u00e1 medic\u00edna tu koktavost vyl\u00e9\u010dit, tak aby pomoci ur\u010dit\u00fdch strategi\u00ed a technik, ten n\u00e1\u0161 pacient v n\u011bjak\u00e9m v\u011bku, m\u016f\u017ee to b\u00fdt mal\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b, m\u016f\u017ee to b\u00fdt dosp\u011bl\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk, vlastn\u011b s tou diagn\u00f3zou dok\u00e1zal velmi kvalitn\u011b \u017e\u00edt, a to um\u00edme.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Vy pracujete i v nemocnici s d\u011btmi.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Klini\u010dt\u00ed logopedi maj\u00ed velk\u00e9 zastoupen\u00ed v nemocnic\u00edch a v posledn\u00ed dob\u011b se velmi mluv\u00ed i o tom, \u017ee jsou t\u0159eba sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed r\u016fzn\u00fdch t\u00fdm\u016f opera\u010dn\u00edch, proto\u017ee.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>I senio\u0159i po mozkov\u00fdch.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Mrtvic ano, a tam se vlastn\u011b pomoc\u00ed zkou\u0161ek \u0159e\u010di zji\u0161\u0165uje vlastn\u011b, do jak\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti mozku t\u0159eba se zasahuje p\u0159i t\u00e9 operaci a tak\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161\u00edme poruchy polyk\u00e1n\u00ed jak u kojenc\u016f, tak u t\u0159eba u senior\u016f, co\u017e je z\u00e1le\u017eitost, kter\u00e1 se obvykle prov\u00e1d\u00ed na t\u011bch klinik\u00e1ch a vy\u017eaduje zobrazovac\u00ed techniky, aby se pacient vlastn\u011b, aby se mu neubl\u00ed\u017eila.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>M\u00e1te n\u011bjak\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh, kter\u00fd v\u00e1m utkv\u011bl v pam\u011bti n\u011bjak\u00fd se \u0161\u0165astn\u00fdm koncem. Pozitivn\u00ed. Bude jich mo\u017en\u00e1 hodn\u011b.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Hodn\u011b. Ur\u010dit\u011b, j\u00e1 jsem pozitivn\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk, tak\u017ee v\u017edycky v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee \u017eivot to tak n\u011bjak semele, \u017ee v\u017edycky to dob\u0159e nakonec dopadne, tak\u017ee m\u00e1m, ano, m\u011bla jsem t\u0159eba chlapce, kter\u00fd ke mn\u011b p\u0159i\u0161el, byl u\u017e vlastn\u011b ve druh\u00e9 t\u0159\u00edd\u011b a mluvil samohl\u00e1skovou \u0159e\u010d\u00ed, byla tam velk\u00e1 huh\u0148avost, otev\u0159en\u00e1, nefunk\u010dn\u00ed vellum, no a vlastn\u011b to d\u00edt\u011b u\u017e pro\u0161lo n\u011bjakou historii, bylo, bylo ve \u0161kole pro sluchov\u011b\u00a0<strong>posti\u017een\u00e9<\/strong>, tak\u017ee \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b znakovalo, a to chlapec a my jsme vlastn\u011b b\u011bhem dvou let dok\u00e1zali, kdy\u017e se dostal k n\u00e1m do ordinace, tu \u0159e\u010d upravit, tak\u017ee huh\u0148avost byla sice znateln\u00e1, ale soci\u00e1ln\u011b p\u0159ijateln\u00e1. A z hl\u00e1sek jsme se dostali vlastn\u011b celou tou pyramidou a\u017e k tomu kone\u010dn\u00e9mu mo\u0159e, tak\u017ee vlastn\u011b ta klinick\u00e1 logopedie opravdu m\u016f\u017ee pomoct, ale je pot\u0159eba v\u010das.<br \/><br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>V jak\u00e9m v\u011bku by vlastn\u011b d\u011bti m\u011bly m\u00edt ukon\u010den\u00fd ten spr\u00e1vn\u00fd v\u00fdvoj, pokud jsou zdrav\u00e9, tak kdy u\u017e by m\u011bly um\u011bt v\u0161echna p\u00edsmena.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Tak budeme rad\u0161i \u0159\u00edkat hl\u00e1sky, p\u00edsmenka se p\u00ed\u0161\u00ed, hl\u00e1sky vyslovuj\u00ed u\u010den\u00ed mate\u0159sk\u00e9mu jazyku. Jsme \u0159\u00edkali, \u017ee vlastn\u011b je zejm\u00e9na osvojen\u00ed si t\u00e9 zvukov\u00e9 str\u00e1nky, to vtisk\u00e1v\u00e1me velmi brzy a jsou to vlastn\u011b fon\u00e9my, to jsou ty zvuky, kter\u00e9 vytv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed ten mate\u0159sk\u00fd jazyk, tak\u017ee d\u00edt\u011b se nau\u010d\u00ed mluvit kolem zhruba jednoho roku, jsou to m\u00e1ma, t\u00e1ta, n\u011bkde kolem druh\u00e9ho roku jsou to ty jednoduch\u00e9 v\u011bty a kolem t\u0159et\u00edho roku v\u011bku u\u017e d\u011bti um\u00ed se vyjad\u0159ovat o b\u011b\u017en\u00fdch v\u011bcech v rodin\u011b, obvykle jsou ale d\u011bti, kde ten n\u00e1stup \u0159e\u010di m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt opo\u017ed\u011bn\u00fd, a to opo\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt n\u011bjakou organickou p\u0159\u00ed\u010dinu, anebo to m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt prost\u011b to, \u017ee m\u00e1te tak geneticky to babi\u010dka, d\u011bde\u010dek taky. Za\u010daly pozd\u011bji mluvit. Prost\u011b je to n\u011bjak\u00e1 Peci, n\u011bjak\u00e9 specifikum t\u00e9 rodiny a m\u00e1te to v genech. Na tu va\u0161i ot\u00e1zku odpov\u00edm tak, ne\u017e jde d\u00edt\u011b do \u0161koly by m\u011blo m\u00edt zvl\u00e1dnut\u00e9 v\u0161echny hl\u00e1sky, tedy zvuky, kter\u00e9 tvo\u0159\u00ed ten mate\u0159sk\u00fd jazyk. Tak\u017ee okolo \u0161est\u00e9ho roku ano ide\u00e1ln\u011b, ale pokud se to \u00fapln\u011b nestihne, tak je\u0161t\u011b nen\u00ed t\u0159eba panika\u0159it, proto\u017ee fixuje se to a\u017e \u010dten\u00edm.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Te\u010f v\u00e1s popros\u00edm, nasa\u010fte si sluch\u00e1tka, proto\u017ee tady m\u00e1me dotaz, jste v radio poradn\u011b, m\u016f\u017eete se pt\u00e1t, dobr\u00fd den.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Dobr\u00fd den, j\u00e1 se te\u010f chci zeptat, my jsme \u017eili v cizin\u011b a na\u0161e dcera se narodila v Irsku nebo ve \u0160pan\u011blsku, ale pak \u017eila v Irsku, tak\u017ee m\u011bla mate\u0159sk\u00fd jazyk, angli\u010dtinu, ano, a pak jsme asi po \u010dty\u0159ech letech se p\u0159est\u011bhovali do \u0160pan\u011blska a str\u00e1vili n\u011bco m\u00e1lo p\u0159es rok a pak, kdy\u017e jsme se vr\u00e1tili do \u010ceska a vlastn\u011b tu \u010de\u0161tinu moc nem\u011bla, tak se n\u00e1m po n\u011bjak\u00fd dob\u011b za\u010dala zadrh\u00e1vat, ale jako docela hodn\u011b a bylo n\u00e1m, poradili n\u00e1m, \u017ee vlastn\u011b m\u00e1me zkusit vysnout v rodin\u011b ty ciz\u00ed jazyky, proto\u017ee jsme se sna\u017eili n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem udr\u017eovat angli\u010dtina a \u0161pan\u011bl\u0161tina a po \u010dty\u0159ech, p\u011bti m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch se to teda tro\u0161ku se to srovnalo, jestli je mo\u017en\u00fd, \u017ee to bylo t\u011bma t\u0159ema jazykama, z kter\u00e9 to d\u00edt\u011b j\u00ed bylo vlastn\u011b n\u011bjak\u00fdch 66 let, kdy jsme se vr\u00e1tili do \u010ceska.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Jestli nebylo zahlceno, no, nech\u00e1me zareagovat. D\u011bkujeme, d\u011bkujeme za dotaz.Na shledanou. Tak co vy na to?<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Tak dobr\u00fd den k va\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zce. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, \u017ee na u\u010den\u00ed se mate\u0159sk\u00e9mu jazyku je pom\u011brn\u011b slo\u017eit\u00fd proces a ka\u017ed\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b si m\u016f\u017eeme p\u0159edstavit, kdy\u017e se narod\u00ed, je takov\u00fd po\u010d\u00edta\u010d, do kter\u00e9ho vlastn\u011b v\u0161echny ty informace vstupuj\u00ed, v\u011bt\u0161ina d\u011bt\u00ed m\u00e1 mate\u0159sk\u00fd jazyk, jenom jeden, to je ten jazyk, kter\u00fd ovl\u00e1d\u00e1 maminka, tat\u00ednek, babi\u010dka, d\u011bde\u010dek, to neju\u017e\u0161\u00ed okol\u00ed jsou ale d\u011bti a nen\u00ed jich v\u016fbec m\u00e1lo, kter\u00e9 maj\u00ed maminku, t\u0159eba \u010ce\u0161ku a tat\u00ednka, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, Angli\u010dana, N\u011bmce a tam zcela p\u0159irozen\u011b p\u016fsob\u00ed na to d\u00edt\u011b, dva mate\u0159sk\u00e9 jazyky, jsou to dva odd\u011blen\u00e9 syst\u00e9my a ten d\u011btsk\u00fd mozek si s t\u00edm um\u00ed pom\u011brn\u011b dob\u0159e poradit a pokud d\u00edt\u011b nem\u00e1 v genech n\u011bjak\u00e9 oslaben\u00ed, prost\u011b tro\u0161i\u010dku zraniteln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed tu nervovou soustavu, tak se s t\u00edm obvykle vypo\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1 velmi dob\u0159e, vlastn\u011b dostane jako d\u00e1rkem dva jazyky mate\u0159sk\u00e9, co\u017e je velk\u00fd dar, bych \u0159ekla, pokud, ale to nejsou mate\u0159sk\u00e9 jazyky, je to vlastn\u011b jazyk toho n\u011bjak\u00e9ho prost\u0159ed\u00ed, v kter\u00e9m se to d\u00edt\u011b nach\u00e1z\u00ed, a to prost\u0159ed\u00ed se m\u011bn\u00ed, tak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b d\u00edt\u011b se v tom prost\u0159ed\u00ed, kde se nach\u00e1z\u00ed, u\u010d\u00ed ten jazyk, kter\u00fd je kolem n\u011bho. No, u v\u00e1s t\u011bch jazyk\u016f bylo v\u00edce ne\u017e dva dokonce, tak\u017ee ten nervov\u00fd syst\u00e9m va\u0161\u00ed hol\u010di\u010dky jsem pochopila. To mo\u017en\u00e1 v n\u011bjak\u00fd okam\u017eik neust\u00e1l a vlastn\u011b zareagoval t\u00edm, \u017ee se tam objevila koktavost. J\u00e1 bych tady poradila ur\u010dit\u011b nav\u0161t\u00edvit klinick\u00e9ho logopeda a poradit se, jakou strategii zvolit. S\u00e1m jste \u0159ekl, \u017ee t\u00edm, \u017ee jste jeden ten jazyk tro\u0161i\u010dku jaksi uvolnili, netrv\u00e1te na n\u011bm, tak\u017ee se ta situace za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 zlep\u0161ovat. \u0160la bych touhle tou cestou ubrat t\u011bch podn\u011bt\u016f z t\u011bch ciz\u00edch jazyk\u016f a up\u0159ednostnila bych ten jazyk m\u00edstn\u00ed, to znamen\u00e1, kde se te\u010f moment\u00e1ln\u011b to d\u00edt\u011b nach\u00e1z\u00ed, je v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice. Vy jste \u010ce\u0161i. Pochopila jsem, tak\u017ee te\u010f bych tu \u010de\u0161tinu asi.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>Preferovala. Mo\u017en\u00e1 hol\u010di\u010dka, \u017ee to byl takov\u00fd obrann\u00fd mechanismus, ale \u017ee by se to m\u011blo srovnat, tak ur\u010dit\u011b dr\u017e\u00edme palce, dr\u017e\u00edme palce. Mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee se poda\u0159\u00ed sn\u00ed\u017eit po\u010det t\u011bch d\u011bt\u00ed s n\u011bjak\u00fdmi vadami \u0159e\u010di do budoucna, nebo jak to vid\u00edte, va\u0161e p\u0159\u00e1n\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1,<br \/>Tak moje p\u0159\u00e1n\u00ed by bylo, aby d\u011bti obecn\u011b byly zdrav\u00e9 a nem\u011bly v\u016fbec \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 probl\u00e9my. Ot\u00e1zka, do jak\u00e9 m\u00edry se n\u00e1m to m\u016f\u017ee poda\u0159it. Ono ten po\u010det n\u011bjak\u00fdch onemocn\u011bn\u00ed nebo komplikac\u00ed souvis\u00ed s t\u00edm, \u017ee mi v\u00fdborn\u011b, mnohem l\u00e9pe ne\u017e d\u0159\u00edve diagnostikujeme. No, a kdy\u017e n\u011bco hled\u00e1te, najdete, \u017ee mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee d\u011bti se v\u017edycky budou pot\u00fdkat s n\u011bjak\u00fdmi pot\u00ed\u017eemi, ale t\u00edm, \u017ee ten zdravotn\u00ed syst\u00e9m a i \u0161kolstv\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b jsou dob\u0159e, dob\u0159e nastaven\u00e9 a funguj\u00ed a zejm\u00e9na rodina obvykle funguje dob\u0159e, tak je velk\u00e1 \u0161ance, \u017ee v\u0161e bude v po\u0159\u00e1dku.<br \/><br \/>MLUV\u010c\u00cd 1,<br \/>\u0158\u00edk\u00e1 klinick\u00e1 logopedka Vlasta \u0160imkov\u00e1. D\u011bkuju, \u017ee jste si na\u0161la \u010das na poslucha\u010de \u010cesk\u00e9ho rozhlasu Hradec Kr\u00e1lov\u00e9, hodn\u011b \u0161t\u011bst\u00ed, d\u011bkuji.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>\u0158e\u010d d\u011bt\u00ed. Jakou roli hraje nedostate\u010dn\u00fd kontakt a zrychlen\u00e1 doba? Jak vad\u00e1m p\u0159edej\u00edt, zabr\u00e1nit, odstranit je? 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