Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Z\u00e1kon, kter\u00fd umo\u017e\u0148uje zv\u00fd\u0161it d\u016fchod p\u0159edlistopadov\u00fdm disident\u016fm, pomohl zat\u00edm 430 lidem. V\u00fd\u0161i jejich d\u016fchodu ovliv\u0148ovalo v\u011bzn\u011bn\u00ed nebo to, \u017ee nemohli pracovat v l\u00e9pe placen\u00fdch pozic\u00edch. Pr\u00e1v\u011b na to p\u0159ed rokem protestem a hladovkou upozornili b\u00fdval\u00ed disidenti Ji\u0159\u00ed Gruntor\u00e1d a John Bok. Parlament n\u00e1sledn\u011b p\u0159ijal z\u00e1kon, d\u00edky kter\u00e9mu se p\u0159edlistopadov\u00fdm disident\u016fm dorovnal d\u016fchod pr\u016fm\u011brn\u011b o 4 400 K\u010d, od b\u0159ezna naopak funkcion\u00e1\u0159i p\u0159edlistopadov\u00e9ho re\u017eimu maj\u00ed kr\u00e1cen\u00e9 d\u016fchody. To se aktu\u00e1ln\u011b t\u00fdk\u00e1 177 lid\u00ed, ti pr\u016fm\u011brn\u011b p\u0159i\u0161li o necel\u00fdch 1 500 K\u010d m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b. Tyto \u00fadaje p\u0159edstavil ministr<\/strong>\u00a0pr\u00e1ce<\/strong>\u00a0a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed z KDU-\u010cSL Marian Jure\u010dka. D\u016fle\u017eitou roli v rozhodov\u00e1n\u00ed o t\u011bchto \u00faprav\u00e1ch d\u016fchod\u016f m\u00e1 \u00dastav pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f. A proto te\u010f ve vys\u00edl\u00e1n\u00ed v\u00edt\u00e1m jeho \u0159editele Ladislava Kudrnu. Dobr\u00e9 odpoledne. Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l\u00a0 Z\u00e1kon, kter\u00fd umo\u017e\u0148uje zv\u00fd\u0161it d\u016fchod p\u0159edlistopadov\u00fdm disident\u016fm, pomohl zat\u00edm 430 lidem. V\u00fd\u0161i jejich d\u016fchodu ovliv\u0148ovalo v\u011bzn\u011bn\u00ed nebo to, \u017ee nemohli pracovat v l\u00e9pe placen\u00fdch […]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14138,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-53063","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53063","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=53063"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53063\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/14138"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=53063"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=53063"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=53063"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
U\u017e jsem \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee to zv\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed d\u016fchod\u016f se zat\u00edm t\u00fdk\u00e1 asi 430 b\u00fdval\u00fdch disident\u016f. Nen\u00ed to m\u00e1lo, nem\u011blo by se to t\u00fdkat v\u00edce lid\u00ed?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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Tak mus\u00edme si uv\u011bdomit, \u017ee se to t\u00fdk\u00e1 t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou na\u017eivu a t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed m\u011bli ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed d\u016fchod, ne\u017eli je pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00fd d\u016fchod v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice.
moder\u00e1tor
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J\u00e1 se na to pt\u00e1m i proto, \u017ee od listopadu plat\u00ed novela, podle kter\u00e9 mohou \u017e\u00e1dat o to osv\u011bd\u010den\u00ed \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f odboje proti komunismu i partne\u0159i odboj\u00e1\u0159\u016f a tak\u00e9 \u00dastav pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f, a to prost\u0159ednictv\u00edm sv\u00e9ho \u0159editele, tedy prost\u0159ednictv\u00edm v\u00e1s. Za t\u011bch 11 dn\u00ed, co tahle ta zm\u011bna je \u00fa\u010dinn\u00e1, Vyu\u017eil jste u\u017e t\u00e9hle t\u00e9 mo\u017enosti nebo chyst\u00e1te se, d\u011bl\u00e1te si n\u011bjak\u00fd seznam, u koho by bylo mo\u017en\u00e9 je\u0161t\u011b roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159it ten okruh lid\u00ed oproti st\u00e1vaj\u00edc\u00edmu stavu?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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Je to p\u0159esn\u011b tak, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, my pr\u00e1v\u011b v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b spole\u010dn\u011b s kolegyn\u011bmi a kolegy z \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f p\u0159ipravujeme okruh osob \u010di jejich p\u0159\u00edbuzn\u00fdch, kte\u0159\u00ed do t\u00e9to doby nepo\u017e\u00e1dali o uzn\u00e1n\u00ed \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edka odboje a odpor proti komunismu. A je p\u0159ekvapuj\u00edc\u00ed, \u017ee jsou mezi nimi i skute\u010dn\u011b velk\u00e9 osobnosti, kter\u00e9 do dne\u0161n\u00edho dne nepo\u017e\u00e1dali o toto ocen\u011bn\u00ed. A j\u00e1 jsem r\u00e1d, \u017ee to m\u016f\u017eeme ud\u011blat za n\u011b, pokud samoz\u0159ejm\u011b z\u00edsk\u00e1me jejich souhlas. A pokud ten souhlas z\u00edsk\u00e1me, tak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b to velice r\u00e1di u\u010din\u00edme a jsem r\u00e1d, \u017ee se n\u00e1m oz\u00fdvaj\u00ed i disidenti, disidentky z cel\u00e9 republiky, kte\u0159\u00ed do dne\u0161n\u00edho dne o to nepo\u017e\u00e1dali. Ono, v\u00edte, to nen\u00ed \u00fapln\u011b jednoduch\u00fd administrativn\u00ed proces a bav\u00edme se o osob\u00e1ch \u017eij\u00edc\u00edch, kter\u00fdm je p\u0159es 80 let a v\u00edc.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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Kolika lid\u00ed by se to mohlo t\u00fdkat, kdy\u017e \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee je za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1te kontaktovat, proto\u017ee k tomu samoz\u0159ejm\u011b je pot\u0159eba jejich souhlas, tak o kolik lid\u00ed by mohlo j\u00edt?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v tomto p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b to budou jednotlivci maxim\u00e1ln\u011b des\u00edtky, \u017ee u\u017e se to, ten po\u010det u\u017e se tolik nenav\u00fd\u0161\u00ed, jestli se to n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem nav\u00fd\u0161\u00ed. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee se dostaneme i s t\u00edm po\u010dtem, kter\u00fd jste zm\u00ednil, t\u011bch 430 osob, \u017ee se dostaneme mo\u017en\u00e1 n\u011bco p\u0159es 500 osob.
moder\u00e1tor
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Jak\u00fd praktick\u00fd dopad m\u00e1, pokud b\u00fdval\u00fd disident dostane tohle to osv\u011bd\u010den\u00ed, na co potom m\u00e1 n\u00e1rok?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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Nen\u00ed to pouze ten mor\u00e1ln\u00ed efekt, ale je tam ten efekt soci\u00e1ln\u00ed, \u017ee pokud doty\u010dn\u00fd doty\u010dn\u00e1 a pob\u00edraj\u00ed n\u00edzk\u00fd d\u016fchod nebo ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed, ne\u017e je pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00fd d\u016fchod v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice, tak pot\u00e9, co z\u00edskaj\u00ed toto ocen\u011bn\u00ed, se jim automaticky nav\u00fd\u0161\u00ed na tu pr\u016fm\u011brnou v\u00fd\u0161i.
moder\u00e1tor
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V ned\u011bli to bude u\u017e 35 let od za\u010d\u00e1tku tzv. Sametov\u00e9 revoluce. Jak je mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee tyhle v\u011bci st\u00e1le nejsou do\u0159e\u0161en\u00e9, \u017ee po 35 letech st\u00e1le hled\u00e1te, jestli se na n\u011bkoho z bojovn\u00edk\u016f proti komunistick\u00e9mu re\u017eimu nezapomn\u011blo?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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To je skv\u011bl\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka, kter\u00e1 by m\u011bla sm\u011b\u0159ovat asi n\u011bkoho jin\u00e9ho. M\u011b v roce 89, pamatuji si to \u017eiv\u011b, 17. listopad, bylo 14 let, byl jsem prvn\u00edm ro\u010dn\u00edku na st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kole. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b je to pozd\u011b, ale lep\u0161\u00ed pozd\u011b ne\u017e nikdy. S\u00e1m za sebe se domn\u00edv\u00e1m, \u017ee na spravedlnost nen\u00ed nikdy pozd\u011b. J\u00e1 v\u017edycky r\u00e1d s oblibou opakuji, \u017ee ta minulost je v\u017edy p\u0159ed n\u00e1mi a jsou hodnoty, kter\u00e9 nelze vy\u010d\u00edslit pen\u011bzi. Na spravedlnost, skute\u010dn\u011b nen\u00ed nikdy pozd\u011b a ta minulost je v\u017edy p\u0159ed n\u00e1mi a j\u00e1 bych r\u00e1d pod\u011bkoval v\u0161em kolegyn\u00edm a koleg\u016fm z na\u0161\u00ed instituce, kte\u0159\u00ed odvedli \u0161pi\u010dkovou pr\u00e1ci jak v oblasti narovn\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch d\u016fchod\u016f, tak i v oblasti t\u011bch d\u016fchod\u016f, kter\u00e9 byly sn\u00ed\u017eeny b\u00fdval\u00fdm p\u0159edstavitel\u016fm komunistick\u00e9ho re\u017eimu.
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Tak k tomu se samoz\u0159ejm\u011b tak\u00e9 chci dostat, proto\u017ee od leto\u0161n\u00edho b\u0159ezna naopak p\u0159edn\u00ed p\u0159edstavitel\u00e9 p\u0159edlistopadov\u00e9ho re\u017eimu maj\u00ed kr\u00e1cen\u00e9 starobn\u00ed d\u016fchody, a to o 300 K\u010d za ka\u017ed\u00fd rok, kdy byly v t\u00e9 vrcholn\u00e9 funkci. Pr\u00e1v\u011b v\u00e1\u0161 \u00fastav sestavuje seznam t\u011bch, koho se to t\u00fdk\u00e1, aktu\u00e1ln\u011b je to 177 lid\u00ed, je ten seznam kompletn\u00ed nebo je\u0161t\u011b dal\u0161\u00ed jm\u00e9na ov\u011b\u0159ujete?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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Co se t\u00fdk\u00e1 toho prvn\u00edho okruhu t\u011bch prominent\u016f, tak se domn\u00edv\u00e1m, \u017ee u\u017e tento po\u010det bude fin\u00e1ln\u00ed, ale my v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b finalizujeme n\u00e1vrh z\u00e1kona, kter\u00fd by m\u011bl b\u00fdt p\u0159edlo\u017een v lednu p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edho roku, kter\u00fd velice razantn\u011b roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed ten seznam prominent\u016f b\u00fdval\u00e9ho re\u017eimu.
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\u0158\u00edk\u00e1te, razantn\u011b roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed, o koho by ten seznam m\u011bl b\u00fdt roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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Tak jedn\u00e1 se tam o veden\u00ed KS\u010c, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee tam budou \u010dlenov\u00e9 \u00dast\u0159edn\u00ed kontroln\u00ed a revizn\u00ed komise KS\u010c, odd\u011blen\u00ed st\u00e1tn\u00ed administrativy \u00daV KS\u010c, vedouc\u00ed jednotliv\u00fdch odd\u011blen\u00ed \u00daV KS\u010c, a potom tam budou i region\u00e1ln\u00ed struktury, to znamen\u00e1 n\u00e1\u010deln\u00edci \u0161t\u00e1bu Lidov\u00fdch milic\u00ed v kraj\u00edch a okresech, c\u00edrkevn\u00ed tajemn\u00edci okresn\u00edch a krajsk\u00fdch v\u00fdbor\u016f KS\u010c i dogi\u0161t\u00ed tajemn\u00edci okresn\u00edch a krajsk\u00fdch v\u00fdbor\u016f KS\u010c a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b vedouc\u00ed pracovn\u00edci operativn\u00edch \u00fatvar\u016f St\u00e1tn\u00ed bezpe\u010dnosti, operativn\u00ed pracovn\u00edci \u00fatvar\u016f ur\u010den\u00fd zejm\u00e9na k boji proti vnit\u0159n\u00edmu nep\u0159\u00edteli. To je, tady se bav\u00edme zhruba o n\u011bjak\u00fdch dvou tis\u00edc\u00edch a\u017e 2 500 osob.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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2 500 \u017eij\u00edc\u00edch osob?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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To m\u00e1me vytipov\u00e1no, kolik by to zhruba mohlo b\u00fdt osob, kter\u00e9 je\u0161t\u011b jako by mohli b\u00fdt sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed tohoto z\u00e1kona, ale nev\u00edme, to teprve mus\u00edm zjistit, ale my ten p\u0159\u00edstup k tomu nem\u00e1me, my vypracujeme ten seznam na z\u00e1klad\u011b toho z\u00e1kona a potom samoz\u0159ejm\u011b Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed ov\u011b\u0159uje, zda ten doty\u010dn\u00fd doty\u010dn\u00e1 je na\u017eivu.
moder\u00e1tor
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Odkdy by se i t\u011bmto lidem m\u011bl kr\u00e1tit d\u016fchod?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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Ta \u00fa\u010dinnost toho z\u00e1kona by byla od 1. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed roku 2025 a to samotn\u00e9 sni\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed d\u016fchodu by prob\u00edhalo od listopadu roku 2026, Proto\u017ee tam je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b nezbytn\u00fd \u010das k tomu, aby zam\u011bstnanci \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f provedli velice rozs\u00e1hl\u00fd archivn\u00ed v\u00fdzkum nejenom v hlavn\u00edm m\u011bst\u011b, ale nap\u0159\u00ed\u010d republikou ve v\u0161ech region\u00e1ln\u00edch archivech \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky.
moder\u00e1tor
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Tak jak jsem se podobn\u011b ptal p\u0159ed chv\u00edl\u00ed, zept\u00e1m se i tady. M\u00e1 tohle smysl 35 let, respektive kdy\u017e mluv\u00edte o t\u00e9 \u00fa\u010dinnosti 37 let po listopadu 89?
Ladislav Kudrna, \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f
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M\u00e1, m\u00e1 smysl, proto\u017ee opakuji, na spravedlnost nen\u00ed nikdy pozd\u011b a je dob\u0159e zn\u00e1t sv\u00e9 hrdiny, stejn\u011b tak je dob\u0159e zn\u00e1t, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e9 zlo m\u00e1 svoji konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed tv\u00e1\u0159.
Tom\u00e1\u0161 Panc\u00ed\u0159, moder\u00e1tor
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\u0158\u00edk\u00e1 \u0159editel \u00dastavu pro studium totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f Ladislav Kudrna. D\u00edky za rozhovor, na sly\u0161enou.
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