{"id":49125,"date":"2024-06-01T09:17:44","date_gmt":"2024-06-01T07:17:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=49125"},"modified":"2024-06-01T09:17:44","modified_gmt":"2024-06-01T07:17:44","slug":"malacova-stanjura-a-radim-fiala-k-penzijnimu-systemu-v-otm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=49125","title":{"rendered":"Mal\u00e1\u010dov\u00e1, Stanjura a Radim Fiala k penzijn\u00edmu syst\u00e9mu\u00a0v OTM\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u010cT 1\u00a0&#8211; Ot\u00e1zky V\u00e1clava Moravce<br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ale je\u0161t\u011b to, pro\u010d vy jste zde svol\u00e1vali demonstraci za lep\u0161\u00ed ekonomick\u00fd model. Vy jste svol\u00e1vali demonstraci za z\u00e1kon\u00edk pr\u00e1ce a penzijn\u00ed syst\u00e9m. Tak\u017ee jdu v duchu.<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne, za aktivn\u00ed hospod\u00e1\u0159skou politiku st\u00e1tu.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To ale bylo a\u017e na t\u0159et\u00edm m\u00edst\u011b, pokud to tam bylo. Hlavn\u00ed byly ty dva, m\u011bl jsem tady minul\u00fd t\u00fdden plak\u00e1t, omlouv\u00e1m se, omlouv\u00e1m se, nebylo to na prvn\u00edm m\u00edst\u011b ten lep\u0161\u00ed ekonomick\u00fd model nebo hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fd model \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky. Kdy\u017e se pod\u00edv\u00e1me na jin\u00fd model, a to volebn\u00ed model, kter\u00fd jsme p\u0159edstavili, pod\u00edvejme se, jak by vypadalo rozd\u011blen\u00ed mand\u00e1t\u016f, a to na z\u00e1klad\u011b nam\u011b\u0159en\u00fdch preferenc\u00ed v pr\u016fb\u011bhu t\u0159\u00ed posledn\u00edch m\u011b\u0159en\u00ed. D&#8217;Hondtova metoda tak, jak se p\u0159epo\u010d\u00edt\u00e1vaj\u00ed mand\u00e1ty, u\u017e to vid\u00edte sami. V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b kandidatury koalice Spolu by hnut\u00ed ANO z\u00edskalo 90 k\u0159esel, koalice spolu 53, Pir\u00e1ti 23 mand\u00e1t\u016f, SPD 21, Starostov\u00e9 13 k\u0159esel. Strany sou\u010dasn\u00e9 vl\u00e1dn\u00ed koalice by dohromady z\u00edskaly 89 mand\u00e1t\u016f, p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1m, \u017ee te\u010f maj\u00ed aktu\u00e1ln\u011b ve sn\u011bmovn\u011b 108 a sou\u010dasn\u00e1 opozice by m\u011bla 111 k\u0159esel, pokud se\u010dteme hnut\u00ed ANO a SPD a jak by se slo\u017een\u00ed sn\u011bmovny prom\u011bnilo, kdyby kandidovaly politick\u00e9 strany samostatn\u011b? Te\u010f to vid\u00edte op\u011bt na z\u00e1klad\u011b nam\u011b\u0159en\u00fdch preferenc\u00ed. V pr\u016fb\u011bhu t\u0159\u00ed posledn\u00edch vln trend\u016f \u010ceska by hnut\u00ed ANO z\u00edskalo 96 k\u0159esel, ob\u010dan\u0161t\u00ed demokrat\u00e9 41, Pir\u00e1ti 26 mand\u00e1t\u016f, SPD 22 a starostov\u00e9 15 k\u0159esel. Strany sou\u010dasn\u00e9 vl\u00e1dn\u00ed koalice by tak z\u00edskaly 82 mand\u00e1t\u016f a opozice by m\u011bla 118 k\u0159esel.Pr\u00e1v\u011b o ty mand\u00e1ty jde, kdy\u017e hnut\u00ed ANO \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee pokud bude vl\u00e1dnout, tak zru\u0161\u00ed n\u00e1vrh d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reformy, se kter\u00fdm p\u0159ich\u00e1zej\u00ed strany sou\u010dasn\u00e9 vl\u00e1dn\u00ed koalice. Pane minist\u0159e, vy jste v tomto po\u0159adu byl, by\u0165 nep\u0159\u00edmo, v\u00e1\u0161 \u00fa\u0159ad kritizov\u00e1n Filipem Pertoldem, poradcem ministerstva pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed, kter\u00fd \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee se stejn\u011b bude muset sahat i do toho t\u0159et\u00edho pil\u00ed\u0159e a \u017ee je \u0161koda, \u017ee ministerstvo financ\u00ed tu zm\u011bnu t\u0159et\u00edho pil\u00ed\u0159e nenavrhlo. Pro\u010d takto d\u00e1vkujete a kouskujete zm\u011bny v penzijn\u00edm syst\u00e9mu? A pro\u010d nep\u0159ijdete s koncep\u010dn\u00edm ucelen\u011bj\u0161\u00edm \u0159e\u0161en\u00edm?<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Jako to bylo obvykle minule, p\u0159edminule, p\u0159edminule. Ka\u017ed\u00e1 vl\u00e1da p\u0159i\u0161la s komplexn\u00edm syst\u00e9mov\u00fdm \u0159e\u0161en\u00edm odv\u00e1\u017en\u00fdm. Nep\u0159edlo\u017eili, vy jste nep\u0159elo\u017eili nic.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne, p\u0159edlo\u017eili zm\u011bnu z\u00e1kon\u016f, ale taky to nebylo komplexn\u00ed a celistv\u00e9.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A kolik \u010dten\u00ed jste absolvovali ke zm\u011bn\u011b z\u00e1kon\u016f?<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak prosadili jsme v\u00fdchovn\u00e9. To jako v\u00fdchovn\u00e9 jsem prosadila. Tak\u017ee to jim te\u010fko ru\u0161\u00edte senior\u016fm.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Neru\u0161\u00edme.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>J\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b k tomu volebn\u00edmu modelu. J\u00e1 v\u00e1m hned odpov\u00edm. J\u00e1 jsem si to rychle spo\u010d\u00edtal te\u010fka ten posledn\u00ed model je pr\u016fm\u011br t\u0159\u00ed, tak opozi\u010dn\u00ed strany maj\u00ed 41,5 %, vl\u00e1dn\u00ed strany maj\u00ed 41. To vlastn\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee vlastn\u011b ty dva t\u00e1bory jsou hodn\u011b podobn\u00e9, jako co se t\u00fd\u010de s\u00edly, \u017ee m\u00e1lo se p\u0159ib\u00fdv\u00e1 mezi a velmi \u010dasto se p\u0159il\u00e9vaj\u00ed, omlouv\u00e1m se, velmi \u010dasto se p\u0159il\u00e9vaj\u00ed uvnit\u0159 t\u011bch t\u00e1bor\u016f podpora jednotliv\u00fdch stran. Ale jsme 15 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f p\u0159ed volbami. J\u00e1 to nechci ani podce\u0148ovat, ani p\u0159ece\u0148ovat. Z toho dne\u0161n\u00edho, co jste jako p\u0159edvedli, tak v z\u00e1sad\u011b ne na mand\u00e1ty, proto\u017ee tam to funguje jinak p\u0159i t\u011bch p\u0159epo\u010dtech, ale na procenta jsou vl\u00e1dn\u00ed opozi\u010dn\u00ed strany&#8230;<br \/><br \/>Radim FIALA, p\u0159edseda poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru PS P\u010cR, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hnut\u00ed \/SPD\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Co\u017e je ale zaj\u00edmav\u00fd, \u017ee opozice m\u00e1 po\u0159\u00e1d stejn\u011b, ale koalice, kter\u00e1 vl\u00e1dne, zvy\u0161uje dan\u011b a d\u011bl\u00e1 \u0159ezy v\u016f\u010di lidem je, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, tady pan\u00ed Mal\u00e1\u010dov\u00e1 asoci\u00e1ln\u00ed, tak pomalu roste. To je zaj\u00edmavej pr\u016fzkum.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ale j\u00e1 ho ned\u011bl\u00e1m.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne, promi\u0148te, to je pr\u016fzkum \u010cesk\u00e9 televize, a toto je obl\u00edben\u00e1 hr\u00e1tka politik\u016f, \u017ee ten pr\u016fzkum zpochyb\u0148uj\u00ed. A kdy\u017e se pod\u00edv\u00e1me na ty posledn\u00ed pr\u016fzkumy, kter\u00e9 v\u017edy Kantar p\u0159ed volbami d\u011bl\u00e1, tak se do plus minus jednoho procentn\u00edho bodu trefil.<br \/><br \/>Radim FIALA, p\u0159edseda poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru PS P\u010cR, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hnut\u00ed \/SPD\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A bude je\u0161t\u011b n\u011bjakej p\u0159ed volbama?<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, nepochybn\u011b bude. Ale te\u010f mi vy odpov\u011bzte na tu ot\u00e1zku, pane minist\u0159e, na kterou jsem se ptal. Pro\u010d ty zm\u011bny nejsou koncep\u010dn\u00ed? Jdete jednotliv\u00fdmi novelami a p\u0159ijdete je\u0161t\u011b s novelou, kter\u00e1 se bude t\u00fdkat toho t\u0159et\u00edho pil\u00ed\u0159e, tedy penzijn\u00edho p\u0159ipoji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne, nep\u0159ijdeme. Nen\u00ed, co bychom tam m\u011bnili z\u00e1sadn\u00edho, proto\u017ee velmi \u010dasto sly\u0161\u00edm v t\u00e9 debat\u011b, my bychom cht\u011bli, aby lid\u00e9 to pou\u017eili v\u00edc jako rentu.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ano, aby si to nevybrali najednou.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Proti tomu se v z\u00e1sad\u011b ned\u00e1 protestovat, proti t\u00e9 my\u0161lence, ale.Lid\u00e9 spo\u0159\u00ed des\u00edtky let mnoz\u00ed. Jsou nastaven\u00e1 pravidla a ta pravidla umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00ed, aby kdy\u017e \u0161et\u0159\u00ed minim\u00e1ln\u011b p\u011bt let, tak v \u0161edes\u00e1ti letech si naspo\u0159en\u00e9 pen\u00edze vy\u010derpali jednor\u00e1zov\u011b. Rozhoduje se tak v\u00edce ne\u017e 90 % klient\u016f a \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f penzijn\u00edho p\u0159ipoji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed. Tak\u017ee pokud m\u00e1m v\u00e9st debatu o tom, \u017ee by byla renta nap\u0159\u00edklad povinn\u00e1, tak se to t\u00fdk\u00e1 nov\u00fdch smluv a efekt uvid\u00edme za patn\u00e1ct, dvacet let. Ne\u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee tu debatu nem\u00e1me v\u00e9st.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ale se zm\u011bnou nep\u0159ijdete.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, ne, nep\u0159ijdu, proto\u017ee to je velmi komplikovan\u00e1 v\u011bc. My jsme o tom debatovali s n\u00e1rodn\u00ed rozpo\u010dtovou radou. Nen\u00ed to tak jednoduch\u00e9, jak ta p\u0159edstava, \u017ee lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed dneska \u0161et\u0159ili, \u017ee jim zak\u00e1\u017eu si vz\u00edt pen\u00edze v \u0161edes\u00e1ti, za m\u011b je nep\u0159ijateln\u00e1. Jo, to prost\u011b nen\u00ed, nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9, jo.<br \/><br \/>Radim FIALA, p\u0159edseda poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru PS P\u010cR, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hnut\u00ed \/SPD\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Podle m\u011b, a\u0165 si \u0159eknou, kolik cht\u011bj\u00ed \u010derpat, jestli celou \u010d\u00e1stku, nebo to cht\u011bj\u00ed m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b, nebo&#8230;<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To dneska mohou, jo? Ale bavme se o tom, jestli si \u0161et\u0159it hodn\u011b. Bavme se o tom, jak\u00e1 je finan\u010dn\u00ed gramotnost. My jsme zavedli dlouhodob\u00fd investi\u010dn\u00ed produkt pro ty mlad\u0161\u00ed ro\u010dn\u00edky, aby m\u011bli alternativy, aby mohli zv\u00e1\u017eit i t\u0159eba ambici\u00f3zn\u00ed, ale t\u00edm p\u00e1dem riskantn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed strategie. Je t\u0159eba \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee velmi \u010dasto jsou kritizovan\u00e9 star\u00e9 penzijn\u00ed fondy, \u017ee maj\u00ed mal\u00fd v\u00fdnos, to je pravda, na druh\u00e9 stran\u011b v\u0161ichni ti, kte\u0159\u00ed to kritizuj\u00ed, nev\u00edm, co by \u0159\u00edkali&#8230;<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pane minist\u0159e, jestli to ch\u00e1pu spr\u00e1vn\u011b, tak tato vl\u00e1da, jej\u00edm\u017e vy jste ministrem financ\u00ed, z\u016fstane u t\u011bch t\u0159\u00ed novel, kdy ta t\u0159et\u00ed te\u010f zam\u00ed\u0159ila do Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovny, je nejsporn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed a zu\u017euje se na to prodlu\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Zm\u011bny k t\u0159et\u00edmu pil\u00ed\u0159i jsme provedli k 1. lednu 2024. To znamen\u00e1, ty zm\u011bny v t\u0159et\u00edm pil\u00ed\u0159i jsou platn\u00e9 dneska necel\u00fdch p\u011bt m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ale ne ty z\u00e1sadn\u00ed, o nich\u017e mluv\u00ed N\u00e1rodn\u00ed ekonomick\u00e1 rada vl\u00e1dy, aby ten syst\u00e9m d\u00e1val smysl. Hnut\u00ed ANO zase p\u0159i\u0161lo se druh\u00fdm pil\u00ed\u0159em vyu\u017eit\u00ed toho fondov\u00e9ho&#8230;<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne. S n\u00e1rodn\u00ed rozpo\u010dtovou radou se fakt neli\u0161\u00edm v pohledu na t\u0159et\u00ed pil\u00ed\u0159. Debatujeme to. Jenom \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, vymyslet syst\u00e9m, kdy to p\u0159\u00e1n\u00ed a dejme tomu i rozumn\u00fd n\u00e1pad, aby z toho byla renta t\u0159eba na deset let, z toho, co naspo\u0159\u00edm, to nem\u016f\u017eete. To se m\u011blo ud\u011blat na za\u010d\u00e1tku p\u0159ed t\u011bmi 25, 30 lety, proto\u017ee ty mnoh\u00e9 smlouvy, mnoz\u00ed ti, kte\u0159\u00ed jdou do penze letos, za rok, za dva, za t\u0159i, u\u017e spo\u0159\u00ed 25 a 30 let a nem\u016f\u017eete jim zm\u011bnit pravidla, kdy\u017e&#8230;<br \/><br \/>Radim FIALA, p\u0159edseda poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru PS P\u010cR, m\u00edstop\u0159edseda hnut\u00ed \/SPD\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Oni sami mohou zm\u011bnit pravidla, oni mohou.Dejte jim tu \u0161anci.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Oni dneska mohou m\u00edt tu rentu, jenom to prost\u011b nevyu\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Co budete cht\u00edt, pokud se uskute\u010dn\u00ed nov\u00e9 jedn\u00e1n\u00ed vl\u00e1dy a odbor\u016f, tak jak\u00e9 zm\u011bny byste pova\u017eovali za solidn\u00ed kompromis v t\u00e9 posledn\u00ed t\u0159et\u00ed novele penzijn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu, kter\u00e1 se i v t\u00e9 medi\u00e1ln\u00ed diskuzi zu\u017euje jenom na to zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed v\u011bku odchodu do penze.<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ono je to to nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, to zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed v\u011bku odchodu do d\u016fchodu. J\u00e1 bych si od vl\u00e1dy p\u0159\u00e1la a j\u00e1 respektuju, \u017ee pravicov\u00e1 vl\u00e1da chce zvy\u0161ovat v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu, nesouhlas\u00edm s t\u00edm a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee se to mus\u00ed zastropovat ide\u00e1ln\u011b v \u00fastav\u011b na p\u011bta\u0161edes\u00e1ti.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Vy byste to stropovala, vy byste d\u00e1vala do \u00fastavy v\u011bk odchodu do penze?<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Hm, tak n\u011bjak, po vzoru Slovenska.A nebo \u00fastavn\u00edm z\u00e1konem. Ale poslouchejte.Jako j\u00e1 bych cht\u011bla od vl\u00e1dy, kdy\u017e se bav\u00edme o t\u011bch argumentech a \u010d\u00edslech, a\u0165 n\u00e1m odpov\u00ed na t\u0159i ot\u00e1zky. Kolik lid\u00ed bude schopno po p\u011bta\u0161edes\u00e1tce pracovat a kolik nebude?Jak\u00e9 profese to budou? A jak to souvis\u00ed s digitalizac\u00ed a automatizac\u00ed? Proto\u017ee vy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, zvedneme v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 vystoup\u00ed pan\u00a0<strong>ministr<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>pr\u00e1ce<\/strong>\u00a0a \u0159ekne, zanikne tady n\u011bkolik set stovek tis\u00edc pracovn\u00edch m\u00edst a jeden milion pracovn\u00edch pozic se kompletn\u011b zm\u011bn\u00ed. Tak\u017ee jak to jde dohromady? Kter\u00e9 profese to jsou, kter\u00e9 zaniknou, kter\u00e9 vzniknou a v kter\u00fdch profes\u00edch lid\u00e9 budou schopni po p\u011bta\u0161edes\u00e1tce pracovat? No a kolik n\u00e1s to bude st\u00e1t? Ty lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed nebudou schopni pracovat po p\u011bta\u0161edes\u00e1tce, kolik n\u00e1s to bude st\u00e1t na jin\u00fdch d\u00e1vk\u00e1ch? Na nemocensk\u00e9, proto\u017ee spousta lid\u00ed se do d\u016fchodu promarod\u00ed, kdy\u017e to zvednete. Na zdravotn\u00ed p\u00e9\u010di obecn\u00e9, na\u00a0<strong>invalidn\u00edch<\/strong>\u00a0d\u016fchodech, pane minist\u0159e, na v podstat\u011b podpo\u0159e v nezam\u011bstnanosti, proto\u017ee ten koktejl, vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu a automatizace, digitalizace bude znamenat, \u017ee o pr\u00e1ci budou p\u0159ich\u00e1zet zejm\u00e9na star\u0161\u00ed lid\u00e9, to budou des\u00edtky miliard korun.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak to jsou t\u0159i ot\u00e1zky&#8230; Po\u010dkejte, vy kladete dal\u0161\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak\u017ee, tak\u017ee. Kdo bude schopen pracovat po p\u011bta\u0161edes\u00e1tce, kolik lid\u00ed? V jak\u00fdch profes\u00edch? Kolik to bude st\u00e1t na jin\u00fdch d\u00e1vk\u00e1ch?<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak za prv\u00e9, my nezvy\u0161ujeme v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu taxativn\u011b, ale fixujeme ten na pr\u016fm\u011brnou dobu do\u017eit\u00ed toho, jak jste v d\u016fchodu na stejnou, jako je dneska. To mn\u011b p\u0159ijde mezigenera\u010dn\u011b spravedliv\u00e9. My jsme v paradoxn\u00edm syst\u00e9mu, kdy dneska&#8230;<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Demografov\u00e9 s v\u00e1mi nesouhlas\u00ed, ale to detail.\u010cesk\u00e1 demografick\u00e1 spole\u010dnost. Ale&#8230;<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>M\u016f\u017eu \u0159\u00edct jednu v\u011btu bez toho, \u017ee mi sko\u010d\u00edte do \u0159e\u010di?<br \/><br \/>Jana MAL\u00c1\u010cOV\u00c1, odborn\u00e1 poradkyn\u011b \u010cMKOS, b\u00fdv. ministryn\u011b pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/SOCDEM\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>J\u00e1 jenom narovn\u00e1v\u00e1m v\u011bci na pravou m\u00edru. Omlouv\u00e1m se.<br \/><br \/>Zbyn\u011bk STANJURA, ministr financ\u00ed, poslanec, 1. m\u00edstop\u0159edseda strany \/ODS\/<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Vy nejste \u010cesk\u00e1 demografick\u00e1 spole\u010dnost. \u0158\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee nezvy\u0161ujem automaticky v\u011bk odchodu do d\u016fchodu. Mimochodem v dne\u0161n\u00ed platn\u00e9 z\u00e1konn\u00e9 \u00faprav\u011b je, \u017ee po, jednou za p\u011bt let, vyhodnocen\u00ed statistick\u00e9ho \u00fa\u0159adu lze zv\u00fd\u0161it v\u011bk odchodu na 5\u20136 u\u017e v dne\u0161n\u00ed legislativ\u011b. Tak\u017ee tam \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 dramatick\u00e1 zm\u011bna nen\u00ed.<br \/><br \/>V\u00e1clav MORAVEC, moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Rozlou\u010d\u00edme se s div\u00e1ky jedni\u010dky. Ty t\u0159i ot\u00e1zky tady z\u016fst\u00e1vaj\u00ed a budou zodpov\u011bzeny ve druh\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti Ot\u00e1zek. P\u0159epn\u011bte si na zaj\u00edmavou diskuzi Zby\u0148ka Stanjury, Radima Fialy a Jany Mal\u00e1\u010dov\u00e9, kter\u00e1 pokra\u010duje po stru\u010dn\u00fdch zpr\u00e1v\u00e1ch na zpravodajsk\u00e9 \u010dty\u0159iadvac\u00edtce. S div\u00e1ky jedni\u010dky se lou\u010d\u00edme. Nab\u00eddneme tak\u00e9 problematiku v\u00fdstavby d\u00e1lnic a jak\u00fdm tempem miz\u00ed zak\u00e1zan\u00e9 billboardy? Hostem z\u00e1v\u011bre\u010dn\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti bude \u0161\u00e9f \u0158editelstv\u00ed silnic a d\u00e1lnic Radek M\u00e1tl. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>\u010cT 1\u00a0&#8211; Ot\u00e1zky V\u00e1clava Moravcemoder\u00e1tor&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Ale je\u0161t\u011b to, pro\u010d vy jste zde svol\u00e1vali demonstraci za lep\u0161\u00ed ekonomick\u00fd model. 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