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Zat\u00edmco \u010d\u00e1st \u010desk\u00e9 populace kritizuje fakt, \u017ee digitalizace v \u010cesku postupuje p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 pomalu, jin\u00ed ob\u010dan\u00e9 maj\u00ed opa\u010dn\u00fd n\u00e1zor. Nap\u0159\u00edklad \u010de\u0161t\u00ed senio\u0159i se boj\u00ed n\u00e1siln\u00e9 digitalizace. Minul\u00fd t\u00fdden to v po\u0159adu Devades\u00e1tka prohl\u00e1sila p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b rady senior\u016f Lenka Desatov\u00e1. Podle n\u00ed se digitalizuje p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 rychle, co\u017e u \u0159ady d\u016fchodc\u016f p\u0159isp\u00edv\u00e1 k pocitu vy\u010dlen\u011bn\u00ed ze sou\u010dasn\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti.
Lenka Desatov\u00e1, p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, Rada senior\u016f \u010cR
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A oni se c\u00edt\u00ed b\u00fdt odstrkov\u00e1ni na okraj, proto\u017ee \u010d\u00e1st z nich prost\u011b si cestou k digitalizaci v\u016fbec nena\u0161la, \u010d\u00e1st z nich m\u00e1 tro\u0161ku obavy nebo se boj\u00ed, zda zvl\u00e1dne v\u0161echno. Chod\u00ed mi tam maily, po\u010d\u00ednaje slevov\u00fdmi aplikacemi obchodn\u00edch \u0159et\u011bzc\u016f. Naposledy i aplikace zdravotn\u00edch poji\u0161\u0165oven, kde je mo\u017en\u00e9 pod\u00e1vat si \u017e\u00e1dosti o benefity. Tak\u00e9 je to mo\u017en\u00e9 pouze aplikac\u00ed. A senior\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed nemaj\u00ed chytr\u00fd telefon, je v\u011bt\u0161ina po\u0159\u00e1d je\u0161t\u011b. A dokonce ani 48 % seniorsk\u00fdch dom\u00e1cnost\u00ed nem\u00e1 doma ani po\u010d\u00edta\u010d, ani internet.
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Sen\u00e1tor Zden\u011bk Hraba, v\u00edtejte, dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.
Vy pat\u0159\u00edte, pane sen\u00e1tore, k t\u011bm, kte\u0159\u00ed navrhuj\u00ed v \u00fastavn\u00ed rovin\u011b zakotvit ono pr\u00e1vo b\u00fdt offline, nebo nemuset vyu\u017e\u00edvat digit\u00e1ln\u00ed technologie. Krom obav senior\u016fm, o kter\u00fdch jsme te\u010f sly\u0161eli z \u00fast Lenky Desatov\u00e9, kter\u00e9 dal\u0161\u00ed d\u016fvody v\u00e1s k tomu vedou?
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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Tak m\u011b k tomu vedou p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm re\u00e1ln\u00e9 obavy z toho, \u017ee m\u016f\u017eou nastat situace, krizov\u00e9 situace, kdy prost\u011b ty jedni\u010dky a nuly digit\u00e1ln\u00ed fungovat nebudou. Nemus\u00ed se jednat jenom o v\u00e1lku. M\u016f\u017ee se jednat o n\u011bjakou elektromagnetickou bou\u0159i a podobn\u011b, nebo o blackout. Kdy prost\u011b mus\u00ed okam\u017eit\u011b nasko\u010dit z\u00e1lo\u017en\u00ed varianta, kter\u00e1 bude fungovat, zjednodu\u0161en\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, v re\u017eimu tu\u017eka, pap\u00edr. Kdy prost\u011b bude mo\u017en\u00e9 d\u00e1l v\u00e9st b\u011b\u017enou agendu v nouzov\u00e9m re\u017eimu. A pokud p\u0159ijdeme o tuto variantu, tak si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to velmi nezodpov\u011bdn\u00e9.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Na druhou stranu sly\u0161eli jsme p\u0159ed chv\u00edl\u00ed vicepremi\u00e9ra Ivana Barto\u0161e \u0159\u00edkat, digitalizace mus\u00ed b\u00fdt dobrovoln\u00e1. To v\u00e1m nesta\u010d\u00ed?
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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Ur\u010dit\u011b, digitalizace mus\u00ed b\u00fdt dobrovoln\u00e1. J\u00e1 se ob\u00e1v\u00e1m, \u017ee pokud to bude zakotveno pouze v b\u011b\u017en\u00fdch z\u00e1konech, kter\u00e9 jsou zm\u011bniteln\u00e9 pouze Poslaneckou sn\u011bmovnou, tedy pouhou v\u011bt\u0161inou v Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovn\u011b a n\u011bjak zafixov\u00e1ny v \u010desk\u00e9m pr\u00e1vn\u00edm \u0159\u00e1du. Tak se m\u016f\u017ee snadno st\u00e1t, \u017ee n\u011bkter\u00e9 agendy prost\u011b budou pln\u011b digitalizov\u00e1ny bez ohledu t\u0159eba na z\u00e1jmy, opr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00e9 z\u00e1jmy senior\u016f. Kdy\u017e si vzpomeneme, \u017ee v podstat\u011b digitalizov\u00e1no nebo digitalizaci ovl\u00e1d\u00e1, digit\u00e1ln\u00ed technologie ovl\u00e1d\u00e1 60 % na\u0161\u00ed populace. Tak je to pro t\u011bch zb\u00fdvaj\u00edc\u00edch 40 % velk\u00fd probl\u00e9m a mus\u00ed se prost\u011b respektovat i mo\u017enosti t\u00e9to skupiny obyvatel.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Listina z\u00e1kladn\u00edch pr\u00e1v a svobod je takov\u00fdm klenotem na\u0161eho \u00fastavn\u00edho po\u0159\u00e1dku. P\u0159i v\u0161\u00ed \u00fact\u011b k t\u011bm argument\u016fm, o kter\u00fdch jste te\u010f mluvil. Nen\u00ed v\u016fbec s\u00e1hnout do Listiny z\u00e1kladn\u00edch pr\u00e1v a svobod, co\u017e je podle \u0159ady \u00fastavn\u00edch pr\u00e1vn\u00edk\u016f diskutabiln\u00ed. Nen\u00ed to zaplevelen\u00ed Listiny z\u00e1kladn\u00edch pr\u00e1v a svobod?
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ne. Listina je dokument, kter\u00fd je velmi rigidn\u00ed, velmi tuh\u00fd v tom pr\u00e1vnick\u00e9m \u017eargonu \u0159e\u010deno, kter\u00fd se m\u011bn\u00ed velmi obt\u00ed\u017en\u011b a jenom velmi z\u0159\u00eddka. M\u011bnil se dvakr\u00e1t. Jednou se prodlu\u017eoval, tedy mo\u017enost doba zadr\u017een\u00ed a jednou se zaneslo tedy pr\u00e1vo br\u00e1nit se i se zbran\u00ed. Tak\u017ee se nem\u011bn\u00ed v\u016fbec \u010dasto. Za t\u011bch posledn\u00edch 30 let to bylo pouze dvakr\u00e1t. A kdy\u017e si vzpomeneme, \u017ee \u017eijeme v dob\u011b, kter\u00e1 se prudce technologicky m\u011bn\u00ed, um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence b\u011bhem n\u011bkolika m\u00e1lo m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f, kdy\u017e to vzt\u00e1hneme na ty m\u011bs\u00edce, prom\u011bnila sv\u011btovou sf\u00e9ru v\u016fbec spole\u010dnost, nejenom tedy v Evrop\u011b, ale samoz\u0159ejm\u011b i u n\u00e1s v \u010cech\u00e1ch. Tak je pot\u0159eba na to reagovat. A ten pr\u00e1vn\u00ed syst\u00e9m na to mus\u00ed b\u00fdt n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem p\u0159ipraven. A mus\u00ed, znovu opakuji, j\u00e1 jsem p\u0159\u00edznivec digitalizace. J\u00e1 jsem si ob\u010danku digit\u00e1ln\u00ed st\u00e1hl hned, jak to \u0161lo. Syna jsem p\u0159ihla\u0161oval p\u0159es Dipsy k p\u0159ij\u00edma\u010dk\u00e1m na st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161koly. Tak\u017ee jako j\u00e1 proti digitalizaci jako takov\u00e9 v\u016fbec nic nem\u00e1m a fand\u00edm j\u00ed. Ale je pot\u0159eba b\u00fdt p\u0159ipraven i na ty krizov\u00e9 sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159e.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Ano, p\u0159i v\u0161\u00ed \u00fact\u011b, nen\u00ed to touha po star\u00fdch \u010dasech, kter\u00e9 se u\u017e nevr\u00e1t\u00ed? Tlak, protitlak proti n\u011b\u010demu, co stejn\u011b nem\u016f\u017eete zvr\u00e1tit? Nebyla by ta cesta jin\u00e1, nej\u00edt cestou zakotven\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9ho pr\u00e1va, ale cestou pomoci t\u011bm, kter\u00fdm nejsou digit\u00e1ln\u00ed technologie bl\u00edzk\u00e9. Mysl\u00edm pomoci st\u00e1tu p\u0159i ovl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch technologi\u00ed nebo p\u0159i pod\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch \u017e\u00e1dost\u00ed. Jednodu\u0161e konstruktivn\u00ed cesta, kter\u00e1 by nep\u0159edstavovala bari\u00e9ru v postupu digitalizace.
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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Ur\u010dit\u011b, tohle je povinnost\u00ed st\u00e1tu a tam by m\u011bl st\u00e1t investovat nemal\u00e9 pen\u00edze na to, aby ob\u010dan\u00e9 zvl\u00e1dli prost\u011b novou dobu, nov\u00e9 technologie, to, co p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed. A nem\u00e1 smysl se br\u00e1nit nov\u00fdm v\u011bcem, kter\u00e9 jsou jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed v kone\u010dn\u00e9m efektu pohodln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Bankovnictv\u00ed a dal\u0161\u00ed v\u011bci, kter\u00e9 jsou dnes b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 pro v\u00fdraznou \u010d\u00e1st populace v mobilu. Ur\u010dit\u011b, tomu by se st\u00e1t nem\u011bl br\u00e1nit. Nem\u011bl by tomu h\u00e1zet klacky pod nohy. Ale je pot\u0159eba b\u00fdt obez\u0159etn\u00fd, proto\u017ee skute\u010dn\u011b m\u016f\u017eou nastat situace, kdy ten syst\u00e9m fungovat nebude. M\u016f\u017eou existovat situace, kdy prost\u011b bude blackout, kter\u00fd je ot\u00e1zkou \u010dasu, jak \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed i odborn\u00edci. A potom prost\u011b t\u0159eba v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b hotovosti nebude nic jin\u00e9ho, ne\u017e ta hotovost k placen\u00ed.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Pro\u010d nev\u011b\u0159\u00edte tomu, \u017ee st\u00e1t na tyto situace prost\u011b bude p\u0159ipraven\u00fd tak \u010di onak, navzdory postupuj\u00edc\u00ed digitalizaci?
S blackouty a podobn\u011b.
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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Zrovna v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b toho blackoutu bych se nerad nedo\u010dkal p\u0159\u00edd\u011blov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu l\u00edstk\u016f, proto\u017ee nic jin\u00e9ho by nezb\u00fdvalo.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Bav\u00edme se o digitalizaci. Ch\u00e1pu, \u017ee to souvis\u00ed s t\u00edm t\u00e9matem hotovosti. Ale to, pros\u00edm, nechme b\u00fdt. Pro\u010d nev\u011b\u0159\u00edte tomu, \u017ee st\u00e1t p\u0159es plnou digitalizaci bude m\u00edt v\u017edy z\u00e1lo\u017en\u00ed \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed pro ty p\u0159\u00edpady, kter\u00e9 jste popsal?
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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Listina mus\u00ed b\u00fdt dokument, kter\u00fd fixuje n\u011bjak\u00e9 z\u00e1kladn\u00ed, n\u011bjak\u00e1 z\u00e1kladn\u00ed pr\u00e1va, kter\u00e1 lid\u00e9 maj\u00ed, kter\u00e1 jsou nezm\u011bniteln\u00e1, o kter\u00e9 je mo\u017en\u00e9 se op\u0159\u00edt. Nucen\u00e9 pr\u00e1ce nebo v\u011bzen\u00ed pro dluhy tak\u00e9 nehroz\u00ed, a p\u0159esto jsou Listiny z\u00e1kladn\u00edch pr\u00e1v svobod zakotveny, \u017ee to prost\u011b nep\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed do \u00favahy. A mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee takhle nad\u010dasov\u011b by ta listina m\u011bla b\u00fdt koncipov\u00e1na.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Nen\u00ed to vych\u00fdlen\u00ed z\u00e1jmu jednotlivce nad z\u00e1jmem celku? Proto\u017ee z\u00e1jmem celku je, aby digitalizace postupovala co nejrychleji, proto\u017ee sv\u011bt se globalizuje, digitalizuje a pokud chceme jako st\u00e1t a spole\u010dnost usp\u011bt, tak tomu mus\u00edme j\u00edt vst\u0159\u00edc, nikoliv proti tomu.
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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J\u00e1 se p\u0159izn\u00e1m, \u017ee z\u00e1jem jednotlivce je navz\u00e1jem spole\u010dnosti, proto\u017ee definov\u00e1n\u00ed z\u00e1jmu \/souzvuk zvuk\u016f\/.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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\u00dastavn\u00ed soud, tak to je p\u0159ece n\u011bco, co vyd\u00e1val na misky vah. Tak nevychyluje to ty misky vah p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 ve prosp\u011bch z\u00e1jmu, jenom ur\u010dit\u00e1, relativn\u011b men\u0161\u00ed \u010d\u00e1sti spole\u010dnosti. \u0158\u00edk\u00e1, j\u00e1 jsem \u0159\u00edkal jednotlivce v neprosp\u011bch celku. Jednodu\u0161e, pokud by to \u00dastavn\u00ed soud posuzoval, jako \u017ee by to neposuzoval, proto\u017ee tady je ta \u00fastavn\u00ed rovina, \u017ee by to bylo to vych\u00fdlen\u00ed?
Zden\u011bk Hraba,
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J\u00e1 si nemysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to v neprosp\u011bch celku. Je to prost\u011b zachov\u00e1n\u00ed pr\u00e1v t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed nem\u016f\u017eou nebo z n\u011bjak\u00fdch d\u016fvod\u016f nejsou schopni se digit\u00e1ln\u011b orientovat, digit\u00e1ln\u011b \u017e\u00edt. Mo\u017en\u00e1 jedin\u00fd p\u0159\u00edpad, kter\u00fd m\u011b napad\u00e1, kter\u00fd by teoreticky p\u0159ich\u00e1zel do \u00favahy, je doru\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed t\u0159eba soudn\u00edch rozhodnut\u00ed do digit\u00e1ln\u00edch, do datov\u00fdch schr\u00e1nek. A pokud by nem\u011bli v\u0161ichni ob\u010dan\u00e9, ale to je po\u0159\u00e1d je\u0161t\u011b dobrovoln\u00e1 v\u011bc. A jaksi povinn\u00e9 z\u0159izov\u00e1n\u00ed datov\u00fdch schr\u00e1nek tak, aby se t\u0159eba zrychlilo doru\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed, tak to nen\u00ed v\u011bc\u00ed dne\u0161ka. Na\u0161t\u011bst\u00ed m\u011blo by to b\u00fdt v\u017edycky dobrovoln\u00e9.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Velk\u00fdm argumentem nebo takovou obavou z digitalizace je zneu\u017eit\u00ed osobn\u00edch dat. Kdy\u017e se ale bav\u00edme o kontaktu se st\u00e1tem, tak nen\u00ed to u\u017e pozdn\u00ed pl\u00e1\u010d i s ohledem k tomu, co p\u0159ed chv\u00edl\u00ed \u0159\u00edkal vicepremi\u00e9r Ivan Barto\u0161? St\u00e1t prost\u011b ty osobn\u00ed \u00fadaje jednoho ka\u017ed\u00e9ho z n\u00e1s v t\u00e9 digit\u00e1ln\u00ed podob\u011b m\u00e1. A\u0165 se tomu budeme cht\u00edt vzep\u0159\u00edt, nebo ne.
Zden\u011bk Hraba, \u010dlen \u00fastavn\u011b-pr\u00e1vn\u00edho v\u00fdboru, Sen\u00e1t, \u010dlen sen\u00e1torsk\u00e9ho klubu ODS a TOP 09 \/nestr.\/
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J\u00e1 si nemysl\u00edm, \u017ee tam hroz\u00ed zneu\u017eit\u00ed ze strany st\u00e1tu. Ale pokud bude ve\u0161ker\u00e1 agenda p\u0159evedena do digit\u00e1ln\u00ed podoby, tak u\u017e v dne\u0161n\u00ed podob\u011b, dne\u0161n\u00ed dob\u011b jsou digit\u00e1ln\u00ed \u0161mejdi, kte\u0159\u00ed se maskuj\u00ed jako instituce a l\u00e1kaj\u00ed z ob\u010dan\u016f data. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee pokud by se to roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159ilo, tak by toho zneu\u017e\u00edval pr\u00e1v\u011b ten kyberzlo\u010din k z\u00edsk\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed dat t\u0159eba o bankovn\u00edch kart\u00e1ch a podobn\u011b. Proto\u017ee by ti lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed to neum\u00ed pou\u017e\u00edvat nebo z n\u011bjak\u00e9ho d\u016fvodu nejsou schopni prost\u011b pou\u017e\u00edvat museli. A u\u017e dnes se velmi snadno zam\u011b\u0148uj\u00ed n\u011bkter\u00e9 str\u00e1nky a byli by na tom jenom biti.
Ji\u0159\u00ed V\u00e1clavek, moder\u00e1tor
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Ka\u017edop\u00e1dn\u011b to bude je\u0161t\u011b velk\u00e1 zaj\u00edmav\u00e1 debata. Pane sen\u00e1tore, d\u011bkuji, \u017ee jste p\u0159i\u0161el, Zden\u011bk Hraba, p\u011bkn\u00fd ve\u010der.
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