{"id":51672,"date":"2024-09-03T05:15:07","date_gmt":"2024-09-03T03:15:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=51672"},"modified":"2024-09-03T05:15:22","modified_gmt":"2024-09-03T03:15:22","slug":"duchodovy-vek-v-cesku-by-se-mel-zvedat-pomaleji-nez-puvodne-pocitala-duchodova-reforma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=51672","title":{"rendered":"D\u016fchodov\u00fd v\u011bk v \u010cesku by se m\u011bl zvedat pomaleji, ne\u017e p\u016fvodn\u011b po\u010d\u00edtala d\u016fchodov\u00e1 reforma\u00a0\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l\u00a0<br \/><br \/>D\u016fchodov\u00fd v\u011bk v \u010cesku by se m\u011bl zvedat pomaleji, ne\u017e p\u016fvodn\u011b po\u010d\u00edtala d\u016fchodov\u00e1 reforma. Posouval by se o m\u011bs\u00edce ro\u010dn\u011b m\u00edsto navrhovan\u00fdch a\u017e dvou m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f. Jak \u0159ekl\u00a0<strong>ministr<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>pr\u00e1ce<\/strong>\u00a0a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed Marian Jure\u010dka z KDU-\u010cSL, koalice se na zm\u011bn\u011b dohodla. \u00dapravu jej\u00ed poslanci p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00ed t\u00fdden navrhnou ve Sn\u011bmovn\u011b do projedn\u00e1van\u00e9 reformn\u00ed d\u016fchodov\u00e9 novely. Podle n\u00e1vrhu reformy se m\u00e1 penzijn\u00ed hranice stanovit ka\u017ed\u00fd rok lidem, jim\u017e bude zrovna 50 let podle o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9 doby jejich do\u017eit\u00ed. Posouvat se m\u00e1 nejv\u00fd\u0161e o dva m\u011bs\u00edce ro\u010dn\u011b tak, aby d\u016fchod trval v pr\u016fm\u011bru 21,5 roku. S n\u00e1mi je ve vys\u00edl\u00e1n\u00ed Petr Jansk\u00fd, odborn\u00edk na oblast ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, vedouc\u00ed Katedry evropsk\u00e9 ekonomick\u00e9 integrace a hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 politiky Institutu ekonomick\u00fdch studi\u00ed Fakulty soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bd Univerzity Karlovy, dobr\u00fd den.<br \/>Vl\u00e1dn\u00ed reforma po\u010d\u00edtala s pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00edm navy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed penzijn\u00edho v\u011bku nad 65 let od p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edho desetilet\u00ed podle prodlu\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed \u017eivota u jednotliv\u00fdch ro\u010dn\u00edk\u016f nepravideln\u011b, a to nejv\u00fd\u0161 o dva m\u011bs\u00edce za rok. Je podle v\u00e1s rozumn\u00e9 zpomalit r\u016fst v\u011bku odchodu do d\u016fchodu?<br \/><br \/>Petr Jansk\u00fd, ekonom, vedouc\u00ed Katedry evropsk\u00e9 ekonomick\u00e9 integrace a ekonomick\u00fdch studi\u00ed Fakulty soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bd Univerzity Karlovy<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Rozumn\u00e9, nev\u00edm, ale m\u016f\u017eeme se bavit o tom, jak\u00e9 to bude m\u00edt dopady. V\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b se m\u011bn\u00ed jenom to tempo, kdyby doch\u00e1zelo k rychl\u00e9mu prodlu\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9 d\u00e9lky do\u017eit\u00ed, tak bychom mohli \u010dasto posouvat ty hranice o dva m\u011bs\u00edce a kdyby naopak nedoch\u00e1zelo, tak by se o jeden m\u011bs\u00edc za rok nebo v\u016fbec, tak to zm\u011bna, tak to m\u011bn\u00ed, \u017ee to maximum bude ten m\u011bs\u00edc na rok. Tak\u017ee stejn\u011b nevytv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed tam \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd strop. Jenom jde o to, \u017ee k tomu, podle toho stejn\u00e9ho mechanismu dojdeme k t\u00e9 c\u00edlen\u00e9 hodnot\u011b podle t\u00e9 o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9 do\u017eit\u00ed pozd\u011bji.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A poda\u0159\u00ed se tak odstranit nespravedlnosti mezi jednotliv\u00fdmi ro\u010dn\u00edky, p\u0159ed kter\u00fdmi varovali demografov\u00e9?<br \/><br \/>Petr Jansk\u00fd, <br \/>No, v\u00edte, ono s tou spravedlnost\u00ed je to slo\u017eit\u00e9, demografov\u00e9 se zam\u011b\u0159ili na tu spravedlnost mezi t\u00edm, kdy\u017e m\u011b by d\u016fchodov\u00fd v\u011bk m\u011bl nar\u016fst o dva m\u011bs\u00edce oproti a tam pak vzniklo dvoum\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u00ed rozd\u00edl oproti t\u011bm, co p\u016fjdou o rok dop\u0159edu p\u0159ede mnou do d\u016fchodu. Ale m\u016f\u017eeme se bavit o tom, je to nespravedliv\u00e9, kdy\u017e j\u00e1 budu m\u00edt v\u00fdrazn\u011b t\u0159eba del\u0161\u00ed, o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1 d\u00e9lku do\u017eit\u00ed, a proto dojde k tomu posunu o dva m\u011bs\u00edce? M\u011b to tak nutn\u011b nep\u0159ipad\u00e1. Te\u010f naopak ta nespravedlnost p\u016fjde druh\u00fdm sm\u011brem. Jestli mi rozum\u00edte a poslucha\u010di. Te\u010f m\u016f\u017ee doj\u00edt k tomu, \u017ee p\u016fjdou lid\u00e9, co bude o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1no, \u017ee se do\u017eij\u00ed del\u0161\u00edho v\u011bku, tak p\u016fjdou d\u0159\u00edv do d\u016fchodu. To znamen\u00e1, vznikne tam nespravedlnost potenci\u00e1ln\u011b t\u00edm druh\u00fdm sm\u011brem, \u017ee kv\u016fli tomu pomalej\u0161\u00edmu n\u00e1r\u016fstu budou n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed lid\u00e9, co p\u016fjdou pozd\u011bji do d\u016fchodu, tak budou tr\u00e1vit del\u0161\u00ed obdob\u00ed \u017eivota v d\u016fchodu ne\u017e ti, co \u0161li d\u0159\u00edve.<br \/><br \/> moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pro p\u0159edstavu, jak\u00fd rozd\u00edl to ud\u011bl\u00e1 m\u011bs\u00edc za rok m\u00edsto dvou?<br \/><br \/>Petr Jansk\u00fd,<br \/>To si m\u016f\u017eeme jednodu\u0161e spo\u010d\u00edtat. Kdyby doch\u00e1zelo, a to n\u00e1m p\u0159eji, aby doch\u00e1zelo k rychl\u00e9mu prodlu\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9 d\u00e9lky do\u017eit\u00ed, tak by to pak bylo, \u017ee od dvojn\u00e1sobn\u00e9 tempo, ale to je nejist\u00e9, \u017ee mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to tempo nejsp\u00ed\u0161 nebude tak vysok\u00e9 pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b a tud\u00ed\u017e ten rozd\u00edl bude men\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e dvojn\u00e1sobn\u00fd. A te\u010fka se bav\u00edme o tom, jak to funguje a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ten dopad nen\u00ed jenom na lidi a rozd\u00edly mezi lidmi, ale ty dopady jsou tak\u00e9 rozpo\u010dtov\u00e9 a ty dopady, jak \u010dtu te\u010f ten n\u00e1vrh, s\u00e1m jsem to vid\u011bl jenom taky z m\u00e9di\u00ed, tak ty rozpo\u010dtov\u00e9 dopady jsou relativn\u011b v\u00fdrazn\u00e9, \u017ee to pomalej\u0161\u00ed tempo zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed v\u011bku odchodu do d\u016fchodu bude m\u00edt docela v\u00fdrazn\u00e9 rozpo\u010dtov\u00e9 dopady. A jestli je na to prostor, tak to m\u016f\u017eou bl\u00ed\u017ee popsat.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, popi\u0161te.<br \/><br \/>Petr Jansk\u00fd, <br \/>Tak\u017ee pro\u010d tady v\u016fbec tu d\u016fchodu reformu vl\u00e1da navrhuje? Tak k tomu se m\u016f\u017ee dostat t\u011bm d\u016fvod\u016fm, ale jeden z nich je ten, \u017ee ty rozpo\u010dtov\u00e9 n\u00e1klady toho na\u0161eho sou\u010dasnosti nebo je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ed dv\u011bma lety nastaven\u00e9ho d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu jsou obrovsk\u00e9 a v polovin\u011b tohoto stolet\u00ed, tak by do\u0161lo k tomu, \u017ee jenom ten d\u016fchodov\u00fd syst\u00e9m, tak by zadlu\u017eoval \u010desk\u00e9 ve\u0159ejn\u00e9 finance 5 % HDP, te\u010f do\u0161lo k n\u011bjak\u00fdm \u00faprav\u00e1m valorizace a p\u0159ed\u010dasn\u00fdch d\u016fchod\u016f a t\u00edm to ta sou\u010dasn\u00e1 vl\u00e1da sn\u00ed\u017eila na 3 % a te\u010f t\u011bmi \u00fapravami, kter\u00e9 v t\u00e9to velk\u00e9 d\u016fchodov\u00e9 reform\u011b navrhuje, tak do dne\u0161n\u00edho dne, tak to o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9 sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed toho deficitu d\u016fchodov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu bylo 1 %, tak\u017ee jsme \u0161li z p\u011bti na t\u0159i a te\u010fka ten krok jsme, vl\u00e1da se chystala ud\u011blat ze t\u0159\u00ed na 1 % ro\u010dn\u00edho deficitu kolem roku 2050. A m\u00edsto toho te\u010f, kdy\u017e se zpomal\u00ed to tempo n\u00e1r\u016fstu, tak u\u017e nep\u016fjdeme na 1 %, ale p\u016fjdeme zhruba na 1,3-1,4 % toho deficitu, tak\u017ee t\u00edm vid\u00edme, \u017ee vl\u00e1da tuto reformou cht\u011bla sn\u00ed\u017eit ten deficit o dva procentn\u00ed body, ale dojde, pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b, kdyby tato zm\u011bna byla jedin\u00e1, co by platila, tak by do\u0161lo ke sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9ho deficitu o 1,6-1,7 %, tak\u017ee je to sn\u00ed\u017een\u00e9 konsolida\u010dn\u00ed tempo, je to sn\u00ed\u017een\u00e9, je to \u0161t\u011bd\u0159ej\u0161\u00ed pro lidi, ale je ot\u00e1zka, kde na to vezmeme.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A m\u011bl by se ten d\u016fchodov\u00fd v\u011bk n\u011bkde zastavit, vy jste o stropu taky se zm\u00ednil? Nap\u0159\u00edklad v 65, kam dosp\u011bje ve t\u0159ic\u00e1t\u00fdch letech a jak navrhuje opozice?<br \/><br \/>Petr Jansk\u00fd, ekonom, vedouc\u00ed Katedry evropsk\u00e9 ekonomick\u00e9 integrace a ekonomick\u00fdch studi\u00ed Fakulty soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bd Univerzity Karlovy<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To je ot\u00e1zka filozofick\u00e1, mo\u017en\u00e1 politick\u00e1. Nev\u00edm, jestli \u00fapln\u011b na ekonoma. J\u00e1 sp\u00ed\u0161 podporuju to, abychom to nezastropov\u00e1vali, abychom to nav\u00e1zali na tu o\u010dek\u00e1vanou d\u00e9lku do\u017eit\u00ed, mo\u017en\u00e1 tak, jak si lid\u00e9 p\u0159ed 50, 100 lety nedovedli p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee budeme schopni pracovat v 60, 65 letech, tak dnes si to podle m\u011b velk\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st z n\u00e1s dovede p\u0159edstavit, tak mo\u017en\u00e1 tak to bude i za n\u011bkolik des\u00edtek let nebo za 50 let, tak\u017ee j\u00e1 jsem tomu otev\u0159en\u00fd a vid\u00edm tu nutnost toho, proto\u017ee ten st\u00e1t na to vypl\u00e1cen\u00ed t\u011bch p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 dlouh\u00fdch a vysok\u00fdch d\u016fchod\u016f pen\u00edze nem\u00e1. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee tohle to je jeden z d\u016fle\u017eit\u00fdch parametr\u016f, kter\u00fd je dobr\u00e9 posunout.<br \/><br \/> moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V opa\u010dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b by se zkr\u00e1tka museli zv\u00fd\u0161it dan\u011b?<br \/><br \/>Petr Jansk\u00fd,<br \/>To je jedna z mo\u017enost\u00ed, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 bych r\u00e1d zm\u00ednil, \u017ee ta reforma, kter\u00e1 je nyn\u00ed projedn\u00e1van\u00e1 ve Sn\u011bmovn\u011b, tak m\u00e1 dv\u011b z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u00fapravy, jeden z nich je ten v\u011bk, kter\u00fd tady diskutujeme a kde se uva\u017euje o tom zm\u011bk\u010den\u00ed a druh\u00e1 stejn\u011b d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 z hlediska rozpo\u010dtov\u00fdch dopad\u016f zm\u011bna je, \u017ee se sni\u017euj\u00ed ty budouc\u00ed d\u016fchody, tak\u017ee co nejsp\u00ed\u0161 my dva p\u016fjdeme do d\u016fchodu, tak ty na\u0161e d\u016fchody budou ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed kv\u016fli zm\u011bn\u011b t\u011bch pravidel, kter\u00e9 jsou te\u010fka projedn\u00e1v\u00e1ny, ne\u017e kdyby se ty pravidla nezm\u011bnily a ty jsou zodpov\u011bdn\u00e9 za 1 % bod toho sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed t\u011bch o\u010dek\u00e1van\u00fdch deficitu budoucnosti. Tak\u017ee dan\u011b, vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed zadlu\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed, ale i t\u0159eba sni\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed d\u016fchod\u016f jsou n\u011bkter\u00e9 z t\u011bch faktor\u016f nebo parametr\u016f, kter\u00fdmi je mo\u017en\u00e9 h\u00fdbat.<br \/><br \/>moder\u00e1tor<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Vysv\u011btluje Petr Jansk\u00fd, vedouc\u00ed Katedry evropsk\u00e9 ekonomick\u00e9 integrace a hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 politiky Institutu ekonomick\u00fdch studi\u00ed Fakulty soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bd Univerzity Karlovy. D\u011bkuju, na shledanou.<br \/><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/monitoring.anopress.cz\/files\/dnload\/final\/medical_00322_23122590.htm#obsah\"><br \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l\u00a0 D\u016fchodov\u00fd v\u011bk v \u010cesku by se m\u011bl zvedat pomaleji, ne\u017e p\u016fvodn\u011b po\u010d\u00edtala d\u016fchodov\u00e1 reforma. 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