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Prezident Petr Pavel se bude nad\u00e1le sna\u017eit zprost\u0159edkovat jedn\u00e1n\u00ed o d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reform\u011b. Ozn\u00e1mil to po dne\u0161n\u00edm odpoledn\u00edm setk\u00e1n\u00ed se z\u00e1stupci ministerstva pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed. Toho se p\u016fvodn\u011b m\u011bli z\u00fa\u010dastnit i z\u00e1stupci hnut\u00ed ANO, ti ale minul\u00fd t\u00fdden svou \u00fa\u010dast zru\u0161ili.\u00a0Ministr<\/strong>\u00a0pr\u00e1ce<\/strong>\u00a0a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed Marian Jure\u010dka z KDU-\u010cSL po jedn\u00e1n\u00ed s prezidentem ozn\u00e1mil, \u017ee n\u00e1vrh d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reformy d\u00e1 vl\u00e1d\u011b 30. dubna, sn\u011bmovna by ji podle Jure\u010dky mohla projednat o pr\u00e1zdnin\u00e1ch, sen\u00e1t potom v z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed nebo v \u0159\u00edjnu. My u\u017e jsme ve spojen\u00ed s poradcem prezidenta Petra Pavla, s hlavn\u00edm ekonomem spole\u010dnosti Deloitte a tak\u00e9 \u010dlenem n\u00e1rodn\u00ed ekonomick\u00e9 rady vl\u00e1dy Davidem Markem, dobr\u00fd den. Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l\u00a0 Prezident Petr Pavel se bude nad\u00e1le sna\u017eit zprost\u0159edkovat jedn\u00e1n\u00ed o d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reform\u011b. Ozn\u00e1mil to po dne\u0161n\u00edm odpoledn\u00edm setk\u00e1n\u00ed se z\u00e1stupci ministerstva pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch […]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5657,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-48358","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-zpravy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48358","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=48358"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48358\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/5657"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=48358"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=48358"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=48358"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
Podle pana prezidenta byla t\u00e9matem toho dne\u0161n\u00edho odpoledn\u00edho jedn\u00e1n\u00ed data z aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed zpr\u00e1vy o stavu d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu, co z t\u011bch dat vypl\u00fdv\u00e1?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Ano, \u0161lo o materi\u00e1l, kter\u00fd si vy\u017e\u00e1dalo hnut\u00ed ANO, aby se mohlo diskutovat na z\u00e1klad\u011b t\u011bch nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00edch odhad\u016f v\u00fdvoje d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu, kter\u00e1 zahrnuj\u00ed aktualizaci demografick\u00e9 progn\u00f3zy z lo\u0148sk\u00e9ho roku. A diskutovali jsme tedy alespo\u0148 s panem m\u00edstop\u0159edsedou vl\u00e1dy a s panem prezidentem to, co je asi pro m\u011b nejz\u00e1sadn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed sd\u011blen\u00ed t\u00e9 aktualizovan\u00e9 zpr\u00e1vy o v\u00fdvoji d\u016fchodov\u00e9m syst\u00e9mu, je, \u017ee se n\u00e1m demografie zlep\u0161ila, zlep\u0161ila v tom smyslu, \u017ee se budeme do\u017e\u00edvat patrn\u011b d\u00e9le, ne\u017e o\u010dek\u00e1vala ta p\u0159edchoz\u00ed progn\u00f3za, co\u017e je ale z pohledu d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu bohu\u017eel \u0161patn\u011b, proto\u017ee to znamen\u00e1 v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed z\u00e1t\u011b\u017e pro d\u016fchodov\u00fd syst\u00e9m, pokud lid\u00e9 budou \u017e\u00edt d\u00e9le, budou pob\u00edrat d\u016fchody, znamen\u00e1 to za jinak stejn\u00fdch podm\u00ednek hlub\u0161\u00ed schodky ne\u017e p\u0159i p\u0159edchoz\u00ed demografick\u00e9 progn\u00f3ze, tak\u017ee to bylo asi to z\u00e1sadn\u00ed. Druh\u00e1 z\u00e1sadn\u00ed v\u011bc potom je, \u017ee vlastn\u011b ta nov\u00e1 projekce d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu ukazuje u\u017e vliv. A v loni p\u0159ijat\u00fdch opat\u0159en\u00ed d\u016fchodov\u00fd syst\u00e9m. Zjednodu\u0161en\u011b vlastn\u011b v\u0161echny ty vlivy dohromady, kter\u00e9 jsem jmenoval, povedou k tomu, \u017ee p\u0159ev\u00e1\u017e\u00ed ty dosavadn\u00ed reformn\u00ed \u00fasil\u00ed vl\u00e1dy a m\u00edsto, aby ty schodky kolem roku 2060 vrcholily na 5 % hrub\u00e9ho dom\u00e1c\u00edho produktu, pak to bude na necel\u00fdch t\u0159ech procentech HDP.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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O kolik d\u00e9le bychom podle t\u00e9 aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed progn\u00f3zy m\u011bli \u017e\u00edt?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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To se m\u011b neptejte na takov\u00fd detaily.
moder\u00e1tor
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J\u00e1 jsem sp\u00ed\u0161 myslel, jestli je to z\u00e1sadn\u00ed prodlou\u017een\u00ed v \u0159\u00e1du let nebo v \u0159\u00e1du m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Z\u00e1sadn\u00ed to nen\u00ed, ale je to posun t\u00edm pro d\u016fchodov\u00fd syst\u00e9m v\u00edce zat\u011b\u017euj\u00edc\u00edm sm\u011brem, tak\u017ee je to dob\u0159e pro lidi, ale je to \u0161patn\u011b ten rozpo\u010det.
moder\u00e1tor
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Pan prezident po tom dne\u0161n\u00edm jedn\u00e1n\u00ed \u0159ekl, \u017ee se nevzd\u00e1v\u00e1 a \u017ee se bude d\u00e1l sna\u017eit zprost\u0159edkov\u00e1vat jedn\u00e1n\u00ed o d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reform\u011b, mluvil t\u0159eba o kulat\u00e9m stole se z\u00e1stupci tripartity a s odborn\u00edky. Mluvili jste je\u0161t\u011b o n\u011bjak\u00fdch mo\u017enostech, jak tu debatu d\u00e1l v\u00e9st?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Tak prim\u00e1rn\u011b po\u0159\u00e1d plat\u00ed, \u017ee dve\u0159e na hrad jsou pro z\u00e1stupce hnut\u00ed ANO st\u00e1le otev\u0159en\u00e9, proto vlastn\u011b na tom dne\u0161n\u00edm jedn\u00e1n\u00ed z\u016fstaly neobsazen\u00e9 \u017eidle, kter\u00e9 \u010dekali na pozvan\u00e9 \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edky. Tak\u017ee ta diskuze nen\u00ed pro ty, kdo budou cht\u00edt, nen\u00ed uzav\u0159en\u00e1, maj\u00ed kdykoliv otev\u0159en\u00e9 dve\u0159e se do t\u00e9 debaty op\u011bt zapojit. Jinak se te\u010f posouv\u00e1me do roviny, kdy bychom cht\u011bli, aby se ty z\u00e1kladn\u00ed v\u011bci diskutovali v\u00edce i mezi \u0161ir\u0161\u00ed laickou ve\u0159ejnost\u00ed tak, aby to bylo potom i, doufejme, sn\u00e1ze pochopiteln\u00e9 pro ka\u017ed\u00e9ho z n\u00e1s, ono n\u011bkdy se v t\u011bch term\u00ednech oby\u010dejn\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk m\u016f\u017ee ztr\u00e1cet a je velmi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, aby tomu ka\u017ed\u00fd rozum\u011bl, aby se na z\u00e1klad\u011b toho mohl rozhodnout t\u0159eba i v p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edch volb\u00e1ch.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Hnut\u00ed ANO od\u016fvodnilo tu svou dne\u0161n\u00ed ne\u00fa\u010dast t\u00edm, \u017ee p\u0159edstavitel\u00e9 vl\u00e1dy opakovan\u011b \u0159ekli, \u017ee reformu penz\u00ed prosad\u00ed, nehled\u011b na n\u00e1zor opozice. Mluvil dnes pan prezident s panem Jure\u010dkou, i o tom je v\u016fle na stran\u011b vl\u00e1dn\u00ed koalice ten n\u00e1vrh reformy upravit t\u0159eba na z\u00e1klad\u011b toho chystan\u00e9ho kulat\u00e9ho stolu?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Ano, po\u0159\u00e1d, st\u00e1le je mo\u017enost n\u011bkter\u00e9 v\u011bci zm\u011bnit, v\u00edme o n\u011bkter\u00fdch parametrech, kter\u00e9 se daj\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b diskutovat, a ta mo\u017enost je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b potom i otev\u0159en\u00e1 po projedn\u00e1n\u00ed ve vl\u00e1d\u011b, respektive mezi prvn\u00edm a druh\u00fdm \u010dten\u00edm parlamentu. Tak\u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u0159eba i tento odborn\u00fd panel, kde budou demografov\u00e9, ekonomov\u00e9, kde u\u017e z \u0159ady odborn\u00edk\u016f k n\u00e1m dostali relevantn\u00ed pozn\u00e1mky, relevantn\u00ed podn\u011bty k zamy\u0161len\u00ed nad ur\u010dit\u00fdmi detaily toho d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu. A byla by \u0161koda nevyu\u017eit\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti. A necht\u011bli je vlastn\u011b do t\u00e9 sou\u010dasn\u00e9 reformy.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Kter\u00e9 v\u011bci z va\u0161eho pohledu by bylo rozumn\u00e9 upravit?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Takov\u00fd detail nebo takov\u00fd p\u0159\u00edklad. M\u016f\u017eeme se bavit o tom, jak bude vlastn\u011b definovan\u00e1 d\u00e9lka penze, jestli to bude n\u011bjak\u00e1 fixn\u00ed hodnota 21 nebo 21,5, roku, nebo jestli se vr\u00e1t\u00edme k definici, \u017ee by to m\u011bla b\u00fdt zhruba \u010dtvrtina \u017eivota nebo od toho o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9ho, t\u00e9 o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9 Nad\u011b do\u017eit\u00ed, tak\u017ee to je t\u0159eba jeden z takov\u00fdch detail\u016f. On se m\u016f\u017ee zd\u00e1t b\u00fdt mo\u017en\u00e1 pro n\u011bkoho ned\u016fle\u017eit\u00fd, ale v posledku to m\u016f\u017ee v pr\u016fb\u011bhu, dvou let nebo v pr\u016fb\u011bhu let za\u010d\u00edt hr\u00e1t docela d\u016fle\u017eitou roli.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Tahle zm\u011bna t\u0159eba, o kter\u00e9 jste mluvil podle t\u011bch demografick\u00fdch studi\u00ed, by vedla ke zpomalen\u00ed nebo ke zrychlen\u00ed toho r\u016fstu v\u011bku. Pro odchod do d\u016fchodu?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Tahle ta zm\u011bna, kter\u00e1 mn\u011b osobn\u011b t\u0159eba p\u0159ijde spravedliv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, transparentn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed a vlastn\u011b i spravedliv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed nap\u0159\u00ed\u010d generacemi, je z\u00e1rove\u0148, a to je nutno dodat, o n\u011bco m\u00e9n\u011b p\u0159\u00edzniv\u00e1 finan\u010dn\u011b, byla by v\u00edce zat\u011b\u017euj\u00edc\u00ed a st\u00e1tn\u00ed rozpo\u010det, ale ne zase o tolik, abychom nezv\u00e1\u017eili ten argument t\u00e9 genera\u010dn\u00ed spravedlnosti.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Vy jste byl na tom dne\u0161n\u00edm setk\u00e1n\u00ed, i na tom minul\u00e9m setk\u00e1n\u00ed, kter\u00e9ho se je\u0161t\u011b z\u00fa\u010dastnili politici z hnut\u00ed ANO. M\u016f\u017eete potvrdit to, o \u010dem dnes mluvil pan prezident, tedy, \u017ee byla dohoda, \u017ee hnut\u00ed ANO po\u0161le do 7. dubna podklady pro to dal\u0161\u00ed jedn\u00e1n\u00ed a \u017ee tak hnut\u00ed ANO neu\u010dinilo?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Bylo to tak. Hnut\u00ed ANO si samo vy\u017e\u00e1dalo n\u011bkter\u00e9 podklady, od druh\u00e9 strany samo sl\u00edbilo dodat n\u011bkter\u00e9 materi\u00e1ly a nep\u0159i\u0161lo v\u016fbec nic, vlastn\u011b v\u0161ichni ostatn\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed se zav\u00e1zali k tomu dodat n\u011bjak\u00e9 podklady, vy\u017e\u00e1dan\u00e9 podklady, sv\u00e9 \u00fakoly splnili a z t\u00e9to jedn\u00e9 strany nep\u0159i\u0161lo v\u016fbec nic.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Ministr Jure\u010dka po tom dne\u0161n\u00edm jedn\u00e1n\u00ed \u0159ekl, \u017ee vl\u00e1d\u011b n\u00e1vrh penzijn\u00ed reformy nebo zm\u011bn d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu p\u0159edlo\u017e\u00ed 30. dubna. O pr\u00e1zdnin\u00e1ch o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee n\u00e1vrh projedn\u00e1 sn\u011bmovna. Nem\u011bl by v tom p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b ten kulat\u00fd st\u016fl, o kter\u00e9m mluvil pan prezident, \u017ee by ho o\u010dek\u00e1val na p\u0159elomu kv\u011btna a \u010dervna? Nem\u011bl by b\u00fdt d\u0159\u00edv, t\u0159eba je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ed t\u00edm jedn\u00e1n\u00edm vl\u00e1dy?
David MAREK, ekonom, Deloitte
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Potom ot\u00e1zka nab\u00edz\u00ed v podstat\u011b dv\u011b mo\u017enosti, bu\u010f, aby byl opravdu d\u0159\u00edve a nebo naopak, aby byl potom mezi druh\u00fdm a t\u0159et\u00edm \u010dten\u00edm, aby byl sp\u00ed\u0161e v z\u00e1v\u011bru pr\u00e1zdnin, respektive na za\u010d\u00e1tku z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed a tady se je\u0161t\u011b pan prezident nerozhodl, kter\u00fd z t\u011bch dvou term\u00edn\u016f bude vhodn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Ono na druhou stranu, \u010d\u00edm vlastn\u011b budeme potom v t\u00e9 diskuzi, v t\u00e9 politick\u00e9 diskuzi d\u00e1le, tak t\u00edm v\u00edce budeme v\u011bd\u011bt, kde jsou ty hlavn\u00ed body st\u0159etu, kde ten hlavn\u00ed nesoulad, kde jsou ty argumenty pro a proti a budeme na n\u011b moci i v t\u00e9 odborn\u00e9 \u00farovni potom reagovat, to by hr\u00e1lo sp\u00ed\u0161e pro ten pozd\u011bj\u0161\u00ed term\u00edn.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Poradce prezidenta republiky, hlavn\u00ed ekonom spole\u010dnosti Deloitte David Marek byl na\u0161\u00edm hostem. D\u00edky za rozhovor, na sly\u0161enou.
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