{"id":57564,"date":"2025-05-25T06:54:06","date_gmt":"2025-05-25T04:54:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=57564"},"modified":"2025-05-25T06:54:06","modified_gmt":"2025-05-25T04:54:06","slug":"do-letadla-kompresni-puncochy-i-preventivne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=57564","title":{"rendered":"Do letadla kompresn\u00ed pun\u010dochy i preventivn\u011b"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u010cRo<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>pan MUDr. Pavel Ko\u0159\u00ednek z Oblastn\u00ed nemocnice v Trutnov\u011b p\u016fsob\u00ed v c\u00e9vn\u00ed poradn\u011b. Dobr\u00e9 dopoledne, v\u00edtejte. Na\u0161e t\u00e9ma jsou k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly, co\u017e je \u010dast\u00fd probl\u00e9m, ale probl\u00e9m, kter\u00fd si vy\u017eaduje \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, je to probl\u00e9m, kter\u00fd tr\u00e1p\u00ed mu\u017ee i \u017eeny, je d\u011bdi\u010dn\u00fd, v n\u011bjak\u00e9 f\u00e1zi je i estetick\u00fd, co\u017e n\u00e1m hodn\u011b vad\u00ed, proto\u017ee k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017eily u\u017e jsou pak vid\u011bt a n\u011bkdy opravdu hodn\u011b, ale probl\u00e9mem zdravotn\u00edm je to, \u017ee krev t\u011bmito \u017eilami neproud\u00ed tak, jak by m\u011bla. Co je tam na tom \u0161patn\u011b?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MUDr. Pavel Ko\u0159\u00ednek<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V z\u00e1sad\u011b se daj\u00ed ty k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017eily rozd\u011blit do dvou velk\u00fdch skupin. Ta prvn\u00ed daleko \u010dast\u011bj\u0161\u00ed jsou tzv. prim\u00e1rn\u00ed varixy a ty jsou pr\u00e1v\u011b zalo\u017eeny na poru\u0161e synt\u00e9zy, tvorby toho kolagenu v \u017eiln\u00ed st\u011bn\u011b, a druh\u00fd jsou potom z\u00edskan\u00e9 neboli sekund\u00e1rn\u00ed varixy, kter\u00e9 vznikaj\u00ed n\u00e1sledkem nepr\u016fchodnosti, zejm\u00e9na hlubok\u00e9ho \u017eiln\u00edho syst\u00e9mu, takov\u00fdm modelov\u00fdm p\u0159\u00edkladem t\u011bch druhotn\u00fdch sekund\u00e1rn\u00edch varix\u016f je hlubok\u00e1 \u017eiln\u00ed tromb\u00f3za, proto\u017ee a\u017e 85 procent krve v \u017eil\u00e1ch, respektive z t\u00e9 doln\u00ed kon\u010detiny se dr\u00e9nuje pr\u00e1v\u011b hlubok\u00fdm \u017eiln\u00edm syst\u00e9mem, tak\u017ee kdy\u017e je tam obstrukce v tom syst\u00e9mu, tak si najde t\u011blo jinou mo\u017enost odtoku z t\u00e9 doln\u00ed kon\u010detiny a pr\u00e1v\u011b se tvo\u0159\u00ed ty sekund\u00e1rn\u00ed varikozity, tak\u017ee je to d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 pro p\u0159\u00edpadnou l\u00e9\u010dbu. Proto\u017ee zat\u00edmco ty prim\u00e1rn\u011b varikozity se objevuj\u00ed u\u017e pom\u011brn\u011b i v \u010dast\u00e9m v\u011bku, nejmlad\u0161\u00ed, kter\u00e9ho jsem vid\u011bl, byl t\u0159in\u00e1ctilet\u00fd hoch. Tak\u017ee vznikaj\u00ed pom\u011brn\u011b \u010dasto, ty lze operovat r\u016fzn\u00fdmi nebo respektive o\u0161et\u0159ovat r\u016fzn\u00fdmi zp\u016fsoby. Zat\u00edmco u t\u011bch sekund\u00e1rn\u00edch druhotn\u00fdch varikozit by se m\u011blo v\u00fdrazn\u011b zv\u00e1\u017eit, zda n\u011bjak intervenovat, proto\u017ee v\u00fdrazn\u011b by mohl zhor\u0161it odtok z t\u00e9 doln\u00ed kon\u010detiny a n\u00e1sledkem by mohly b\u00fdt t\u0159eba rozs\u00e1hl\u00e9, dlouhodob\u00e9 a \u00faporn\u00e9 otoky t\u00e9 horn\u00ed kon\u010detiny. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Zrovna mluv\u00edte o chlapci a v\u00edm, \u017ee se i mu\u017ei s t\u00edm pot\u00fdkaj\u00ed, ale p\u0159esto obecn\u011b se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee asi u \u017een je to \u010dast\u011bj\u0161\u00ed\u00a0<strong>onemocn\u011bn\u00ed<\/strong>\u00a0nebo \u010dast\u011bj\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdskyt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Nep\u0159ijde mi, \u017ee by v praxi ta prevalence byla a\u017e \u00fapln\u011b, \u017ee \u017eeny maj\u00ed mnohem \u010dast\u011bji varikozity ne\u017e mu\u017ei, ale \u017een\u00e1m to daleko v\u00edc vad\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Jak n\u00e1s to m\u016f\u017ee ohrozit na zdrav\u00ed? Pokud bychom ne\u0159e\u0161ili v\u016fbec.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ten stav. V podstat\u011b, kdy\u017e se objev\u00ed ty varikozity, tak vznik\u00e1 porucha odtoku krve z doln\u00ed kon\u010detiny, proto\u017ee jak mo\u017en\u00e1 poslucha\u010di v\u011bd\u00ed, v t\u011bch \u017eilk\u00e1ch jsou tak\u00e9 drobn\u00e9 chlopn\u011b, kter\u00e9 zp\u016fsobuj\u00ed, \u017ee ta krev se nevrac\u00ed zp\u00e1tky, a p\u0159i ch\u016fzi, p\u0159i zap\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed sval\u016f v doln\u00ed kon\u010detin\u011b se posunuje st\u00e1le v\u00fd\u0161 a v\u00fd\u0161, a kdy\u017e p\u0159estanete chodit, tak se tyto chlopn\u011b jaksi zastav\u00ed a ta krev teda po\u0159\u00e1d postupuje sm\u011brem k centru t\u011bla. Zat\u00edmco kdy\u017e ty \u017e\u00edly jsou roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9, hodn\u011b dilatovan\u00e9, pokroucen\u00e9, tak ty chlopn\u011b nefunguj\u00ed a ta krev tam v podstat\u011b po\u0159\u00e1d stoj\u00ed a \u0161patn\u011b se dost\u00e1v\u00e1 zase sm\u011brem k t\u011blu, tak\u017ee kolem kotn\u00edku pak m\u016f\u017eeme detekovat tzv. v\u00fdraznou \u017eiln\u00ed hypertenzi a vysok\u00fd \u017eiln\u00ed tlak kolem t\u011bch kotn\u00edk\u016f. A p\u0159i dlouhodob\u00e9m procesu, kdy\u017e se to ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed a ty varikozity jsou opravdu rozs\u00e1hl\u00e9, tak hroz\u00ed v\u00fdsev takov\u00fdch drobn\u00fdch, hn\u011bdav\u00fdch jako te\u010dek, kter\u00e9 se postupn\u011b m\u016f\u017eou sl\u00edt a\u017e do velk\u00e9ho takov\u00e9ho hn\u011bdo\u010dern\u00e9ho a\u017e zabarven\u00ed a hlavn\u011b se v\u00fdrazn\u011b zhor\u0161uje trofika t\u00e9 k\u016f\u017ee, v\u00fd\u017eiva t\u00e9 k\u016f\u017ee a pak u\u017e i drobn\u00e9 \u0161kr\u00e1bnut\u00ed nebo kousnut\u00ed kom\u00e1rem nebo n\u011bjak\u00fd od\u0159enina pak m\u016f\u017ee zp\u016fsobit, \u017ee se to cel\u00e9 rozpadne, ten ko\u017en\u00ed kryt se neudr\u017e\u00ed integrovan\u00fd a objev\u00ed se to, \u010demu se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 v\u0159ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A to se potom i docela \u010dasto \u0161patn\u011b l\u00e9\u010d\u00ed. Je to tak?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A to je bohu\u017eel proces v\u00fdrazn\u011b dlouhodob\u00fd a tak\u017ee je pot\u0159eba, aspo\u0148 se do tohoto stadia nedostat n\u011bjakou dobu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pak jsou ty uzl\u00edky \u010d\u00edm d\u00e1l v\u00edc vid\u011bt, jak\u00e9 m\u016f\u017eou zp\u016fsobovat pot\u00ed\u017ee? Lid\u00e9 si \u010dasto st\u011b\u017euj\u00ed na pocity takov\u00fdch unaven\u00fdch t\u011b\u017ek\u00fdch nohou. Jde n\u011bjak zm\u00edrnit?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Je tomu tak, a to je d\u016fsledek, jak jsem zmi\u0148oval, t\u00e9 \u017eiln\u00ed hypertenze, \u017ee tam ta krev \u0161patn\u011b odt\u00e9k\u00e1 a lidi maj\u00ed a zejm\u00e9na si st\u011b\u017euj\u00ed na ve\u010dern\u00ed otoky, ty b\u00fdvaj\u00ed r\u016fzn\u011b velk\u00e9 intenzity, r\u00e1no miz\u00ed, ale ve\u010der jsou v\u011bt\u0161inou v\u00fdrazn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Tak jednak to tla\u010d\u00ed, bol\u00ed a ne nadarmo se tomu i \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly, \u017ee ob\u010das maj\u00ed i k\u0159e\u010de v t\u00e9 doln\u00ed kon\u010detin\u011b a d\u00e1 se tomu p\u0159edch\u00e1zet zcela ur\u010dit\u011b n\u011bjakou polohovou terapi\u00ed, aspo\u0148 kdy\u017e p\u0159ijdou lidi dom\u016f, tak se doporu\u010duje lehnout si na podlahu a op\u0159\u00edt si nohy o st\u011bnu nebo si je d\u00e1t na \u017eidli nebo na st\u016fl a b\u011bhem doby ten otok se t\u00edm zp\u016fsobem zm\u00edrni a ta \u017eiln\u00ed hypertenze se tak\u00e9 v\u00fdrazn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem zm\u00edrni, no, a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b zlat\u00fdm standardem je po\u0159\u00e1d kompresivn\u00ed terapie, ale jestli\u017ee lidi u\u017e maj\u00ed takov\u00e9 obt\u00ed\u017ee a maj\u00ed tam ty k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly, tak mysl\u00edm, \u017ee u\u017e by st\u00e1lo za to nav\u0161t\u00edvit\u00a0<strong>l\u00e9ka\u0159e<\/strong>, n\u011bjak zkonzultovat, jestli ten n\u00e1lez u\u017e by se nem\u011bl \u0159e\u0161it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>te\u010f p\u0159ed chv\u00edl\u00ed telefonovala pan\u00ed Lenka, u\u017e ji nem\u00e1me na lince, ale pt\u00e1 se na tzv. metli\u010dky, pane doktore. A to jsme \u010dekali, \u017ee to p\u0159ijde. To nejsou p\u0159\u00edmo ty uzl\u00edky, ale p\u0159ece jenom u\u017e je to n\u011bco, co je vid\u011bt v\u011bt\u0161inou v takov\u00e9 fialov\u00e9 barv\u011b. Pan\u00ed Lenka \u0159\u00edkala, \u017ee jich m\u00e1 hodn\u011b, \u017ee j\u00ed n\u011bkdy i praskaj\u00ed, \u017ee n\u011bkdy m\u00e1 k\u0159e\u010de v nohou, ale jinak \u017ee je v po\u0159\u00e1dku, s ni\u010d\u00edm se nel\u00e9\u010d\u00ed, krevn\u00ed testy m\u00e1 v po\u0159\u00e1dku taky. Tak co by se s t\u00edm dalo d\u011blat?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Metli\u010dkov\u00e9, neboli flebektazie, to je takov\u00fd pom\u011brn\u011b zaj\u00edmav\u00fd medic\u00ednsk\u00fd probl\u00e9m, proto\u017ee prakticky se nevyskytuj\u00ed u mu\u017e\u016f, v\u00fdhradn\u011b se vyskytuj\u00ed skoro stoprocentn\u011b u \u017een a jejich etologie dodne\u0161ka nen\u00ed p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 jako roz\u0161ifrovan\u00e1. Z\u0159ejm\u011b to bude m\u00edt asi n\u011bjakou souvislost s \u017eensk\u00fdmi pohlavn\u00edmi hormony. Metli\u010dkov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly jsou v podstat\u011b roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly v k\u016f\u017ei, p\u0159\u00edmo v k\u016f\u017ei, nen\u00ed to v podko\u017e\u00ed, jako jsou ty klasick\u00e9 varikosity, ale p\u0159\u00edmo v t\u00e9 k\u016f\u017ei dosahuj\u00ed velk\u00fdch, n\u011bkdy takov\u00fdch \u0161lapovit\u00fdch, takov\u00fdch um\u011bleck\u00fdch obraz\u016f, ne n\u011bjak jako, \u017ee by zp\u016fsobovaly t\u0159eba poruchu trofiky, vznik n\u011bjak\u00fdch v\u0159ed\u016f. To rozhodn\u011b ne, ale n\u011bkter\u00e9 \u017eeny si st\u011b\u017euj\u00ed, \u017ee t\u0159eba v dob\u011b cyklu t\u0159eba menstruace jsou v\u00fdrazn\u011b citliv\u00fd, ob\u010das i maj\u00ed pocit, \u017ee ot\u00e9kaj\u00ed, m\u016f\u017eou bolet, ale jak poslucha\u010dka \u0159\u00edkala, zd\u00e1nliv\u011b to vypad\u00e1, \u017ee praskaj\u00ed, ale oni se sp\u00ed\u0161 jen tak v t\u00e9 k\u016f\u017ei po\u0159\u00e1d jakoby roz\u0161i\u0159uj\u00ed. Jako \u00fa\u010dinn\u00e1 terapie, jako prevence vzniku t\u011bch flebekt\u00e1z\u00ed v podstat\u011b nen\u00ed. Kdysi se doporu\u010dovaly takov\u00e9 vysok\u00e9 d\u00e1vky t\u0159eba vitaminu C, kter\u00fd snad m\u011bl na tu st\u011bnu n\u011bjak\u00fd vliv a n\u011bjak se to pozastavilo, ale sou\u010dasn\u011b se ta terapie t\u011bch metli\u010dkov\u00fdch venekt\u00e1zi\u00ed d\u011bl\u00e1 tzv. skleroterapi\u00ed, co\u017e je takov\u00e1 metoda, p\u0159i kter\u00e9 se p\u0159\u00edmo do toho \u00fatvaru t\u00e9 \u017eilky vprav\u00ed speci\u00e1ln\u00ed roztok, v\u011bt\u0161inou na b\u00e1zi tekutiny, anebo na b\u00e1zi p\u011bny, kter\u00e1 se tam zavede takovou drobnou malinkatou Jehli\u010dkou a za \u010das ta \u017dilka obliteruje, zmiz\u00ed, ud\u011bl\u00e1 se z n\u00ed vazivov\u00fd prou\u017eek a viditeln\u00e1 nen\u00ed. Jako sou\u010d\u00e1st je\u0161t\u011b t\u00e9to terapie je, \u017ee pacientka mus\u00ed nosit minim\u00e1ln\u011b po tom v\u00fdkonu kompresn\u00ed pun\u010dochy, v\u011bt\u0161inou to neb\u00fdv\u00e1 jenom jedno sezen\u00ed, ale n\u011bkolik sezen\u00ed za sebou. M\u011bla by nosit teda elastick\u00e9 pun\u010dochy, pokud mo\u017eno a\u017e na stehno. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b doporu\u010duje se ne klidov\u00fd re\u017eim a naopak sp\u00ed\u0161 norm\u00e1ln\u00ed &#8211; t\u0159eba j\u00edzda na kole, b\u011b\u017en\u00fd chozen\u00ed, b\u011bh\u00e1n\u00ed, ale pr\u00e1v\u011b v t\u011bchto pun\u010doch\u00e1ch. Ale probl\u00e9m je, \u017ee v podstat\u011b, kdy\u017e o\u0161et\u0159\u00edte ty \u017eilky na jednom m\u00edst\u011b, je velk\u00e1 pravd\u011bpodobnost, \u017ee se d\u0159\u00edv nebo pozd\u011bji m\u016f\u017eou objevit i jinde.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A je to nutn\u00e9 z hlediska zdravotn\u00edho je odstra\u0148ovat. Nebo to sp\u00ed\u0161 \u017eeny cht\u011bj\u00ed z toho hlediska estetick\u00e9ho?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Z toho hlediska v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b estetick\u00e9ho, proto\u017ee skute\u010dn\u011b jsou v\u00fdrazn\u00e9 a sv\u00e1d\u00ed to se na to d\u00edvat. Tak\u017ee je to v\u011bt\u0161inou estetick\u00e9 hledisko. \u017de by ohro\u017eovaly na zdrav\u00ed, \u017ee by z toho snad m\u011bly b\u00fdt n\u011bjak\u00e9 tromb\u00f3zy nebo n\u011bjak\u00fd defekty na k\u016f\u017ei, tak to nehroz\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>My jsme mluvili o tom, jak ulevit obt\u00ed\u017e\u00edm, kdy\u017e m\u00e1 \u010dlov\u011bk pocit unaven\u00fdch t\u011b\u017ek\u00fdch nohou, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b kdy\u017e ot\u00e9kaj\u00ed pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159i k\u0159e\u010dov\u00fdch \u017eil\u00e1ch, \u017ee je dobr\u00e9 si je d\u00e1t nahoru. Taky se doporu\u010duj\u00ed st\u0159\u00eddat tepl\u00e1 ledov\u00e1 sprcha. A jedna poslucha\u010dka se pt\u00e1 na saunov\u00e1n\u00ed, pokud \u010dlov\u011bk trp\u00ed na k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly, jestli je to pro n\u011bj vhodn\u00e9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pr\u00e1v\u011b to st\u0159\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed studen\u00e9ho a hork\u00e9ho prost\u0159ed\u00ed v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b rozh\u00fdbe takzvan\u011b tu \u017eiln\u00ed svalovinu, tak\u017ee ty \u017e\u00edly jsou jakoby kompresibiln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, ale dlouhodob\u00e9 sezen\u00ed v n\u011bjak\u00fdch parn\u00edch provozech a hork\u00fdch provozech a v\u00fdrazn\u011b hork\u00e9 vod\u011b se sp\u00ed\u0161 nedoporu\u010duje, proto\u017ee vede k dilataci, rozta\u017een\u00ed t\u011bch \u017eil. A v podstat\u011b se v\u00e1m ta \u017eiln\u00ed hypertenze, o kter\u00e9 jsem hovo\u0159il, m\u016f\u017ee v\u00fdrazn\u011b zhor\u0161ovat. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Jak\u00fd je v\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1zor na r\u016fzn\u00e9 masti\u010dky a zklid\u0148uj\u00edc\u00ed gely?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To je v podstat\u011b symptomatick\u00e1 terapie, kdy\u017e to bol\u00ed, tak m\u016f\u017eeme pou\u017e\u00edt n\u011bjak\u00fd antirevmatika, kter\u00fd situaci v\u00fdrazn\u011b uklidn\u00ed, ale nel\u00e9\u010d\u00ed to. Nezmiz\u00ed, jakmile u\u017e jednou jsou viditeln\u00e9, a to dokonce i v tom t\u011bhotenstv\u00ed, kdy\u017e se objev\u00ed, tak po porodu nezmiz\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pan doktor pracuje v c\u00e9vn\u00ed poradn\u011b v Oblastn\u00ed nemocnici v Trutnov\u011b. Jak vy\u0161et\u0159ujete? N\u011bkdy je to vid\u011bt na prvn\u00ed pohled, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, kdy\u017e u\u017e ty uzl\u00edky jsou hodn\u011b vid\u011bt, n\u011bkdy mo\u017en\u00e1 ne. Jak\u00e9 jsou metody vy\u0161et\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V podstat\u011b z\u00e1kladem je klinick\u00e9 vy\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed, kde, kam a\u017e sahaj\u00ed ty varikozity, odkud, kam vedou a dal\u0161\u00edm kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00fdm vy\u0161et\u0159en\u00edm pro zejm\u00e9na n\u00e1slednou operativu, je vy\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed ultrazvukov\u00e9, kdy ultrazvukem zji\u0161\u0165ujeme, jak vypad\u00e1 ten hlubok\u00fd \u017eiln\u00ed syst\u00e9m, zda tam nejsou n\u011bjak\u00e9 sten\u00f3zy nebo respektive desten\u00f3zy, n\u011bjak\u00e9 uz\u00e1v\u011bry po t\u0159eba i p\u0159echozen\u00fdch hlubok\u00fdch tromb\u00f3z\u00e1ch, kter\u00fdch si pacient ani nemus\u00ed v\u0161imnout. A sledujeme je\u0161t\u011b tzv. refluxn\u00ed body, to jsou m\u00edsta, kdy z toho \u017eiln\u00edho syst\u00e9mu jsou rozta\u017eeny tzv. perfor\u00e1torov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly, co\u017e jsou \u017e\u00edly, kter\u00e9 spojuj\u00ed ten povrchov\u00fd a hlubok\u00fd \u017eiln\u00ed syst\u00e9m, kter\u00e9 se taky n\u011bjak m\u016f\u017eou dilatovat a chlopn\u011b v nich jsou potom nefunk\u010dn\u00ed a vlastn\u011b se krev dok\u00e1\u017ee drr\u00e9novat i z toho hlubok\u00e9ho \u017eiln\u00edho syst\u00e9mu takhle patologicky do toho povrchov\u00e9ho \u017eiln\u00edho syst\u00e9mu a tyto spojky by se m\u011bly vyhled\u00e1vat a n\u00e1sledn\u011b i podvazovat ty perfor\u00e1tory. V\u00fdrazn\u011b to zlep\u0161uje potom klinick\u00fd efekt t\u00e9 opera\u010dn\u00ed terapie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, a v\u00edm, \u017ee i potom t\u0159eba p\u0159i takov\u00e9m vy\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed p\u0159ed operac\u00ed si doktor d\u011bl\u00e1 na pacienta k\u0159\u00ed\u017eky do r\u016fzn\u00fdch m\u00edst.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tomu se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 takzvan\u011b mapping, \u017ee si p\u0159\u00edmo ozna\u010duje ty varikozity, proto\u017ee jakmile pacient zaujme tu horizont\u00e1ln\u00ed polohu, obvykle zmiz\u00ed ty varikozity, tak\u017ee by to pom\u011brn\u011b slo\u017eit\u011b hledal, tak\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd m\u00e1 na to tro\u0161ku n\u011bjakou speci\u00e1ln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed metodu, jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem si ozna\u010duje ty varikozity. Ale m\u011bl by m\u00edt v\u017edycky p\u0159edem ozna\u010den\u00e9 tam, kde jsou nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed ozna\u010den\u00e9 i ty z ultrazvuku, refluxn\u00ed body, a podle toho se potom vede ta opera\u010dn\u00ed terapie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Kdy\u017e je pot\u0159eba odstranit k\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly, tak jsou r\u016fzn\u00e9 metody asi hlavn\u00ed. V\u017edycky se tak lidi mezi sebou ptaj\u00ed a jde\u0161 klasickou metodou nebo jde\u0161 t\u0159eba laserem? Existuj\u00ed modern\u00ed metody, kter\u00e9 se ale v\u011bt\u0161inou plat\u00ed. Ale to nevad\u00ed. To te\u010f nechme stranou, jak\u00e9 jsou v tom hlavn\u00ed rozd\u00edly, je ta klasick\u00e1 operace P\u0159ece jenom t\u0159eba \u00fa\u010dinn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, trvalej\u0161\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To je dlouhodob\u00fdm jako p\u0159edm\u011btem r\u016fzn\u00fdch spor\u016f, \u017ee se po\u0159\u00e1d diskutuje o tom, kter\u00e1 metoda je asi efektn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed a m\u00e1 m\u00e9n\u011b komplikaci a podobn\u011b, ale posledn\u00ed konsenzus je, \u017ee ty metody jsou v podstat\u011b z\u00e1stupn\u00fd, ta endoskopick\u00e1 nebo ta endovaskul\u00e1rn\u00ed terapie v podstat\u011b m\u00e1 men\u0161\u00ed jizvi\u010dky, m\u00e1 t\u0159eba jenom jednu jizvu nebo jenom n\u011bkolik m\u00e1lo, je takov\u00e1 pro pacienta v lok\u00e1ln\u00edm o\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed, \u0161et\u0159\u00ed toho pacienta v\u00edc. Zat\u00edmco ta klasick\u00e1 operace je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b v nark\u00f3ze nebo v n\u011bjak\u00e9 svodn\u00e9 anestezii, t\u011bch jizvi\u010dek je v\u00edc, ale zas na druhou stranu tou klasickou operac\u00ed dok\u00e1\u017eeme o\u0161et\u0159it oblast toho t\u0159\u00edsla, to je m\u00edsto, kde se ta velk\u00e1 saf\u00e9na, velk\u00e1 skryt\u00e1 \u017e\u00edla vl\u00e9v\u00e1 do t\u00e9 hlubok\u00e9 femor\u00e1ln\u00ed \u017e\u00edly a tam b\u00fdv\u00e1 cel\u00e1 \u0159ada r\u016fzn\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edtok\u016f, kter\u00e9 dok\u00e1\u017eou sytit tu \u017e\u00edlu tak, \u017ee se potom rozvine a\u017e do t\u011bch, ve velk\u00fdch varikozit, tak\u017ee v\u00fdhodou t\u00e9 klasick\u00e9 operace je, \u017ee se obvykle dok\u00e1\u017ee o\u0161et\u0159it oblast toho t\u0159\u00edsla, kam se endovaskul\u00e1rn\u011b p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 \u010dasto nechod\u00ed, proto\u017ee je tady ur\u010dit\u00fd strach z toho, \u017ee by to pop\u00e1len\u00ed nebo laserov\u00e1 terapie mohla zp\u016fsobit i hlubokou \u017eiln\u00ed tromb\u00f3zu a v t\u00e9to oblasti by to byla pom\u011brn\u011b vysok\u00e1 tzv. ileofemor\u00e1ln\u00ed tromb\u00f3za, kter\u00e1 je pro pacienta v\u00fdrazn\u011b mitiguj\u00edc\u00ed, tak\u017ee ty endovaskul\u00e1rn\u00ed operace kon\u010d\u00ed t\u0159eba centimetr nebo 2 cm p\u0159ed pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u00edm vy\u00fast\u011bn\u00edm t\u00e9 velk\u00e9 skryt\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly do hlubok\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly stehenn\u00ed, a tzv. crossektomie, tedy odstran\u011bn\u00ed t\u011bch p\u0159\u00edtok\u016f do tohoto soutoku se b\u011b\u017en\u011b neprov\u00e1d\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A te\u010f je\u0161t\u011b technicky, kdy\u017e se na to pod\u00edv\u00e1me, tak p\u0159i t\u00e9 klasick\u00e9 operaci vity nefunk\u010dn\u00ed nebo \u0161patn\u011b funk\u010dn\u00ed \u017e\u00edly \u00fapln\u011b vynd\u00e1te, p\u0159i tom laseru se d\u011bl\u00e1 n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho&#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>p\u0159itom laseru&#8230;. tak podstata t\u011bch endovaskul\u00e1rn\u00edch operac\u00ed je, \u017ee vy do t\u00e9 \u017e\u00edly d\u00e1te n\u011bjakou fyzik\u00e1ln\u00ed modalitu, t\u0159eba termicky v podstat\u011b pop\u00e1l\u00edte ji zevnit\u0159. Nej\u010dast\u011bji se to d\u011bl\u00e1 laserem, je to dost podobn\u00e9, taky prost\u011b pop\u00e1l\u00edte tu \u017e\u00edlu zevnit\u0159. Existuje dokonce i metoda, kdy ji v podstat\u011b uva\u0159\u00edte, d\u011bl\u00e1 se to p\u00e1rou. A posledn\u00edm hitem jsou akryl\u00e1tov\u00e1 lepidla, kter\u00e1 se tam instaluj\u00ed. Tak\u017ee podstatou je, \u017ee v\u017edycky vyvol\u00e1te n\u011bjak\u00e9 podr\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed, zni\u010den\u00ed t\u00e9 vnit\u0159n\u00ed v\u00fdstelky \u017e\u00edly, kter\u00e9mu se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 endotel a v podstat\u011b zp\u016fsob\u00ed such\u00fd z\u00e1n\u011bt, \u0159ekn\u011bme, a ta \u017e\u00edla se p\u0159em\u011bn\u00ed na vazivov\u00fd prou\u017eek a zmiz\u00ed. Nen\u00ed prost\u011b prom\u00fdv\u00e1na, krev tam nete\u010de a t\u00edm p\u00e1dem opticky zmiz\u00ed a u t\u00e9 klasick\u00e9 operace tam v podstat\u011b si tu \u017eilku z takov\u00e9 drobn\u00e9 incize najdeme a dokonce dok\u00e1\u017eeme t\u0159eba i dva centimetry na jednu, na druhou stranu, i vyndat ven nad k\u016f\u017ei, zressekovat je, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee v podstat\u011b odstran\u00edme, tak\u017ee v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b t\u011bch endovaskul\u00e1rn\u00edch v\u00fdkon\u016f tam \u017dilka z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1, v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b klasick\u00fdch tam opravdu nen\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A kdy\u017e tam z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1, nep\u0159eb\u00fdv\u00e1, potom nevad\u00ed to tam, kdy\u017e tam z\u016fstane?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ne, ne. \u017diln\u00ed syst\u00e9m je tam bohat\u00fd, tak\u017ee si ur\u010dit\u011b najde cestu n\u011bjakou jinou \u017dilkou, ale tahle z\u016fstane prost\u011b n\u011bm\u00e1, neoz\u00fdv\u00e1 se a nen\u00ed prost\u011b prom\u00fdvan\u00e1 a nen\u00ed vid\u011bt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>T\u00edm p\u00e1dem ani&#8230;..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Nechyb\u00ed, ur\u010dit\u011b, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, 85 % krve doln\u00edch kon\u010detin se dr\u00e9nuje hlubok\u00fdm \u017eiln\u00edm syst\u00e9mem, nikoliv t\u00edm Povrchov\u00fdm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>pak nast\u00e1v\u00e1 no\u0161en\u00ed kompresn\u00edch pun\u010doch. Kouk\u00e1m se, \u017ee nasko\u010dil dotaz od pan\u00ed Zdeny, jestli si m\u00e1 do letadla br\u00e1t stahovac\u00ed pun\u010dochy&#8230;..pokra\u010duje te\u010f s telefonick\u00fdm dotazem. Dobr\u00e9 dopoledne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 4,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Dobr\u00fd den.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Dobr\u00fd den. Tak u\u017e se m\u016f\u017eete pt\u00e1t pana doktora. U\u017e dnes poslouch\u00e1me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 4,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, je mi 82 let a cht\u011bla jsem se jenom zeptat od r\u00e1dia, cht\u011bla jsem se zeptat, jestli je mo\u017en\u00fd k\u0159e\u010dov\u00fd \u017e\u00edly taky na ruk\u00e1ch M\u00edt a p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b operovat. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Je to velmi, velmi zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed a velmi vz\u00e1cn\u00fd a m\u016f\u017eou se vyskytovat, ale v\u011bt\u0161inou to b\u00fdv\u00e1 spojeno s t\u00edm, \u017ee na t\u011bch horn\u00edch kon\u010detin\u00e1ch b\u00fdv\u00e1 patologicky vrozen\u011b spojen\u00e1 tepna se \u017e\u00edlou, tak\u017ee \u010d\u00e1st krve z t\u00e9 tepny pronik\u00e1 do toho povrchov\u00e9ho \u017eivotn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu horn\u00ed kon\u010detiny a m\u016f\u017eou se ud\u011blat varikozity t\u00edm zp\u016fsobem, \u017ee je p\u0159et\u011b\u017eovan\u00fd ten \u017eiln\u00ed syst\u00e9m na t\u00e9 horn\u00ed kon\u010detin\u011b. A j\u00e1 jsem to vid\u011bl jenom jednou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak a my jsme se cht\u011bli dostat i ke kompresn\u00ed terapii, k \u010demu\u017e n\u00e1m nahr\u00e1v\u00e1 pan\u00ed Zdena, kter\u00e1 p\u00ed\u0161e dotaz emailem. Dobr\u00fd den. m\u00e1m si na dv\u011b hodiny letu vz\u00edt stahovac\u00ed pun\u010dochy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V\u0161eobecn\u011b bych doporu\u010doval, kdy\u017e lid\u00e9 l\u00edtaj\u00ed v\u00edc jak t\u0159i hodiny, tak by ty kompresivn\u00ed pun\u010dochy, zejm\u00e9na je-li jim t\u0159eba nad 70 let, tak by je m\u011bli pou\u017e\u00edvat zcela ur\u010dit\u011b. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee i mlad\u0161\u00ed ro\u010dn\u00edky by z toho profitovaly. Dv\u011b hodiny letu je\u0161t\u011b nen\u00ed a\u017e tak \u00fapln\u011b dlouh\u00fd, ale pro to pohodl\u00ed, proto\u017ee ty nohy jsou v skr\u010den\u00e9 poloze v mal\u00e9m prostoru, tak maj\u00ed tendenci potom ot\u00e9kat a pobol\u00edvat. Kdy\u017e ne ty dlouh\u00fd a\u017e na stehno pun\u010dochy, tak podkolenky by pacientka ur\u010dit\u011b snesla.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tyhle ty stahovac\u00ed pun\u010dochy po operaci, ur\u010dit\u011b, ale t\u0159eba je\u0161t\u011b, ne\u017e dojde k operaci, kdy\u017e to je\u0161t\u011b nen\u00ed tak akutn\u00ed, m\u011bli by je lid\u00e9 nosit pravideln\u011b?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>M\u011bli by je nosit, proto\u017ee do jist\u00e9 m\u00edry se d\u00e1 dal\u0161\u00ed rozvoj t\u011bch varikozit zastavit a hlavn\u011b l\u00e9\u010dit symptomy. Tak\u017ee kdy\u017e ty lidi cel\u00fd den nos\u00ed ty kompresivn\u00ed pun\u010dochy, nemus\u00ed doma, kdy\u017e potom jenom posed\u00e1vaj\u00ed a kdy\u017e maj\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9 povol\u00e1n\u00ed jako \u010d\u00ed\u0161n\u00edci, prod\u00e1va\u010dky nebo jin\u00fd povol\u00e1n\u00ed, kdy po\u0159\u00e1d chod\u00ed, tak rozhodn\u011b z toho maj\u00ed u\u017eitek, proto\u017ee ty nohy nejsou ve\u010der tak otekl\u00e9, nebol\u00ed, nemaj\u00ed takovou t\u00edhu v t\u011bch noh\u00e1ch, tak\u017ee kompresivn\u00ed terapie je zlat\u00fdm standardem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak\u017ee t\u0159eba i v tom t\u011bhotenstv\u00ed, kter\u00e9 jsme tady zm\u00ednili, abychom p\u0159ede\u0161li n\u011bjak\u00e9mu zhor\u0161en\u00e9mu stavu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ano, tam to bude m\u00edt taky takov\u00fd ur\u010dit\u00fd efekt, \u017ee nebudou tak rychle se roz\u0161i\u0159ovat. Ano, ale jak mus\u00edm zm\u00ednit, ani po porodu u\u017e pak varixy nezmiz\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>A kdy\u017e jsme se bavili o operac\u00edch a o t\u011bch r\u016fzn\u00fdch z\u00e1kroc\u00edch, tak je\u0161t\u011b se pt\u00e1 pan\u00ed poslucha\u010dka, \u017ee sly\u0161ela o metod\u011b zmrazov\u00e1n\u00ed, tak jestli n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho taky existuje?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Sly\u0161el jsem leccos, ale zrovna zmrazov\u00e1n\u00ed jsem je\u0161t\u011b nesly\u0161el na kongresech. Jak jsem zmi\u0148oval, b\u00fdv\u00e1 to termicky, o radiofrekven\u010dn\u00ed ablaci v\u00edm. Sly\u0161el jsem o p\u00e1\u0159e, \u017ee se to skute\u010dn\u011b v podstat\u011b uva\u0159\u00ed. Laser je takov\u00fdm zlat\u00fdm standardem, pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 se nej\u010dast\u011bji a v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b doporu\u010dovali a ukazovali na kongresech, \u017ee maj\u00ed akryl\u00e1tov\u00e1 lepidla&#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To lepidlo, to se potom n\u011bjak vst\u0159eb\u00e1?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To tam asi z\u016fstane.M\u00e1 ten stejn\u00fd efekt, prost\u011b z\u016fstane jenom v t\u00e9 \u017e\u00edle a zabra\u0148uje jej\u00edmu pr\u016ftoku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak, abychom odpov\u011bd\u011bli je\u0161t\u011b na dal\u0161\u00ed dotazy, dotaz od pan\u00ed Hanky&#8230;.. K\u0159e\u010dov\u00e9 \u017d\u00edly jsou u n\u00e1s d\u011bdi\u010dn\u00e9. Jednu nohu m\u00e1m po operaci laserem. Tam u\u017e byly hodn\u011b viditeln\u00e9, u druh\u00e9 nohy m\u00e1m operaci tak\u00e9 doporu\u010denou, ale \u017e\u00edly zat\u00edm nejsou v\u016fbec vid\u011bt. M\u016f\u017eu je\u0161t\u011b po\u010dkat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>V\u017edycky z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom, jak\u00fd m\u00e1 pacient symptomy, zda pacientku to obt\u011b\u017euje, jestli jsou tam u\u017e p\u0159\u00edtomn\u00e9 ty otoky, bolesti, tak je to na zv\u00e1\u017een\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak a je\u0161t\u011b dal\u0161\u00ed dotaz &#8230;. pan\u00ed Je po operaci zhruba osm m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f. St\u00e1le jsou vid\u011bt vpichy, jak\u00e1 je \u0161ance, \u017ee \u00fapln\u011b zmiz\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Bude muset po\u010dkat. Tvrd\u00ed se, \u017ee po roce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Tak\u017ee zat\u00edm je to osm m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f. A je\u0161t\u011b se pt\u00e1, n\u011bkolik vpich\u016f m\u00e1m ze strany u kolene. Toto m\u00edsto je st\u00e1le citliv\u00e9. Kdy\u017e m\u00e1 nohu del\u0161\u00ed dobu ohnutou v koleni, tak to v ohybu bol\u00ed. \u010c\u00edm je to, pros\u00edm, zp\u016fsobeno?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To je ot\u00e1zka mo\u017en\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00fdm naru\u0161en\u00fdm podko\u017en\u00edm senzitivn\u00edm nervem, \u017ee se n\u011bkdo trefil tak, \u017ee to takhle zlob\u00ed, ale i toto by m\u011blo p\u0159estat. Tak a\u0165 pacientka zkou\u0161\u00ed t\u0159eba aplikovat n\u011bjak\u00fd nesteroidn\u00ed antirevmatika, ibalginov\u00fd kr\u00e9m nebo voltaren nebo n\u011bco podobn\u00fdho, aplikuje to pravideln\u011b t\u0159eba dvakr\u00e1t denn\u011b a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee se ty symptomy zmen\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>No, a je\u0161t\u011b jeden takov\u00fd v\u0161ete\u010dn\u00fd dotaz od pan\u00ed poslucha\u010dky, kdy\u017e jsme zmi\u0148ovali, \u017ee jedn\u00edm z rizik m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt i vznik v\u0159ed\u016f. Tak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b b\u00e9rcov\u00e9 v\u0159edy, to je b\u011bh na dlouhou tra\u0165. A ona se pt\u00e1, m\u00e1 zn\u00e1m\u00e9 v N\u011bmecku, kde se to l\u00e9\u010d\u00ed pomoc\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00fdch t\u011bch \u010derv\u00edk\u016f, tak jestli t\u0159eba n\u011bkde tady v \u010cech\u00e1ch se to taky d\u011bl\u00e1, jestli je to osv\u011bd\u010den\u00e9?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>mluv\u010d\u00ed 2,<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>Ty ulcerace, tam je pot\u0159eba zv\u00e1\u017eit, jakou etiologii ty ulcerace maj\u00ed, jsou defekty, kter\u00e9 vznikaj\u00ed na z\u00e1klad\u011b nepr\u016fchodnosti tepen, pak jsou ty, kter\u00e9 jsou na z\u00e1klad\u011b pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u011bhle t\u011bch varikozit, tak\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e1 etiologie toho defektu je tro\u0161ku jin\u00e1, a kdy\u017e jsou defekty t\u0159eba \u017eiln\u00edho p\u016fvodu a jsou hodn\u011b zne\u010di\u0161t\u011bn\u00e9, tak se m\u016f\u017ee pou\u017e\u00edt a pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 se ta terapie pomoc\u00ed \u010derv\u016f a dojde k v\u00fdrazn\u00e9mu vy\u010di\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed toho defektu a v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b \u017eiln\u00edho se mo\u017en\u00e1 i rychleji zhoj\u00ed ty defekty, kter\u00e9 jsou zp\u016fsobeny tou obliterac\u00ed t\u011bch tepen. Nepr\u016fchodnost tepen se hoj\u00ed daleko pomaleji, a je\u0161t\u011b speci\u00e1ln\u00ed jednotkou jsou defekty, kter\u00e9 vznikaj\u00ed u diabetik\u016f, tam je to v\u016fbec slo\u017eit\u00fd medic\u00ednsk\u00fd probl\u00e9m, ale ta terapie t\u011bmi \u010dervy se skute\u010dn\u011b pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1, je to zaj\u00edmav\u00fd. Skute\u010dn\u011b vy\u017eerou jen tu \u0161patnou tk\u00e1\u0148 a tu zdravou nech\u00e1vaj\u00ed. Ale pacienti to docela t\u011b\u017ece sn\u00e1\u0161ej\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jana Kudyvejsov\u00e1, moder\u00e1torka<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>To v\u011b\u0159\u00edm. Tak my jsme se sna\u017eili odpov\u011bd\u011bt opravdu na v\u0161echny dotazy, kter\u00e9 jste zavolali, kter\u00e9 n\u00e1m p\u0159i\u0161ly. D\u011bkujeme za dne\u0161n\u00ed n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvu a na sly\u0161enou.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>\u010cRo pan MUDr. Pavel Ko\u0159\u00ednek z Oblastn\u00ed nemocnice v Trutnov\u011b p\u016fsob\u00ed v c\u00e9vn\u00ed poradn\u011b. Dobr\u00e9 dopoledne, v\u00edtejte. 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