{"id":44997,"date":"2024-01-11T06:49:48","date_gmt":"2024-01-11T05:49:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=44997"},"modified":"2024-01-11T06:50:07","modified_gmt":"2024-01-11T05:50:07","slug":"predsedkyne-rady-senioru-lenka-desatova-k-jednani-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=44997","title":{"rendered":"P\u0159edsedkyn\u011b rady senior\u016f Lenka Desatov\u00e1 k jedn\u00e1n\u00ed \u00daS"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u010cT24<br \/>V \u010cesku \u017eij\u00ed aktu\u00e1ln\u011b skoro 3 miliony senior\u016f, d\u016fchodc\u016f, jejich po\u010det tak od za\u010d\u00e1tku mil\u00e9nia v\u00fdznamn\u011b narostl, jak vid\u00edte na grafu za mnou. Podle statistik\u016f bude \u010cesko st\u00e1rnout \u010d\u00edm d\u00e1l v\u00edce. Do p\u016flky stolet\u00ed bude t\u0159etina spole\u010dnosti star\u0161\u00ed 65 let. A jak u\u017e jsme zm\u00ednili, pr\u016fm\u011brn\u011b lid\u00e9 pob\u00edraj\u00ed d\u016fchod kolem 20 000 K\u010d, nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed po\u010det penzist\u016f ale dost\u00e1v\u00e1 od st\u00e1tu ka\u017ed\u00fd m\u011bs\u00edc d\u016fchod v rozmez\u00ed 18 a 19 000 K\u010d. Jejich v\u00edc ne\u017e 280 000. Skoro 10 000 lid\u00ed potom mus\u00ed vy\u017e\u00edt s d\u016fchodem do 5 000 K\u010d. A 50 d\u016fchodc\u016fm vypl\u00e1c\u00ed st\u00e1t v\u00edc ne\u017e 70 000 K\u010d m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b. P\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Rady senior\u016f Lenka Desatov\u00e1, n\u00e1\u0161 dal\u0161\u00ed host. Dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<br \/><br \/>U\u017e i v report\u00e1\u017ei jsme vid\u011bli, \u017ee v Brn\u011b to dne\u0161n\u00ed jedn\u00e1n\u00ed \u00dastavn\u00edho soudu sledovaly des\u00edtky senior\u016f. Co to vypov\u00edd\u00e1 o tom, jak z\u00e1sadn\u00ed pro penzisty toto rozhodov\u00e1n\u00ed \u00fastavn\u00edch soudc\u016f je?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, Rada senior\u016f \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak bezesporu nejzaj\u00edmav\u011bj\u0161\u00ed bude sledovat, jak \u00dastavn\u00ed soud rozhodne a seniory to zaj\u00edm\u00e1 vzhledem k t\u00e9 komunikaci, kter\u00e1 prob\u00edhala, kdy v podstat\u011b je\u0161t\u011b v listopadu, v prosinci byli uji\u0161\u0165ov\u00e1ni, \u017ee pokud bude mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e1 valorizace, \u017ee prob\u011bhne. A v \u00fanoru bylo v\u0161echno jinak.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>P\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1m, \u017ee i vy jste dnes se minim\u00e1ln\u011b v online report\u00e1\u017ei sledovala.<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, <br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>My jsme tam m\u011bli pana prof. Pot\u016f\u010dka osobn\u011b.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V\u00e1s n\u011bco z toho, co dnes u \u00dastavn\u00edho soudu zazn\u011blo, zaujalo, nadzdvihlo ze \u017eidle, nebo dostala jste n\u011bjak\u00e9 vysv\u011btlen\u00ed?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, <br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak zat\u00edm z m\u00e9ho hlediska sp\u00ed\u0161 rozpa\u010dit\u00e9. My jsme \u010dekali, \u017ee p\u0159ece jenom ten \u00dastavn\u00ed soud bude, lidov\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, tro\u0161ku v\u00edc grilovat ministry, \u017ee bude mo\u017en\u00e1 tro\u0161ku tvrd\u0161\u00ed, \u017ee p\u016fjde v n\u011bjak\u00fdch vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00edch je\u0161t\u011b v\u00edc do hloubky. Ale na druhou stranu se n\u00e1m l\u00edbilo, \u017ee to v podstat\u011b nebylo jednostrann\u00e9, jenom si poslechneme a sly\u0161eli jsme argumenty, kter\u00e9 zazn\u011bly n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t, u\u017e nem\u00e1me dopl\u0148uj\u00edc\u00ed ot\u00e1zky, to tam nebylo.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak ale m\u00ed\u0159ili p\u0159ece do \u010dern\u00e9ho. Mohla, nebo nemohla vl\u00e1da v\u011bd\u011bt, \u017ee inflace vzroste v\u00edce, ot\u00e1zka, kterou jsme prob\u00edrali p\u0159ed chv\u00edl\u00ed. Pro\u010d se v\u00fdrazn\u011bji nesleduje d\u016fchodcovsk\u00e1 inflace? A dal\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zky, hrozily nebo nehrozily mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9 \u0161kody st\u00e1tu? To jsou p\u0159ece ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 trefovaly do \u010dern\u00e9ho nebo ne?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, Rada senior\u016f \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ur\u010dit\u011b, ale p\u0159ece jenom mysl\u00edme si, \u017ee mohly b\u00fdt je\u0161t\u011b, je\u0161t\u011b tro\u0161ku tvrd\u0161\u00ed, ale na druhou stranu nep\u0159i\u0161lo n\u00e1m to skute\u010dn\u011b \u0161patn\u00e9, tak\u017ee, popravd\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, o\u010dek\u00e1vali jsme, \u017ee u\u017e dnes padne rozsudek. Tak.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Zhor\u0161ila nebo nezhor\u0161ila ta ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed valorizace penz\u00ed \u017eivotn\u00ed \u00farove\u0148 podstatn\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti tuzemsk\u00fdch senior\u016f?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, <br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A tak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, \u017ee zhor\u0161ila, nebudeme si \u0159\u00edkat, \u017ee ne, proto\u017ee v\u00edte stejn\u011b dob\u0159e jako j\u00e1, \u017ee v\u00edc ne\u017e 50 % senior\u016f na pr\u016fm\u011brnou penze nedos\u00e1hne a my se neust\u00e1le bav\u00edme o pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 penzi, ale v podstat\u011b to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee v\u00edce ne\u017e 50 % penzist\u016f nedostane ani ten pr\u016fm\u011br a t\u011bm se bezesporu ta \u017eivotn\u00ed \u00farove\u0148 zhor\u0161ila.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Kdy\u017e budeme mluvit o tom pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9m d\u016fchodu, tak tam ten pokles za ty m\u011bs\u00edce od \u010dervna do konce roku d\u011bl\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00fdch 7 500 korun. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b\u00a0<strong>ministr<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>pr\u00e1ce<\/strong>\u00a0a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed u \u00dastavn\u00edho soudu dnes tvrdil, \u017ee pro vl\u00e1du bylo kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00e9 zachovat kupn\u00ed s\u00edlu d\u016fchodc\u016f. Bylo?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak vid\u011bli jsme v\u0161ichni, co d\u011blaly ceny v uplynul\u00e9m roce a spot\u0159ebn\u00ed ko\u0161 senior\u016f se sleduje pr\u00e1v\u011b proto, \u017ee senio\u0159i pat\u0159\u00ed k obyvatel\u016fm, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed tro\u0161ku jin\u00e9 zvyky n\u00e1kupn\u00ed, nezaj\u00edm\u00e1 je t\u0159eba tolik spot\u0159ebn\u00ed elektronika, co\u017e ostatn\u011b dod\u00e1vaj\u00ed i \u010d\u00edsla o vybavenosti seniorsk\u00fdch dom\u00e1cnost\u00ed, t\u0159eba WiFi nebo IT technikou, ale daleko v\u00edce investuj\u00ed do l\u00e9k\u016f. A my jsme nezaznamenali, \u017ee by ty l\u00e9ky n\u011bjak stagnovaly nebo se zlev\u0148ovaly, tak\u017ee asi to je odpov\u011b\u010f.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>My jsme se u\u017e opakovan\u011b spolu bavili o tom a zm\u00ednili jsme to taky p\u0159ed chv\u00edl\u00ed, \u017ee ten nov\u00fd vzore\u010dek nepatrn\u011b, ale p\u0159ece jenom o n\u011bco zv\u00fd\u0161il penze u t\u011bch \u00fapln\u011b nejni\u017e\u0161\u00edch penz\u00ed, v sou\u010dtu t\u011bch m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f to ud\u011blalo, tu\u0161\u00edm, dev\u011bt stovek, to zd\u016fraz\u0148oval takt\u00e9\u017e Marian Jure\u010dka, v tomto tedy m\u011bl pravdu, p\u0159ipust\u00edte, \u017ee toto byl spr\u00e1vn\u00fd krok?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, Rada senior\u016f \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ano, ano, je to, je to spr\u00e1vn\u00fd krok. A koneckonc\u016f my jsme byli ti, kte\u0159\u00ed u\u017e loni v b\u0159eznu upozor\u0148ovali na to, \u017ee s nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed pravd\u011bpodobnost\u00ed minim\u00e1ln\u011b je\u0161t\u011b jedna mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e1 valorizace nastane a \u017ee bychom byli velmi r\u00e1di, kdyby do\u0161lo ke zm\u011bn\u011b mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00fdch valorizac\u00ed, proto\u017ee tak, jak byla nastavena, a nikoho z toho nevin\u00edme, proto\u017ee p\u0159ed x lety, kdy k t\u00e9 z\u00e1konn\u00e9 \u00faprav\u011b do\u0161lo, nikoho nenapadlo, \u017ee bude inflace tak dlouh\u00e1 a tak vysok\u00e1, aby k tomu institutu mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9 valorizace bylo p\u0159istoupeno n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t, tak jsme upozor\u0148ovali na to, \u017ee mezi t\u011bmi n\u00edzkop\u0159\u00edjmov\u00fdmi a vysokop\u0159\u00edjmov\u00fdmi seniory tento model, jak byl navr\u017een, ne\u00fam\u011brn\u011b rozev\u00edral n\u016f\u017eky. A celkem ch\u00e1pu nebo jsme pochopili i snahu ministerstva financ\u00ed, aby ka\u017ed\u00e1 ta mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e1 valorizace nem\u011bla vliv i na dal\u0161\u00ed valorizace, v tom smyslu jsme celkem ch\u00e1pali i tu modelaci t\u00e9 mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9 d\u00e1vky. A koneckonc\u016f to, \u017ee se m\u00e1 rozd\u011blit na dv\u011b \u010d\u00e1sti, byl i jeden z na\u0161ich n\u00e1vrh\u016f, se kter\u00fdmi jsme \u0161li. To, s \u010d\u00edm se neztoto\u017e\u0148ujeme, je, \u017ee ta inflace tam nen\u00ed vykompenzov\u00e1na ze 100 %, ale jinak ten n\u00e1vrh pova\u017eujeme za celkem spr\u00e1vn\u00fd, nicm\u00e9n\u011b my jsme na to upozor\u0148ovali vb\u0159eznu, v dubnu, tak\u017ee z na\u0161eho hlediska bylo dostatek \u010dasu vymodelovat jin\u00fd p\u0159\u00edpad pro p\u0159\u00edpad mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9 inflace a dostatek \u010dasu to ve sn\u011bmovn\u011b schv\u00e1lit.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A to je ta oblast, ke kter\u00e1 taky sm\u011b\u0159ovaly ty dne\u0161n\u00ed dotazy. Jako p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Rady senior\u016f, v\u011b\u0159\u00edte, \u017ee \u00dastavn\u00ed soud tuto kauzu rozhodne nestrann\u011b, nez\u00e1visle, apoliticky \u010di na z\u00e1klad\u011b v\u011bcn\u00fdch a \u00fastavn\u011bpr\u00e1vn\u00edch argument\u016f?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, <br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, jinak bysme si nemohli myslet, \u017ee jsme v pr\u00e1vn\u00edm st\u00e1t\u011b.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A senio\u0159i jsou p\u0159ipraveni, v\u00edm, \u017ee nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9 pau\u0161alizovat, a p\u0159esto p\u0159ijmout jak\u00e9koliv rozhodnut\u00ed \u00dastavn\u00edho soudu?<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, Rada senior\u016f \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V\u00edte, j\u00e1 se tro\u0161ku ob\u00e1v\u00e1m, \u017ee senio\u0159i jsou p\u0159esn\u011b odrazem dne\u0161n\u00edspole\u010dnosti, ato, kdy\u017e jsme sledovali n\u011bjak\u00e9 t\u0159askav\u00e9 kauzy, takse v\u017edycky na\u0161la \u010d\u00e1stlid\u00ed, kter\u00e1 za\u010dala zpochyb\u0148ovat pr\u00e1v\u011b nestrannost soudu, kdy\u017e nezazn\u011bl ten rozsudek, jak oni si p\u0159edstavovali. Mali\u010dko m\u00e1me ten pocit, kdy\u017e o tom vedeme debaty, \u017ee se tro\u0161ku zam\u011b\u0148uje pojem anarchie a demokracie, prost\u011b sch\u00e1z\u00ed ta v\u016fle p\u0159ijmout ten opa\u010dn\u00fd n\u00e1zor, by\u0165 s n\u00edm nesouhlas\u00edm.<br \/><br \/>Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00c1CLAVEK, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Kdy\u017e se znovu obloukem vr\u00e1t\u00edm k t\u00e9 form\u011b, to, \u017ee \u00dastavn\u00ed soud na\u0159\u00eddil to ve\u0159ejn\u00e9 jedn\u00e1n\u00ed, c\u00edt\u00edte v tom snahu \u00dastavn\u00edho soudu zd\u016fraznit v\u00fdznam toho rozhodov\u00e1n\u00ed, ale taky mo\u017en\u00e1 p\u0159edej\u00edt tomu, o \u010dem jste tady mluvila.<br \/><br \/>Lenka DESATOV\u00c1, <br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>P\u0159esn\u011b tak.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Lenka Desatov\u00e1, d\u011bkuji, \u017ee jste p\u0159i\u0161la. P\u0159eju hezk\u00fd ve\u010der.<br \/><br \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>\u010cT24V \u010cesku \u017eij\u00ed aktu\u00e1ln\u011b skoro 3 miliony senior\u016f, d\u016fchodc\u016f, jejich po\u010det tak od za\u010d\u00e1tku mil\u00e9nia v\u00fdznamn\u011b narostl, jak vid\u00edte na grafu za mnou. 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