{"id":47788,"date":"2024-04-08T05:51:00","date_gmt":"2024-04-08T03:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=47788"},"modified":"2024-04-08T05:51:01","modified_gmt":"2024-04-08T03:51:01","slug":"spory-okolo-vysledku-jednani-o-penzich","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=47788","title":{"rendered":"Spory okolo v\u00fdsledk\u016f jedn\u00e1n\u00ed o penz\u00edch\u00a0\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u010cT 24<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br \/>Prezident Petr Pavel se ohradil proti v\u00fdrok\u016fm \u0161\u00e9fa ANO Andreje Babi\u0161e, kter\u00fd ve st\u0159edu v p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvku na soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edti prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee jeho hnut\u00ed je z\u00e1sadn\u011b proti zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed v\u011bku odchodu do d\u016fchodu. Prezident si stoj\u00ed za t\u00edm, \u017ee spole\u010dn\u011b se z\u00e1stupci koalice a opozice na\u0161li v tomto ohledu shodu.\u00a0<strong>Ministr<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>pr\u00e1ce<\/strong>\u00a0Marian Jure\u010dka o penzijn\u00ed reform\u011b d\u0159\u00edve jednal se z\u00e1stupci hnut\u00ed ANO. Pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu Schillerov\u00e1 ale po jedn\u00e1n\u00ed uvedla, \u017ee shoda se zat\u00edm nena\u0161la a po ministerstvu chce v\u00edce podklad\u016f.<br \/><br \/>Petr Pavel, prezident republiky<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Shodli jsme se i na tom, \u017ee v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu se bude muset v budoucnosti prodlu\u017eovat.<br \/><br \/>Andrej BABI\u0160, p\u0159edseda hnut\u00ed \/ANO\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V\u00e1\u017een\u00ed spoluob\u010dan\u00e9, p\u00ed\u0161ete mi a pt\u00e1te se, jestli je pravda, \u017ee hnut\u00ed ANO souhlas\u00ed s nav\u00fd\u0161en\u00edm v\u011bku odchodu do d\u016fchodu. A j\u00e1 \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee to nen\u00ed pravda. Je to le\u017e. Hnut\u00ed ANO nikdy v minulosti nesouhlasilo s nav\u00fd\u0161en\u00edm v\u011bku odchodu do d\u016fchodu ani dnes nesouhlas\u00ed a ani nikdy nebude souhlasit. Pan prezident na tiskov\u00e9 konferenci tvrdil, \u017ee tam je n\u011bjak\u00e1 shoda. Asi tam do\u0161lo k n\u011bjak\u00e9mu nedorozum\u011bn\u00ed, proto\u017ee pan\u00ed Schillerov\u00e1 i pan Havl\u00ed\u010dek to n\u00e1sledn\u011b vyvraceli.<br \/><br \/>osoba , Kancel\u00e1\u0159 prezidenta republiky<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Vzhledem ke koment\u00e1\u0159\u016fm hnut\u00ed ANO k v\u00fdsledk\u016fm jedn\u00e1n\u00ed na Hrad\u011b k d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reform\u011b pova\u017eujeme za z\u00e1sadn\u00ed sd\u011blit, \u017ee u stolu spolu Alenou Schillerovou a Karlem Havl\u00ed\u010dkem bylo celkem 15 lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed obsah jedn\u00e1n\u00ed sly\u0161eli. A v\u0161echno, co n\u00e1sledn\u011b padlo na tiskov\u00e9 konferenci, bylo s \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edky na jedn\u00e1n\u00ed dohodnuto a odsouhlaseno. Tuto tiskovou konferenci si m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159ehr\u00e1t ka\u017ed\u00fd.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pan\u00ed Zl\u00e1malov\u00e1, jsou takov\u00e9 sch\u016fzky tedy k n\u011b\u010demu, kdy\u017e se akt\u00e9\u0159i nedok\u00e1\u017e\u00ed shodnout ani na tom, jestli se na n\u011b\u010dem shodli?<br \/><br \/>Lenka Zl\u00e1malov\u00e1, hlavn\u00ed koment\u00e1torka, Czech News Center<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak nejsou. Andrej Babi\u0161 nebude nikdy souhlasit s \u017e\u00e1dnou \u00fapravou d\u016fchod\u016f. Nebude s n\u00ed souhlasit proto, \u017ee je to nepopul\u00e1rn\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ani kdyby byl ve vl\u00e1d\u011b?<br \/><br \/>Lenka Zl\u00e1malov\u00e1, hlavn\u00ed koment\u00e1torka, Czech News Center<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, \u017ee ne. Jako kdy\u017e jste vid\u011bla, co se d\u011blo ve vl\u00e1d\u011b. Ten d\u016fchodov\u00fd v\u011bk toti\u017e se postupn\u011b m\u011bl posouvat st\u00e1le donekone\u010dna, za t\u011bch 65 let. A kdy\u017e vl\u00e1dl Andrej Babi\u0161, Martin Kom\u00e1rek v t\u00e9 dob\u011b sed\u011bl v Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovn\u011b.<br \/><br \/>Martin Kom\u00e1rek, \u0161\u00e9fkoment\u00e1tor, Den\u00edk<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne, ne, to je zase dal\u0161\u00ed omyl. J\u00e1 jsem nesed\u011bl v Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovn\u011b, kdy\u017e vl\u00e1dl Andrej Babi\u0161. J\u00e1 jsem sed\u011bl v Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovn\u011b, kdy\u017e byl pouh\u00fd ministrem financ\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>Lenka Zl\u00e1malov\u00e1, hlavn\u00ed koment\u00e1torka, Czech News Center<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, toto se stalo v t\u00e9to vl\u00e1d\u011b, co se stalo ve vl\u00e1d\u011b se soci\u00e1ln\u00ed demokraci\u00ed, Martine, kdy\u017e jsi byl ve sn\u011bmovn\u011b. A prost\u011b to zru\u0161ili, proto\u017ee v\u00edte co, sta\u010d\u00ed se pod\u00edvat do \u010d\u00edsel. A tam je jasn\u011b vid\u011bt, kdo vol\u00ed Andreje Babi\u0161e. Jsou to lid\u00e9 star\u0161\u00edch generac\u00ed v d\u016fchodov\u00e9m v\u011bku, kter\u00fdch u\u017e se to net\u00fdk\u00e1. Proto cel\u00e1 ta show kolem valorizac\u00ed a pak lid\u00e9 v p\u0159edd\u016fchodov\u00e9m v\u011bku. Andrej Babi\u0161 by \u0161el proti z\u00e1jmu sv\u00fdch voli\u010d\u016f. J\u00e1 to pova\u017euju za \u00fapln\u011b vylou\u010den\u00e9. A vlastn\u011b se div\u00edm, \u017ee se tyhle hry neust\u00e1le hraj\u00ed. J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee koalice m\u00e1 108. M\u00e1 to protla\u010dit 108. A mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee kdyby n\u00e1hodou vl\u00e1dl Andrej Babi\u0161, \u017ee si na to netroufne s\u00e1hnout.<br \/><br \/>Martin Kom\u00e1rek, \u0161\u00e9fkoment\u00e1tor, Den\u00edk<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>J\u00e1 mysl\u00edm ale, \u017ee jsme tady se jako tro\u0161ku odd\u00e1lili od toho paradoxu. \u017de na jednu stranu prezident Petr Pavel \u0159ekne, \u017ee se shodli. A j\u00e1 mu v\u011b\u0159\u00edm. Na druhou stranu to pak pan\u00ed Schillerov\u00e1 a pan Babi\u0161 pop\u0159ou, \/souzvuk zvuk\u016f\/. Pr\u00e1v\u011b to chci \u0159\u00edct. Ono to ob\u010das m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt tak \/souzvuk zvuk\u016f\/ hypot\u00e9za. A za\u017eil jsem to n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t, kolegov\u00e9 taky, \u017ee na n\u011bjak\u00e9m zased\u00e1n\u00ed se politici n\u011bjak shodnou, \u017ee n\u011bjak v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b tajn\u011b, proto\u017ee v\u011bt\u0161ina v\u011bc\u00ed ve\u0159ejnost moc nesleduje. Protla\u010d\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9 opat\u0159en\u00ed, ale pak se mo\u017en\u00e1 i dohodnou, \u017ee bude povoleno \u010d\u00e1sti z nich, \u0159\u00edci sv\u00fdm voli\u010d\u016fm, \u017ee to bylo jinak. Jo, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, je to, je to jenom hypot\u00e9za, ale j\u00e1 prost\u011b si nemysl\u00edm, \u017ee prezident Pavel by \u0159\u00edkal nesmysly. Druh\u00e1 hypot\u00e9za mo\u017en\u00e1 je, \u017ee se opravdu shodli a pak to teda v hnut\u00ed ANO, ne Babi\u0161, ale Schillerov\u00e1 a Havl\u00ed\u010dek vzali zp\u00e1tky, proto\u017ee Babi\u0161 tam nebyl.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pane Fischere, p\u0159\u00edmo na t\u00e9 tiskov\u00e9 konferenci se hnut\u00ed ANO neohradilo. Alena Schillerov\u00e1 pak a\u017e po t\u00e9 tiskov\u00e9 konferenci \u0159ekla, \u017ee nejprve cht\u011bj\u00ed zn\u00e1t data. Ale tak to v\u00fdrazn\u011b promluvil Andrej Babi\u0161 a\u017e za n\u011bjakou dobu. \u010c\u00edm vy si vysv\u011btlujete to d\u011bn\u00ed?<br \/><br \/>Petr Fischer, koment\u00e1tor, T\u00fdden\u00edk Euro<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Prost\u011b standardn\u00ed postup. No, proto\u017ee se to nehod\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b do toho volebn\u00edho sch\u00e9matu. Jako \u0159\u00edkat lidem, \u017ee budou muset d\u00e9le pracovat a podobn\u011b. Ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 ANO chce vytv\u00e1\u0159et dojem jako n\u011bjak\u00e9 konstruktivn\u00ed opozice, kter\u00e1 se o t\u011bch v\u011bcech bav\u00ed. Proto p\u0159ijde na takov\u00e9to jedn\u00e1n\u00ed. A z\u00e1rove\u0148 nazna\u010d\u00ed, \u017ee ano, ten syst\u00e9m slo\u017eit\u00fd. M\u011bli bychom ale m\u00edt k tomu data, jak \u0159ekla pan\u00ed Schillerov\u00e1. Ale obecn\u011b si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee skute\u010dn\u011b tam padl souhlas s t\u00edm. A j\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v\u0161ichni politici, kte\u0159\u00ed se d\u016fchodovou politikou jako zaob\u00edraj\u00ed v hnut\u00ed ANO. Tak ty v\u011bd\u00ed, \u017ee ten syst\u00e9m je dlouhodob\u011b neudr\u017eiteln\u00fd. Tak\u017ee zkr\u00e1tka n\u011bjak\u00fd posun tam b\u00fdt mus\u00ed. A \u017ee asi takov\u00e1hle obecn\u00e1 jako shoda tam byla. A z toho potom vyplynulo to vystoupen\u00ed pana prezidenta. A pak vid\u00edme, jak se toho chopil Andrej Babi\u0161. A vlastn\u011b p\u0159epsal d\u011bjiny sv\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem, jak on to um\u00ed. Je mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011b, a\u017e se zase sejdou a dojde k n\u011bjak\u00e9mu jako posunu, tak zase bude \u0159\u00edkat n\u011bco \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00e9ho. Tak\u017ee tam je vid\u011bt, \u017ee prost\u011b ANO v tomto pozici nem\u00e1. Jedinou pozici, kterou m\u00e1, nem\u016f\u017eeme na\u0161im voli\u010d\u016fm zvy\u0161ovat v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu a podm\u00ednky d\u016fchodov\u00e9. Naopak chceme jim je zlep\u0161ovat. Ale \u00fapln\u011b bych nesouhlasil, proto\u017ee tady ty voli\u010di, je to voli\u010dsk\u00e1 skupina. Je te\u010fka p\u0159ece, to jsme my, nebo jako 50 plus. Jako lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u016fjdou do toho d\u016fchodu, proto\u017ee t\u011bm se to je\u0161t\u011b posune, jo. Tak\u017ee vlastn\u011b Andrej Babi\u0161 te\u010f nebojuje o ty voli\u010de, kte\u0159\u00ed u\u017e v tom d\u016fchodu jsou, tam si mysl\u00edm.<br \/><br \/>Lenka Zl\u00e1malov\u00e1, hlavn\u00ed koment\u00e1torka, Czech News Center<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Je to jasn\u00e9, ale on m\u00e1 i v tom p\u0159edd\u016fchodov\u00e9m v\u011bku, m\u00e1 hodn\u011b. Pak je pot\u0159eba sledovat ta data. A hlavn\u011b to n\u011bco vypov\u00edd\u00e1 o hnut\u00ed ANO. Tam vid\u00edte, \u017ee pan Havl\u00ed\u010dek s pan\u00ed Schillerovou v z\u00e1sad\u011b nem\u00e1 cenu poslouchat. Co \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed, pak zavol\u00e1, takhle p\u00edskne Andrej Babi\u0161. Tam nikdo jin\u00fd nerozhoduje \/souzvuk zvuk\u016f\/.<br \/><br \/> moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Co toto vypov\u00edd\u00e1 o Petru Pavlovi, jako\u017eto moder\u00e1torovi t\u011bchto sch\u016fzek, pane Kom\u00e1rku?<br \/><br \/>Martin Kom\u00e1rek, \u0161\u00e9fkoment\u00e1tor, Den\u00edk<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ta sch\u016fzka prost\u011b p\u0159i\u0161la pozd\u011b. Minim\u00e1ln\u011b o rok pozd\u011bji, ne\u017e m\u011bla p\u0159ij\u00edt, proto\u017ee de facto ta reforma u\u017e je naps\u00e1na. Petr Pavel, pokud m\u011bl moderovat penzijn\u00ed reformu, tak m\u011bl za\u010d\u00edt ihned po zvolen\u00ed do sv\u00e9 funkce. J\u00e1 ten pokus na posledn\u00ed chv\u00edli samoz\u0159ejm\u011b oce\u0148uju. A mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee Petr Pavel je dobr\u00fd moder\u00e1tor spole\u010densk\u00fdch diskuz\u00ed. Ale jak u\u017e \u0159\u00edkala Lenka, tohle to u\u017e je na nic \/souzvuk zvuk\u016f\/.<br \/><br \/>Petr Fischer, koment\u00e1tor, T\u00fdden\u00edk Euro<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V tomhle p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee m\u011bl b\u00fdt v\u00fdstup dohodnut\u00fd. Tak\u017ee se m\u011blo \u0159\u00edct, m\u00e1me t\u0159i v\u011bty, kter\u00e9 \u0159ekne, budeme d\u00e1l jednat. Shodli jsme se na tomto, nebo neshodli.<br \/><br \/>Lenka Zl\u00e1malov\u00e1, hlavn\u00ed koment\u00e1torka, Czech News Center<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Jsme o jeden parametr.<br \/><br \/>Kl\u00e1ra RADILOV\u00c1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Budeme sledovat dal\u0161\u00ed sch\u016fzky.<br \/><br \/>Petr Fischer, koment\u00e1tor, T\u00fdden\u00edk Euro<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to je ot\u00e1zka ale t\u011bch politick\u00fdch poradc\u016f, kter\u00fd u toho t\u0159eba byli. Kte\u0159\u00ed mohli \u0159\u00edct, ano, poj\u010fme z toho ud\u011blat v\u00fdstup, p\u016fjdeme na spole\u010dnou \/souzvuk zvuk\u016f\/.<br \/><br \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>\u010cT 24 Prezident Petr Pavel se ohradil proti v\u00fdrok\u016fm \u0161\u00e9fa ANO Andreje Babi\u0161e, kter\u00fd ve st\u0159edu v p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvku na soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edti prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee jeho hnut\u00ed <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=47788\" title=\"Spory okolo v\u00fdsledk\u016f jedn\u00e1n\u00ed o penz\u00edch\u00a0\u00a0\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":13966,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47788","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politika"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47788","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=47788"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47788\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/13966"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=47788"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=47788"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=47788"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}