Kv\u016fli rusk\u00e9 invazi, kter\u00e1 za\u010dala p\u0159ed v\u00edce ne\u017e 3 lety, opustily Ukrajinu miliony lid\u00ed, statis\u00edce z nich na\u0161ly \u00fato\u010di\u0161t\u011b v \u010cesku. Nevl\u00e1dn\u00ed organizace, kter\u00e9 uprchl\u00edk\u016fm pom\u00e1haj\u00ed, te\u010f vyhodnotily, jak st\u00e1t zvl\u00e1dnul jejich za\u010dle\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed. Na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b vl\u00e1du chv\u00e1l\u00ed za to, \u017ee se j\u00ed poda\u0159ilo p\u0159ijmout tolik ukrajinsk\u00fdch uprchl\u00edk\u016f. Na druh\u00e9 stran\u011b ale kritizuj\u00ed, \u017ee jim nebyla schopn\u00e1 zajistit dlouhodobou podporu. Je takov\u00e9 hodnocen\u00ed na m\u00edst\u011b nebo je v\u016f\u010di vl\u00e1d\u011b a st\u00e1tu p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 p\u0159\u00edkr\u00e9? Funguje \u010desk\u00e1 pomoc tak, jak by m\u011bla nebo m\u00e1 z\u00e1sadn\u00ed nedostatky a je st\u00e1t v\u016f\u010di Ukrajinc\u016fm dostate\u010dn\u011b vst\u0159\u00edcn\u00fd nebo naopak zbyte\u010dn\u011b p\u0159\u00edsn\u00fd? Na\u0161imi hosty tady ve studiu jsou koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f na ministerstvu pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1 z hnut\u00ed STAN, kter\u00e1 kandiduje v nadch\u00e1zej\u00edc\u00edch sn\u011bmovn\u00edch volb\u00e1ch. A novin\u00e1\u0159ka z den\u00edku A2larm Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, kter\u00e1 se integraci Ukrajinc\u016f v \u010cesku dlouhodob\u011b v\u011bnuje. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1 za\u010dn\u011bme od v\u00e1s, d\u011bl\u00e1 st\u00e1t v oblasti za\u010dle\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed ukrajinsk\u00fdch uprchl\u00edk\u016f dost? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ono se nem\u016f\u017ee to vy\u010dlenit z cel\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu, je to vlastn\u011b komplexn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edstup mezirezortn\u00ed, mezioborov\u00fd, tak\u017ee sp\u00ed\u0161 bychom se pak mohli bavit o konkr\u00e9tn\u00edch p\u0159\u00edstupech, konkr\u00e9tn\u00edch oblastech, ale v glob\u00e1lu… <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Obecn\u011b, kdybyste m\u011bla odpov\u011bd\u011bt na \u00favod. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ano, d\u011bl\u00e1me, co se d\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Na \u00favod to \u00fapln\u011b sta\u010d\u00ed. V\u00e1\u0161 pohled, pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Ne, st\u00e1t ned\u011bl\u00e1 dost. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pro\u010d ne?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> No, tak to je jako na d\u00fdl. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Tak m\u00e1me 20 minut sta\u010d\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Dob\u0159e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> T\u00edm ne\u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee byste te\u010f 20 minut mohla mluvit, ale kdybyste…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> \u0158eknu ano, tak \u0159eknu jednu t\u0159eba v\u011bc, kterou pova\u017euju za d\u016fle\u017eitou. M\u00e1me tady lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u0159i\u0161li z jin\u00fdho st\u00e1tu, jsou tu lidi, kter\u00fd jsou nap\u0159\u00ed\u010d soci\u00e1ln\u00edma skupinama, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee by teoreticky mohli tady d\u011blat taky r\u016fzn\u00fd pr\u00e1ce, proto\u017ee n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed z nich jsou vzd\u011blan\u00ed, jin\u00ed ne, \u0159ada z t\u011bch, co jsou vzd\u011blan\u00ed, tak pracuj\u00ed jako ukl\u00edze\u010dky nebo d\u011blaj\u00ed nekvalifikovanou pr\u00e1ci n\u011bkde v tov\u00e1rn\u00e1ch, proto\u017ee vlastn\u011b nedostali mo\u017enost nau\u010dit se dob\u0159e \u010desky a pracovat na v\u00fd\u0161i sv\u00e9 kvalifikace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Tak to je konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed v\u00fdhrada, od kter\u00e9 se m\u016f\u017eeme tak\u0159\u00edkaj\u00edc odp\u00edchnout. Obrac\u00edm se na v\u00e1s, pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, nen\u00ed to selh\u00e1n\u00ed integra\u010dn\u00edho procesu ukrajinsk\u00fdch uprchl\u00edk\u016f, \u017ee \u0159ada z nich, jak ukazuj\u00ed pr\u016fzkumy, po\u0159\u00e1d vykon\u00e1v\u00e1 nekvalifikovan\u00e1 zam\u011bstn\u00e1n\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> To je pr\u00e1v\u011b ot\u00e1zka opravdu na del\u0161\u00ed dobu. A pokud tady m\u00e1me p\u00e1r minut, tak bych se r\u00e1da dr\u017eela konkr\u00e9tn\u00edch \u010d\u00edsel, proto jsem, s dovolen\u00edm, t\u0159eba vzala i tady kolegyni nebo v\u00e1m ty podklady, kter\u00e9 jsou velice aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> D\u011bkujeme a co z t\u011bch podklad\u016f vypl\u00fdv\u00e1? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Podle t\u011bch vypl\u00fdv\u00e1, \u017ee zam\u011bstnanost je pom\u011brn\u011b vysok\u00e1 a do na\u0161eho st\u00e1tn\u00edho rozpo\u010dtu t\u00edm p\u00e1dem p\u0159isp\u00edvaj\u00ed osoby s do\u010dasnou ochranou mnohem v\u00edce… <\/p>\n\n\n\n moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Nezlobte se, \u017ee v\u00e1s p\u0159eru\u0161uju, ale ta v\u00fdhrada, kterou jsme tady sly\u0161eli od pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e9, se net\u00fdkala toho, \u017ee by snad zam\u011bstnanost Ukrajinc\u016f nebyla vysok\u00e1, ale t\u00fdkala se toho, \u017ee \u0159ada z nich vykon\u00e1v\u00e1 nekvalifikovan\u00e1 povol\u00e1n\u00ed, by\u0165 t\u0159eba p\u0159i\u0161li s kvalifikac\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ano, s t\u00edm souhlas\u00edm, ale op\u011bt, je to vytr\u017een\u00e9 z kontextu, nelze takhle globalizovat, jsou kvalifikovan\u00e1 zam\u011bstn\u00e1n\u00ed a jsou nekvalifikovan\u00e1. Tak\u017ee j\u00e1 jsem v\u00e1m tam p\u0159edlo\u017eila i tabulku, kde je to rozpracovan\u00e9 podle t\u011bch odv\u011btv\u00ed. A ur\u010dit\u011b, jak jsem \u0159\u00edkala zpo\u010d\u00e1tku, je to \u017eiv\u00fd organismus, st\u00e1le se to vyv\u00edj\u00ed, ta adaptace integrace, tak\u017ee…aby pr\u00e1v\u011b kvalifikovan\u00e9 s\u00edly opravdu vykon\u00e1valy tu svoji vlastn\u00ed kvalifikaci nebo si roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159ily na na\u0161em \u00fazem\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e1,… <\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> J\u00e1 bych se cht\u011bl zeptat, jak ty snahy vypadaj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> J\u00e1 jsem se cht\u011bl pr\u00e1v\u011b zeptat v\u00e1s, pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e1, jestli vy ty snahy ze strany st\u00e1tu, nezaznamen\u00e1v\u00e1te snahy, tedy aby Ukrajinci pracovali v oblastech, pro kter\u00e9 maj\u00ed kvalifikaci a ne, aby d\u011blali n\u011bjak\u00e9 nekvalifikovan\u00e9 pr\u00e1ce? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> N\u011bkde existuj\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9 jazykov\u00e9 kurzy nap\u0159\u00edklad, tak to vn\u00edm\u00e1m jako snahu, ne\u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee neexistuj\u00ed v\u016fbec, ale mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee je jich hanebn\u011b m\u00e1lo. A jinak jsem se cht\u011bla zeptat, jestli krom\u011b teda toho, \u017ee n\u011bkde jsou ty jazykov\u00e9 kurzy, ale nejsou zdaleka v\u0161ude dostupn\u00e9, z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b na tom, jestli ti lidi \u017eij\u00ed t\u0159eba ve v\u011bt\u0161\u00edm m\u011bst\u011b. Tak jak\u00fd dal\u0161\u00ed kroky d\u011bl\u00e1 st\u00e1t pro to, aby ti lidi pracovali na \u00farovni sv\u00fd kvalifikace? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Tak myslel jsem si p\u016fvodn\u011b, \u017ee se tady dneska budu pt\u00e1t j\u00e1, ale j\u00e1 dovol\u00edm tuto ot\u00e1zku pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e9 na v\u00e1s, pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Takhle, j\u00e1 ch\u00e1pu, kam je to m\u00ed\u0159eno. J\u00e1 si moc v\u00e1\u017e\u00edm va\u0161\u00ed pr\u00e1ce a hlavn\u011b z\u00e1jmu v\u00e1s obou, i poslucha\u010d\u016f, \u017ee jako n\u00e1s v\u016fbec poslouchaj\u00ed v tento \u010das, ale op\u011bt se mus\u00edm vr\u00e1tit k tomu sv\u00e9mu obvykl\u00e9mu, \u017ee je to vytr\u017een\u00e9 z kontextu, proto\u017ee ono to… vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed ve kvalifikovan\u00fdch pozic\u00edch u\u017e za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 t\u00edm \u0161kolstv\u00edm, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b jazykov\u00e1 pr\u016fprava je z\u00e1kladem, to jako o tom \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1, proto\u017ee samoz\u0159ejm\u011b nap\u0159\u00edklad pedagogov\u00e9 mus\u00ed splnit minim\u00e1ln\u011b C \u00farove\u0148. Zdravotn\u00edci ve v\u0161ech \u00farovn\u00edch, a\u0165 u\u017e l\u00e9ka\u0159i, nel\u00e9ka\u0159i, ale to je pr\u00e1v\u011b to, co se tady opravdu \u0159e\u0161\u00ed v posledn\u00ed dob\u011b, ne\u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee hned od prvn\u00edch dn\u016f, to ur\u010dit\u011b ne, proto\u017ee nikdo jsme nev\u011bd\u011bl, s \u010d\u00edm se vlastn\u011b setk\u00e1me. Bylo to sp\u00ed\u0161 to emergentn\u00ed pom\u00e1h\u00e1n\u00ed, ta solidarita a tak…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Jak se to te\u010f \u0159e\u0161\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ano. A kdy\u017e se vr\u00e1t\u00edm p\u0159\u00edmo konkr\u00e9tn\u011b k t\u011bm jazykov\u00fdm kurz\u016fm, tak \u00da\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce m\u00e1 celoplo\u0161n\u011b, nejenom ve velk\u00fdch m\u011bstech, proto\u017ee d\u00e1 se vyu\u010dovat i online, tak m\u00e1 obrovskou podporu pr\u00e1v\u011b v t\u011bch jazykov\u00fdch kurzech, \u017ee se roz\u0161i\u0159uj\u00ed o ty vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed \u00farovn\u011b. A pokud je akreditovan\u00fd ten kurz, tak je pln\u011b hrazen\u00fd \u00da\u0159adem pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Dovolte, aby reagovala pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e1, tato pomoc, kter\u00e1 te\u010f byla zm\u00edn\u011bna, podle v\u00e1s, nesta\u010d\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Podle m\u011b nesta\u010d\u00ed. A je\u0161t\u011b jsem teda cht\u011bla \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee na tom \u00fa\u0159ad\u011b pr\u00e1ce mus\u00ed rozhodnout ta \u00fa\u0159ednice o tom, \u017ee ten \u010dlov\u011bk m\u016f\u017ee na ten kurz chodit, je to tak. A j\u00e1 m\u00e1m informace… <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1 kroutila hlavou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> J\u00e1 v\u00edm, ale j\u00e1 m\u00e1m informace o tom, \u017ee t\u0159eba se to jako ne v\u017edycky d\u011bje a m\u00e1m to od lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed doprov\u00e1zej\u00ed ty Ukrajince na ten \u00da\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce. A t\u0159eba v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, tady to byl \u0161estn\u00e1ctilet\u00fd kluk, tak ta pan\u00ed \u00fa\u0159ednice mu \u0159ekla, v\u017edy\u0165 on m\u00e1 n\u011bjakou tu \u0161kolu na YouTubu, tak pro\u010d jako to pot\u0159ebuje? Myslela t\u00edm asi, p\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1m, ukrajinskou \u0161kolu online. Tak\u017ee tam je\u0161t\u011b jakoby j\u00e1 bych, kdybych mohla poradit tomu st\u00e1tu, tak bych \u0161la mimo tu strukturu t\u011bch \u00fa\u0159ad\u016f pr\u00e1ce, jakkoliv v\u00edm, \u017ee to prost\u011b pro v\u00e1s je t\u011b\u017ek\u00fd si to p\u0159edstavit…<\/p>\n\n\n\n moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Jakou strukturu byste tedy vyu\u017eila? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Tak daj\u00ed se d\u011blat pob\u00eddky t\u0159eba ob\u010dansk\u00fdm organizac\u00edm, kter\u00fd jsou v\u0161ude po republice, aby ty kurzy nab\u00edzely, aby vyhodnotily, jestli t\u0159eba to m\u00e1 smysl, proto\u017ee s t\u011bma lidma pracujou a jsou s nima v mnohem v\u011bt\u0161\u00edm kontaktu ne\u017e na tom \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce, kam ten \u010dlov\u011bk dojde, a ty \u00fa\u0159ady jsou zavalen\u00fd, proto\u017ee jsou skute\u010dn\u011b zavalen\u00fd agendou a p\u0159id\u00e1vat jim cokoliv dal\u0161\u00edho, je podle m\u011b jako a\u017e nelidsk\u00fd v\u016f\u010di t\u011bm \u00fa\u0159ednic\u00edm. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, nebyla by tohle cesta ke zv\u00e1\u017een\u00ed za\u010dlenit nevl\u00e1dn\u00ed organizace do distribuce t\u00e9 pomoci nebo poskytov\u00e1n\u00ed kurzu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ano, ur\u010dit\u011b ano, j\u00e1 cen\u00edm va\u0161i zap\u00e1lenost, v tom budeme ur\u010dit\u011b ne pro a proti, ale v tom budeme absolutn\u011b v souladu, pr\u00e1v\u011b to byl ten d\u016fvod, pro\u010d jsem v\u016fbec nastoupila na MPSV. A pr\u00e1v\u011b proto, \u017ee to sledujeme ze v\u0161ech stran, m\u00e1me na n\u011bkolika \u00farovn\u00edch odborn\u00e9 platformy, nejenom mezirezortn\u00ed, ale pr\u00e1v\u011b taky s neziskov\u00fdm sektorem, s nevl\u00e1dn\u00edmi organizacemi, s odborn\u00edky, tak bohu\u017eel tuhle va\u0161i pozn\u00e1mku mus\u00edm vyhodnotit jako lichou, proto\u017ee j\u00e1 vych\u00e1z\u00edm ze sv\u00e9 osobn\u00ed zku\u0161enosti jak odborn\u00e9, tak opravdu osobn\u00ed, jako dobrovolnick\u00e9 a neziskov\u00fd sektor je maxim\u00e1ln\u011b zapojovan\u00fd, jsme tady v Praze na Vinohradech, nedaleko je, dejme tomu, Integra\u010dn\u00ed centrum Praha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> O neziskov\u00e9ho sektoru mluv\u00edm, \u017ee jo. Oni si pr\u00e1v\u011b st\u011b\u017euj\u00ed na to, \u017ee to ministerstvo nekomunikuje dostate\u010dn\u011b dob\u0159e. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> A kdo konkr\u00e9tn\u011b si st\u011b\u017euje, jestli m\u016f\u017eete \u0159\u00edct?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Tady nebudu jmenovat lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed si st\u011b\u017euj\u00ed, ale je\u0161t\u011b jsem cht\u011bla \u0159\u00edct… <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Nicm\u00e9n\u011b n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem ty neziskov\u00e9 organizace zapojeny jsou, to byste p\u0159ipustila?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Tak jako ano, n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem ano, ale zd\u00e1 se jim, \u017ee nejsou dostate\u010dn\u011b vysly\u0161eny potom v tom, co navrhuj\u00ed t\u0159eba za opat\u0159en\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pros\u00edm, nezapome\u0148te \u0159e\u010d. J\u00e1 bych te\u010f tady toto, co jste \u0159ekla…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ch\u00e1pu, \u017ee m\u00e1te spoustu ot\u00e1zek. A pr\u00e1v\u011b proto, \u017ee u\u017e jsme v p\u016flce de facto po\u0159adu, tak j\u00e1 v\u00e1m navrhuji, abyste ty konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed dotazy, konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed kazuistiky mi poslala a pr\u00e1v\u011b proto, \u017ee jsem koordin\u00e1torka, tak jsme mezirezortn\u00ed…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> To si pak m\u016f\u017eete poslat. Ale te\u010f, pros\u00edm, se v\u011bnujeme dne\u0161n\u00ed debat\u011b. Pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, kdy\u017e vy tady p\u0159ed chvili\u010dkou jste vyvracela tu v\u00fdhradu, \u017ee st\u00e1t do pomoci ukrajinsk\u00fdm uprchl\u00edk\u016fm dostate\u010dn\u011b neza\u010dle\u0148uje nevl\u00e1dn\u00ed ob\u010dansk\u00e9 organizace, tak co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te na tu kritiku t\u011bch organizac\u00ed, kter\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edmo pom\u00e1haj\u00ed uprchl\u00edk\u016fm, kterou jsem tady zmi\u0148oval v samotn\u00e9m \u00favodu, je pravda, na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed, st\u00e1t zvl\u00e1dnul ten po\u010d\u00e1tek, to znamen\u00e1, p\u0159ijet\u00ed takov\u00e9ho mno\u017estv\u00ed uprchl\u00edk\u016f, ale nedok\u00e1zal jim zajistit dlouhodobou podporu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> To je pr\u00e1v\u011b a\u017e moc v\u0161eobecn\u00e9. J\u00e1 bych byla r\u00e1da, kdyby to bylo konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed pr\u00e1v\u011b z toho d\u016fvodu, \u017ee cel\u00e1 \u0159ada neziskov\u00fdch organizac\u00ed je p\u0159\u00edmo sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed, to znamen\u00e1 \u010dlenov\u00e9 st\u00e1l\u00fdch komis\u00ed, v\u00fdkonn\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru, my m\u00e1me toti\u017e sd\u00edlenou koordinaci je\u0161t\u011b s \u00da\u0159adem vl\u00e1dy, pan\u00ed vl\u00e1dn\u00ed zmocn\u011bnkyn\u011b, a oni tam chod\u00ed…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> A p\u0159i t\u011bchto setk\u00e1n\u00edch nemaj\u00ed v\u00fdhrady.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Pr\u00e1v\u011b… jsou v\u00fdhrady ur\u010dit\u011b, proto\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd za sv\u00e9ho vlastn\u00edho rezortu, ka\u017ed\u00fd to ze sv\u00e9ho vlastn\u00edho \u00fahlu vid\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem, proto\u017ee je\u0161t\u011b jsme tady opomn\u011bli zm\u00ednit, \u017ee je tady cel\u00e1 s\u00ed\u0165 krajsk\u00fdch koordin\u00e1tor\u016f a jin\u00fdch dopl\u0148kov\u00fdch v\u011bc\u00ed a opat\u0159en\u00ed a ur\u010dit\u011b \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ a tak d\u00e1le, tak\u017ee opravdu nen\u00ed to jenom o t\u011bch neziskov\u00fdch organizac\u00edch nebo jenom o vl\u00e1d\u011b, je to o tom t\u00fdmu, o t\u00e9 spolupr\u00e1ci. A pr\u00e1v\u011b proto v\u017edycky, kdy\u017e mi n\u011bkdo \u0159ekne, n\u011bkomu n\u011bkdo \u0159ekl na \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce, \u017ee m\u00e1 YouTube \u0161kolu nebo podobn\u011b, tak j\u00e1 chci v\u011bd\u011bt, kde, za jak\u00fdch podm\u00ednek a pak to \u0159e\u0161\u00edm p\u0159\u00edmo, ale j\u00e1 nepot\u0159ebuju, abyste to \u0159\u00edkala tady, proto\u017ee tady sp\u00ed\u0161 se m\u00e1me bavit o syst\u00e9mov\u00fdch v\u011bcech. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Zat\u00edmco jste mluvila, pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e1 si tady za\u010dala studovat ty materi\u00e1ly, co jste p\u0159inesla. Pan\u00ed Uhlov\u00e1, nen\u00ed to tak, kdy\u017e nav\u00e1\u017eu na to, co tady te\u010f zazn\u011blo, \u017ee t\u0159eba n\u011bkter\u00e9 probl\u00e9my trochu vytrh\u00e1v\u00e1te z kontextu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> No, tak to je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b mo\u017en\u00fd, t\u011bmto interpretac\u00edm jsem otev\u0159en\u00e9, proto\u017ee jako v\u017edycky z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na \u00fahlu pohledu. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee ur\u010dit\u011b v\u00edc vid\u00edm problematick\u00fd body. Probl\u00e9m je, \u017ee my ty celkov\u00fd \u010d\u00edsla v\u011bt\u0161inou nem\u00e1me k t\u011bm v\u011bcem a n\u011bkter\u00fd se nedaj\u00ed ani skute\u010dn\u011b zjistit, n\u011bkter\u00fd ano, j\u00e1 t\u0159eba nev\u00edm, jestli v\u00edme te\u010fko, kolik p\u0159esn\u011b chod\u00ed d\u011bt\u00ed star\u0161\u00edch 15 let na st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kolu…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ur\u010dit\u011b to v\u00edme po\u0159\u00e1d, pr\u016fb\u011b\u017en\u011b. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Dok\u00e1\u017eete to, pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, jenom doplnit jednou v\u011btou, jestli to \u010d\u00edslo zn\u00e1te? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Vy jste \u0159\u00edkala st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161koly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> St\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161koly m\u011b zaj\u00edmaj\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> J\u00e1 si to z hlavy nepamatuju, ale jde o to, \u017ee m\u011b zaj\u00edm\u00e1, kdo my nevid\u00edme… <\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Jako st\u00e1t.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> St\u00e1t vid\u00ed ur\u010dit\u011b \u010d\u00edsla. Tak\u017ee st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161koly a konzervato\u0159e, celkem je tam 12 146 ukrajinsk\u00fdch \u017e\u00e1k\u016f ve st\u0159edn\u00edch \u0161kol\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Sp\u00ed\u0161 n\u00e1s bude zaj\u00edmat to procento, pod\u00edl n\u00e1s bude sp\u00ed\u0161 zaj\u00edmat, pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Tak te\u010f tady nebudu po\u010d\u00edtat pod\u00edl… Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> Tak j\u00e1 tady m\u00e1m posledn\u00ed \u010d\u00edsla a jako v\u017edycky komplikovan\u00fd je z\u00edsk\u00e1vat, tak je, \u017ee \u010dtvrtina d\u011bt\u00ed na z\u00e1kladn\u00edch \u0161kol\u00e1ch do \u0161koly nechod\u00ed, to znamen\u00e1 3\/4 ano, a bav\u00edme se o z\u00e1kladn\u00edch \u0161kol\u00e1ch, a zhruba opa\u010dn\u011b je to, co se t\u00fdk\u00e1 t\u011bch st\u0159edn\u00edch \u0161kol, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> To jsou jak\u00e1 \u010d\u00edsla, ze kter\u00fdch vych\u00e1z\u00edte? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> No, to jsou asi rok a p\u016fl star\u00fd \u010d\u00edsla…<\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Pr\u00e1v\u011b, \u017ee u\u017e je to star\u00e9. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Ta situace se zlep\u0161ila tedy podle va\u0161ich informac\u00ed, pan\u00ed E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1? <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Proto\u017ee ministerstvo \u0161kolstv\u00ed, ml\u00e1de\u017ee a t\u011blov\u00fdchovy m\u00e1 c\u00edlen\u00e9 programy pr\u00e1v\u011b na zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed \u00fasp\u011b\u0161nosti ve \u0161kol\u00e1ch, to souvis\u00ed nejenom s t\u011bma zmi\u0148ovan\u00fdma jazykov\u00fdma kurzama, ale ministerstvo \u0161kolstv\u00ed m\u00e1 tzv. antisegrega\u010dn\u00ed t\u00fdm, r\u016fzn\u00e9 poradensk\u00e9 t\u00fdmy a projekty, tak\u017ee vlivem tady t\u011bch r\u016fzn\u00fdch opat\u0159en\u00ed a dohromady i s edukativn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st\u00ed pro pedagogy se zvy\u0161uje, a te\u010f \u00fapln\u011b p\u0159esn\u011b takhle z hlavy nev\u00edm, zhruba na 65 %. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Luk\u00e1\u0161 Mato\u0161ka, moder\u00e1tor<\/strong> Pokud se nepletu, \u010dasto se poukazovalo na to, \u017ee je mal\u00fd pod\u00edl ukrajinsk\u00fdch \u017e\u00e1k\u016f na st\u0159edn\u00edch \u0161kol\u00e1ch. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Aneta E\u010dekov\u00e1 Mar\u0161\u00e1lov\u00e1, koordin\u00e1torka veden\u00ed kraj\u016f pro adaptaci a integraci Ukrajinc\u016f, Ministerstvo pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \u010cR \/STAN\/<\/strong> Ale to je pr\u00e1v\u011b to, \u017ee se to m\u011bn\u00ed v \u010dase. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Sa\u0161a Uhlov\u00e1, redaktorka, A2larm<\/strong> 65 %, uvid\u00edme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n <\/p>\n\n\n\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Kv\u016fli rusk\u00e9 invazi, kter\u00e1 za\u010dala p\u0159ed v\u00edce ne\u017e 3 lety, opustily Ukrajinu miliony lid\u00ed, statis\u00edce z nich na\u0161ly \u00fato\u010di\u0161t\u011b v \u010cesku. 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