M\u00e1te slovo<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u010cT 1<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Bude nov\u00e1 Superd\u00e1vka spravedliv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed? Dostanou v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed finan\u010dn\u00ed pomoc ob\u010dan\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou v nouzi? Nebo i ti, kte\u0159\u00ed pomoc z va\u0161ich dan\u00ed nepot\u0159ebuj\u00ed? Kdo na Superd\u00e1vku doplat\u00ed a kdo na n\u00ed vyd\u011bl\u00e1? O tom diskutovat budou. Na z\u00e1klad\u011b anal\u00fdzy jsme zjistili nedostatky, a proto upravujeme normativy na bydlen\u00ed a pos\u00edl\u00edme ochranu samo\u017eivitel\u016f, prohl\u00e1sil ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hroz\u00ed, \u017ee navzdory \u00famysl\u016fm ministerstva d\u00e1l pokvete obchod s chudobou, oponuje p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f. Dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Dobr\u00fd ve\u010der. A m\u00e1me pl\u00e1n, jak to vy\u0159e\u0161it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed d\u00e1vek je pouze kolem 1 %. V\u011bt\u0161\u00edm probl\u00e9mem je, \u017ee dv\u011b t\u0159etiny ob\u010dan\u016f s n\u00e1rokem na d\u00e1vky je ne\u010derpaj\u00ed, vysv\u011btluje profesor ekonomie z Centra ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed Univerzity Karlovy. Dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
D\u011bkuju a poj\u010fme to zm\u011bnit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Dnes je to tady n\u011bjak\u00e9 inovativn\u00ed. Tak. P\u0159\u00edjemci Superd\u00e1vky mohou m\u00edt \u00faspory a\u017e 400 000, v\u00edce aut, v\u00edce nemovitost\u00ed. Nesouhlas\u00edm, aby se da\u0148ov\u00ed poplatn\u00edci skl\u00e1dali na pohodln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u017eivot privilegovan\u00e9 soci\u00e1ln\u00ed skupin\u011b, zd\u016fraz\u0148uje vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed \u010clov\u011bka v t\u00edsni. Dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A za v\u00e1s ve\u0159ejnost. N\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed lid\u00e9 se v\u00e1m sm\u011bjou do o\u010d\u00ed. Zn\u00e1m jednu pan\u00ed, chodila si pro d\u00e1vky a m\u011bla t\u0159i auta. Roz\u010dilovala se, \u017ee dost\u00e1vala d\u00e1vky jen 25 000. Fand\u00edm ministru Juchelkovi, aby to napravil, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 ob\u010dan z Chebu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
P\u0159ijde mi nespravedliv\u00e9, \u017ee \u017eadatel\u00e9 mohou m\u00edt ka\u017ed\u00fd auto, pen\u00edze na \u00fa\u010dtech, vlastn\u00ed nemovitosti. Potom nen\u00ed dost pro n\u00e1s, co bydl\u00edme v n\u00e1jmu a nem\u016f\u017eeme sehnat pr\u00e1ci. To je n\u00e1zor ob\u010dana z Plzn\u011b. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pane Semer\u00e1de, tak pro\u010d v\u00e1m p\u0159ijde ten majetkov\u00fd test, kter\u00fd nov\u011b, mil\u00ed div\u00e1ci, u\u017e ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed jenom p\u0159\u00edjmy, ale i majetek, to je ta novinka, pro\u010d v\u00e1m p\u0159ijde nespravedliv\u00fd? Co se v\u00e1m tam nezd\u00e1?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:03:16<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, tak kdy\u017e m\u00e1 na \u00fa\u010dt\u011b n\u011bkdo docela dost pen\u011bz, tak by to m\u011blo b\u00fdt pro v\u0161echny n\u011bjak stejn\u00fdm metrem. Pak, \u017ee jo, n\u011bjak\u00fd nemovitosti n\u011bkdo m\u00e1, n\u011bkdo je zataj\u00ed. A vlastn\u011b auta taky se do toho po\u010d\u00edtaj\u00ed. To jsem se takhle o tom \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b dozv\u011bd\u011bl, proto\u017ee ta Superd\u00e1vka vlastn\u011b je v provozu p\u00e1r m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f a nikdo nev\u00ed, co zp\u016fsob\u00ed, n\u011bkomu p\u0159id\u00e1, n\u011bkomu ubere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:03:42<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, o tom budeme diskutovat. Ale v\u00e1m prost\u011b vad\u00ed, \u017ee jeden \u010dlen dom\u00e1cnosti m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt \u00faspory a\u017e 200 000 v jedno\u010dlenn\u00e9 dom\u00e1cnosti, dvou\u010dlenn\u00e1 250, pak to roste. Pak ka\u017ed\u00fd dosp\u011bl\u00fd m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt auto, mohou m\u00edt nemovitosti a jin\u00e9 v\u011bci. Dv\u011b, dv\u011b, tu druhou po do\u010dasnou dobu. Ale tady pan Semer\u00e1d, po\u010dkejte, ale to vy m\u00e1te nemovitost?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:11<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 m\u00e1m takhle, jako darovac\u00ed smlouvu, v\u011bcn\u00fd b\u0159emeno, tak\u017ee jako je\u0161t\u011b nic nem\u00e1m, ale m\u00e1m jenom smlouvu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:19<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale jinak bydl\u00edte v byt\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:21<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
N\u00e1jmu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:21<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, v n\u00e1jmu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:22<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee maminka je\u0161t\u011b \u017eije. A tak, tak to bude.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak bydl\u00edte v n\u00e1jmu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:27<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak bydl\u00edm v n\u00e1jmu. Ale jako.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:28<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A m\u00e1te auto?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Nem\u00e1te. P\u0159ijel jste z Plzn\u011b, \u017ee jo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, autobusem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:33<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Autobusem. Tak, pros\u00edm. Tak\u017ee panu Semer\u00e1dovi p\u0159ijde nespravedliv\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Nejenom mn\u011b, si mysl\u00edm, ale i v\u00edce ob\u010dan\u016fm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:41<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ano, to se k tomu dostaneme. Tak, pro\u010d je to takto nastaveno?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:04:45<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ten majetkov\u00fd test vlastn\u011b je u jedno\u010dlenn\u00e9 dom\u00e1cnosti 200 000 K\u010d na \u00fa\u010dtu. J\u00e1 s\u00e1m jsem to kritizoval v tom minul\u00e9m volebn\u00edm obdob\u00ed. My jsme nehlasovali pro Superd\u00e1vku. My jsme s t\u00edm nesouhlasili hlavn\u011b proto, \u017ee tam se m\u00edchaly ty chudinsk\u00e9 d\u00e1vky s tou prorodinnou jednou, to je p\u0159\u00eddavek na d\u00edt\u011b. A ten majetkov\u00fd test, tak o n\u011bm jsme se bavili, mysl\u00edm si, jako\u017ee dlouhou dobu i na v\u00fdboru pro soci\u00e1ln\u00ed politiku, proto\u017ee m\u00e1 n\u011bkolik nesrovnalost\u00ed. Nap\u0159\u00edklad, kdy\u017e m\u00e1te 200 000 na \u00fa\u010dtu, tak na Superd\u00e1vku nedos\u00e1hnete, nap\u0159\u00edklad jako starobn\u00ed d\u016fchodce. Ale, kdy\u017e si pob\u00edr\u00e1te na po\u0161t\u011b starobn\u00ed d\u016fchod na slo\u017eenku v hotovosti a m\u00e1te je v \u0161upl\u00edku, tak u\u017e m\u00e1te n\u00e1rok na p\u0159\u00edjem na Superd\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:05:23<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kdy\u017e m\u00e1m naspo\u0159eno takto v pol\u0161t\u00e1\u0159i t\u011bch 200 000 na d\u016fchod. Ano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:05:29<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak\u017ee vlastn\u011b nap\u0159\u00edklad, ano. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee jako je b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 samoz\u0159ejm\u011b si norm\u00e1ln\u011b \u0161et\u0159it na st\u00e1\u0159\u00ed. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee do majetkov\u00e9ho testu se nepo\u010d\u00edtaj\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad penzijn\u00ed p\u0159ipoji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed, stavebn\u00ed spo\u0159en\u00ed a dal\u0161\u00ed v\u011bci, kter\u00e9 vlastn\u011b slou\u017e\u00ed tomu, aby si \u010dlov\u011bk na\u0161et\u0159il. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b, j\u00e1 jsem te\u010f potkal na jednom setk\u00e1n\u00ed s ob\u010dany p\u00e1na, kter\u00fd \u0159\u00edk\u00e1: J\u00e1 se star\u00e1m jako samo\u017eivitel o dv\u011b dcery, ty jsou na vysok\u00e9 \u0161kole, j\u00e1 se o n\u011b star\u00e1m, chci, aby ony dostudovaly a vy jste mi vzali Superd\u00e1vku. A j\u00e1 bydl\u00edm v n\u00e1jmu a m\u00e1m mal\u00fd p\u0159\u00edjem a v\u017edycky jsem m\u011bl p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed. A j\u00e1 \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m: Jak to? No, proto\u017ee mi nevy\u0161el majetkov\u00fd test. J\u00e1 m\u00e1m na \u00fa\u010dtu 6 milion\u016f K\u010d, proto\u017ee jsme prodali rodinn\u00fd d\u016fm, a kdy\u017e jsme se rozv\u00e1d\u011bli, tak ta \u010d\u00e1st p\u0159i\u0161la jakoby na m\u011b. Ale j\u00e1 to nem\u00e1m pro sebe. J\u00e1 to m\u00e1m pro ty sv\u00e9 dv\u011b dcery, aby dostudovaly. J\u00e1 jsem \u0159\u00edkal: Promi\u0148te, ale j\u00e1 6 milion\u016f na \u00fa\u010dtu nem\u00e1m. A vlastn\u011b i tady tito lid\u00e9 byli p\u0159es p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed sanov\u00e1ni. Dokonce i jsme na\u0161li nemovitosti v Praze 1 na Pa\u0159\u00ed\u017esk\u00e9 ulici, kde lid\u00e9 pob\u00edrali p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:06:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. Tak po\u010dkejte. Tak nejd\u0159\u00edv poj\u010fme k tomu majetkov\u00e9mu testu. Tady pan H\u016fle. Pan H\u016fle vysloven\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee to je nastaveno nemravn\u011b vysoko. Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, my v\u0161em p\u0159ejeme, jo, Superd\u00e1vku. Ale pro\u010d tedy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee je to nemravn\u011b vysoko? Jo, t\u0159eba poj\u010fme k t\u011bm \u00faspor\u00e1m. Pane H\u016fle, pod\u00edvejte, mus\u00edme postupn\u011b. Te\u010f, v\u00e1\u017een\u00ed, budeme prob\u00edrat, proto\u017ee tam jsou \u00faspory, nemovitosti, auta. Poj\u010fme prvn\u00ed probrat ty \u00faspory. Pro\u010d v\u00e1m vad\u00ed \u00faspory 200 000 v jedno\u010dlenn\u00e9 dom\u00e1cnosti 250?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:07:08<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mus\u00edme si jenom uv\u011bdomit, \u017ee ta Superd\u00e1vka slu\u010duje dva typy d\u00e1vek. D\u00e1vky pomoci v hmotn\u00e9 nouzi a d\u00e1vky st\u00e1tn\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00ed podpory. V t\u00e9 pomoci, u t\u00e9 pomoci v hmotn\u00e9 nouzi ten majetkov\u00fd test byl daleko n\u00ed\u017e a u st\u00e1tn\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00ed podpory nebyl v\u016fbec. A vlastn\u011b jsme se doputovali do n\u011bjak\u00e9ho kompromisu. Ale ten celkov\u00fd samoz\u0159ejm\u011b v\u00fdsledek je pom\u011brn\u011b vysoko. Proto\u017ee, kdy\u017e si vezmeme, \u017ee 30 % dom\u00e1cnost\u00ed v \u010cesku m\u00e1 probl\u00e9m s jednor\u00e1zov\u00fdm v\u00fddajem v\u00edc ne\u017e 10 000 K\u010d, tak opravdu potom, pokud m\u00e1me cht\u00edt po t\u011bch lidech, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou t\u0159eba zam\u011bstnanci a plat\u00ed vlastn\u011b odvody st\u00e1tu, tak aby p\u0159isp\u00edvali n\u011bkomu, kdo je na tom vlastn\u011b daleko l\u00edp, vlastn\u011b aby m\u011bl p\u0159\u00edjemn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u017eivot, tak to nen\u00ed spravedliv\u00e9. To potom m\u016f\u017ee naru\u0161it tu soci\u00e1ln\u00ed solidaritu, kter\u00e1 v t\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti je. Prost\u011b ten majetkov\u00fd test jako takov\u00fd, pokud jde o ty \u00faspory na \u00fa\u010dtu, je p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 vysoko. Kdyby to bylo v\u00fdrazn\u011b m\u00ed\u0148, tak je to po\u0159\u00e1d \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:04<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak, pane Konr\u00e1de, vy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te co? Pane Korando?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ivan Koranda,ob\u010dan z Chebu<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jednu v\u011bc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, na ty pen\u00edze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:11<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ivan Koranda,ob\u010dan z Chebu<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Na ty pen\u00edze. To m\u011b opravdu fascinovalo, kdy\u017e nad\u00e1vala ta ob\u010danka v Chebu. Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, 25 000. J\u00e1 \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m: A kolik si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee ty d\u011bv\u010data, za kolik tady d\u011blaj\u00ed ka\u017ed\u00fd den na po\u0161t\u011b? Kolik maj\u00ed? A je\u0161t\u011b jednu v\u011bc. T\u0159eba pob\u00edraj\u00ed tady ur\u010dit\u00fd lidi vdovsk\u00fd a maj\u00ed je ze zem\u0159el\u00fdm d\u011bdou ty potomky a u\u017e nejsou a berou vdovsk\u00fd, vdovsk\u00fd p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvky. A to je docela. Jak tohle, jak tohle n\u011bkdo vy\u0159e\u0161\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale my te\u010f budeme prob\u00edrat ty. Tak\u017ee, t\u011bch 200 000.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:47<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee ten majetkov\u00fd test je jakoby vysoko, ten \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:08:50<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale mn\u011b jde, pane minist\u0159e, o to, \u017ee vy to te\u010f chcete m\u011bnit. Tak je to v po\u0159\u00e1dku 200 000 na osobu, 250 na dv\u011b, 300 na t\u0159i.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:09:00<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
My jsme v tuto chv\u00edli zjistili analytikou vlastn\u011b, bych \u0159ekl, exkluzivn\u00edch 270 000 smluv n\u00e1jemn\u00edch, \u017ee ta minul\u00e1 vl\u00e1da se opravdu jakoby sekla v t\u011bch v\u00fdpo\u010dtech u normativ\u016f a u zranitelnosti. Proto d\u011bl\u00e1me tady tuto n\u00e1pravu. J\u00e1 jsem dneska m\u011bl sch\u016fzku v Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovn\u011b se v\u0161emi poslaneck\u00fdmi a sen\u00e1tn\u00edmi kluby, kde jsem jim p\u0159edstavil pr\u00e1v\u011b ten pozm\u011b\u0148ovac\u00ed n\u00e1vrh, ke kter\u00e9mu se v\u0161ichni p\u0159ihl\u00e1sili. V\u0161ichni ho nap\u0159\u00ed\u010d politick\u00fdm spektrem podpo\u0159\u00edme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:09:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale m\u016f\u017eete n\u011bco k t\u011bm \u00faspor\u00e1m, kter\u00e9 te\u010f prob\u00edr\u00e1me?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:09:27<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A pokud se t\u00fdk\u00e1 \u00faspor, tak mo\u017en\u00e1, \u017ee do druh\u00e9ho \u010dten\u00ed p\u0159ijde n\u011bjak\u00fd pozm\u011b\u0148ovac\u00ed n\u00e1vrh na sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed t\u011bch \u00faspor, klidn\u011b t\u0159eba na 100 000 na jednu polovinu u jedno\u010dlenn\u00e9 dom\u00e1cnosti. J\u00e1 se samoz\u0159ejm\u011b tomu nebr\u00e1n\u00edm. A\u0165 ty \u00faspory, pokud jsou samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed, tak a\u0165 ti lid\u00e9 t\u0159eba na tu Superd\u00e1vku nedos\u00e1hnou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:09:44<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale jestli to pak zase neodnesou t\u0159eba senio\u0159i, co si u\u0161et\u0159ili na poh\u0159eb, jo, a vnou\u010dat\u016fm a podobn\u011b, a potom nedostanou ten, tu Superd\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:09:58<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pokud m\u00e1 n\u011bkdo \u00faspory nap\u0159\u00edklad 200 000 K\u010d, tak j\u00e1 se domn\u00edv\u00e1m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:02<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. No, 220.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Nebo 220.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:05<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pro vnou\u010data, jo. Na poh\u0159eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:07<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd by m\u011bl b\u00fdt zodpov\u011bdn\u00fd s\u00e1m za sv\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edjmy, a \u017ee dal\u0161\u00ed da\u0148ov\u00ed poplatn\u00edci by se nem\u011bli n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem pod\u00edlet na vnou\u010datech t\u011bch lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed tu Superd\u00e1vku pob\u00edraj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. Tak, k \u00faspor\u00e1m, nebo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:19<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ano, ale je\u0161t\u011b mus\u00edm reagovat na n\u011bco, co pan ministr \u0159ekl a co nen\u00ed tak docela pravda. On toti\u017e \u0159ekl, \u017ee se v\u0161ichni p\u0159ipoj\u00ed a tam v tom n\u00e1vrhu t\u011bch zm\u011bn, vy p\u0159ece nem\u00e1te \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 zm\u011bny k tomu majetku. Tak\u017ee te\u010fka, kdy\u017e tady.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, k majetku nem\u00e1me. M\u00e1me jenom normativy a zranitelnost.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A co se t\u00fd\u010de zranitelnosti, tak to je super. My jsme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, prob\u00edr\u00e1me ty majetky. To v\u00e1m teda pan ministr ne\u0159ekl.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:42<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jenom s dovolen\u00edm, pot\u0159ebuju poopravit, proto\u017ee prost\u011b t\u00edm, \u017ee se k tomu dostaneme, ale \u017ee v tom pozm\u011b\u0148ovac\u00edm n\u00e1vrhu je n\u011bco, co ned\u00e1v\u00e1 \u00fapln\u011b pln\u00fd smysl n\u00e1m ohledn\u011b t\u00e9 podpory v bydlen\u00ed, ohledn\u011b t\u011bch normativ\u016f, tak k tomu se dostaneme a nemysl\u00edm si, \u017ee to podpo\u0159\u00ed \u00fapln\u011b v\u0161ichni.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:58<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, tak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:58<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:10:59<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 bych te\u010f, pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, dal\u0161\u00ed u toho majetkov\u00e9ho. Tak t\u0159eba pan profesor J\u00e1nsk\u00fd, v\u00e1m se nezdaj\u00ed ty dv\u011b nemovitosti a dokonce, jo, proto\u017ee ten ob\u010dan, co \u017e\u00e1d\u00e1 o soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vku, alias te\u010f nov\u011b Superd\u00e1vku, m\u016f\u017ee vlastnit dv\u011b nemovitosti, tu druhou po ur\u010ditou dobu. A vy, pane profesore, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee taky ten \u010dlov\u011bk m\u016f\u017ee bydlet v hradu?No, v hradu, ch\u00e1pete?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:11:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kdy\u017e je zkolaudovan\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:11:33<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kdy\u017e je zkolaudovan\u00fd a p\u016fjde si pro d\u00e1vku. M\u00e1 jednu nemovitost a k tomu z\u00e1mek. To je ta druh\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:11:42<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 m\u00e1m velkou radost, \u017ee se tady setk\u00e1v\u00e1me v takov\u00e9m p\u0159\u00e1telsk\u00e9m a kolaborativn\u00edm duchu, a \u017ee vypad\u00e1, \u017ee aspo\u0148 co jsme tady za experty a za politiky, tak se shodneme na tom, \u017ee chceme m\u00edt soci\u00e1ln\u00ed syst\u00e9m, kter\u00fd pom\u00e1h\u00e1 t\u011bm nejzraniteln\u011bj\u0161\u00edm, t\u011bm s nejni\u017e\u0161\u00edmi p\u0159\u00edjmy. A sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed t\u00e9 diskuze, abych v\u00e1m neuh\u00fdbal, tak je tady ten majetkov\u00fd test, kter\u00fd jsme d\u0159\u00edve v takov\u00e9to m\u00ed\u0159e nem\u011bli pro v\u0161echny ty d\u00e1vky, pro tu Superd\u00e1vku. A mn\u011b jenom, jako nech\u00e1m r\u00e1d na politik\u016fm, s bude to snad anal\u00fdzami podlo\u017een\u00e9, kde ten majetkov\u00fd test m\u00e1 b\u00fdt. Ale te\u010fka je tam jasn\u00e1, jako jasn\u00fd rozd\u00edl mezi t\u00edm, jak se chov\u00e1me k r\u016fzn\u00fdm typ\u016fm majetku, jo. A ten mn\u011b nep\u0159ipad\u00e1 p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 smyslupln\u00fd. Tak\u017ee to je takov\u00e1 technick\u00e1 pozn\u00e1mka. M\u00e1me tady tu hotovost v pol\u0161t\u00e1\u0159i, m\u00e1me tady tu hotovost, kterou si n\u011bkdo nesl do banky a m\u00e1 ji ulo\u017eenou v bance. A m\u00e1me tady tu chatu, kter\u00e1 m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt i hradem. A ten hrad m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt mnohem, mnohem cenn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e ta 200 000 hranice. Tak\u017ee za m\u011b tohleto je jenom jako nekonzistence. Poj\u010fme to vy\u0159e\u0161it, jestli je te\u010f tady prostor. D\u011blaj\u00ed se zm\u011bny k lep\u0161\u00edmu v n\u011bkter\u00fdch oblastech t\u00e9 Superd\u00e1vce, to v\u00edt\u00e1me. Ale tohle je dal\u0161\u00ed oblast, kde o\u010dividn\u011b i tady pan ministr \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee je s t\u00edm nespokojen\u00fd, jestli v\u00e1s sly\u0161\u00edm dob\u0159e. S t\u00edm majetkov\u00fdm testem. A vy jste te\u010f ministr, tak\u017ee by bylo skv\u011bl\u00e9, kdybychom se n\u00e1m to poda\u0159ilo zlep\u0161it i v t\u00e9to konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed oblasti, na kterou pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1 upozor\u0148uje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, proto\u017ee jsou t\u0159eba ob\u010dan\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, podporovali sv\u00e9 d\u011bti a nekoupili si chalupu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:16<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To je pravda.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:18<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:18<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Nap\u0159\u00edklad j\u00e1 taky podporuji sv\u00e9 d\u011bti a nem\u00e1m Superd\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:22<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, jo, tak jde o tu chalupu. A je\u0161t\u011b t\u00edmto, pane H\u016fle, v\u00e1m se zase nel\u00edb\u00ed ty auta. Pan H\u016fle \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee ta rodina dokonce m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt dva Mercedesy a dostane Superd\u00e1vku. Dva. Jak je to mo\u017en\u00e9, pane H\u016fle?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:38<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, proto\u017ee se tam vlastn\u011b mluv\u00ed o autech jako takov\u00fdch a ne o cen\u011b toho auta. Druh\u00e1 v\u011bc, j\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee k tomu se vyj\u00e1d\u0159\u00ed Olga Richterov\u00e1, \u017ee ti chud\u00ed lid\u00e9 maj\u00ed paradoxn\u011b na sebe napsan\u00fdch v\u00edce aut, ale jde vlastn\u011b jako o tu cenu v\u00edc ne\u017e o ten po\u010det t\u011bch aut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:13:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A j\u00e1 k tomu chci doplnit. To je jedna z v\u011bc\u00ed, co jsme p\u0159ipom\u00ednkovali pr\u00e1v\u011b velice aktivn\u011b, kdy\u017e se p\u0159ipravovala ta Superd\u00e1vka v minul\u00e9m obdob\u00ed. My jsme za Pir\u00e1ty v \u00fazk\u00e9m kontaktu s lidma, co t\u0159eba \u017eij\u00ed se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm. A bohu\u017eel v minulosti se vypl\u00e1celo jejich p\u0159\u00edbuzn\u00fdm a jejich zn\u00e1m\u00fdm na n\u011b napsat auto. Tak\u017ee u n\u00e1s \u017eij\u00ed minim\u00e1ln\u011b tis\u00edce, ale sp\u00ed\u0161 desetitis\u00edce lid\u00ed se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm, na kter\u00e9 jsou napsan\u00e1 star\u00e1 auta, \u0161unky. Jo, n\u011bco, co nem\u00e1 vlastn\u011b \u010dasto \u017e\u00e1dnou hodnotu. Leckdy se u\u017e ani nev\u00ed, kde to auto je. Ale oni se te\u010fka mus\u00ed vlastnictv\u00ed toho auta zbavit, aby m\u011bli dar. A to je ale velice t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 zbavit se auta, kter\u00e9 neexistuje. Je velice t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 zbavit se n\u011b\u010deho, co se.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:14:33<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli n\u011bkdo takov\u00fd jakoby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:14:35<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pr\u00e1v\u011b, \u017ee ano. Pr\u00e1v\u011b, \u017ee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:14:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To sly\u0161\u00edm jakoby poprv\u00e9 a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee nikdo by nem\u011bl jako vlastnit n\u011bjak\u00e9 auto, kter\u00e9 jakoby neexistuje a m\u00edt ho na sebe napsan\u00e9 jenom proto, \u017ee pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b n\u011bkdo cht\u011bl n\u011bkde n\u011bco zoptimalizovat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:14:47<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Bylo to p\u0159ed des\u00edtkami let, co za\u010dal tenhle probl\u00e9m, kdy\u017e byla takzvan\u00e1 ekologick\u00e1 \u00faleva nebo ekologick\u00e1 da\u0148 a byla \u00faleva pro ty lidi se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm, \u017ee oni ji nemuseli platit. A j\u00e1 jenom chci \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee to vzniklo historicky. Na t\u011bch lidech to je napsan\u00e9 a jsou jedinci, na kter\u00fdch je napsan\u00fdch x aut, kter\u00e9 nikdo nev\u00ed, kde jsou. A prost\u011b bohu\u017eel jsou to fakt lidi se zdravotn\u00edm posti\u017een\u00edm z\u00e1visl\u00ed na t\u00e9 pomoci st\u00e1tu a takov\u00e9hle v\u011bci se budou vyjevovat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:10<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ je n\u011bkdo zneu\u017eil a napsal na n\u011b auta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:12<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A co j\u00e1 bych r\u00e1da, abychom tam vlo\u017eili prost\u011b \u010dasovou prodlevu, aby m\u011bli \u010das to vy\u0159e\u0161it. Ta pot\u00ed\u017e je, tihle lid\u00e9 to nemaj\u00ed \u0161anci zvl\u00e1dnout za ty t\u0159i m\u011bs\u00edce, proto\u017ee tam bude muset doj\u00edt k tomu, aby zaprv\u00e9 za\u010dalo to \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed s registrem a potom to bude muset rozhodnout soud. A v tuto chv\u00edli \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A to v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee pan ministr tuto ot\u00e1zku ur\u010dit\u011b u zdravotn\u011b handicapovan\u00fdch to, to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ posoudit, jo. J\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli jich je desetitis\u00edce, ale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, bude tam to. V\u00edm, \u017ee, jo, pan ministr, zdravotn\u011b handicapovan\u00e9 ur\u010dit\u011b. To si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee se m\u016f\u017eeme. Ty nenech\u00e1 ve \u0161tychu, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1. Ale pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, ten po\u010det, jo, ta hodnota toho auta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:53<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ta hodnota toho auta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:15:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee, ch\u00e1pete, pak jsou zase lid\u00e9, t\u0159eba, jak \u0159ekl pan H\u016fle, lid\u00e9 v nouzi, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed jedno auto star\u00e9, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, 30 let, druh\u00e9 do lesa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:16:05<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 \u0159eknu \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:16:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A jsou na stejn\u00e9 \u00farovni jako ti s Mercedesy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:16:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u0158eknu to takto. My samoz\u0159ejm\u011b m\u00e1me celou \u0159adu lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed leg\u00e1ln\u011b zneu\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed d\u00e1vkov\u00fd soci\u00e1ln\u00ed syst\u00e9m. Nen\u00ed to jenom ot\u00e1zka t\u0159eba toho majetkov\u00e9ho testu nov\u011b. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee nen\u00ed v sil\u00e1ch \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce, mo\u017en\u00e1, \u017ee to tady n\u011bkdo potvrd\u00ed z toho provozu, \u017ee by je\u0161t\u011b \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci na \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce m\u011bli kontrolovat hodnotu auta. Nedok\u00e1\u017eu si p\u0159edstavit, kdo by to najednou ohodnocoval, jestli by b\u011bhali na parkovi\u0161t\u011b nebo jestli by museli m\u00edt zase n\u011bjak\u00e9 kulat\u00e9 raz\u00edtko od n\u011bjak\u00e9ho soudn\u00edho znalce nebo t\u0159eba od n\u011bjak\u00e9ho automechanika. J\u00e1 \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:16:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, pan H\u016fle. Pan H\u016fle chce reagovat. Pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:16:43<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To m\u00e1 \u00fapln\u011b jednoduch\u00fd \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed. Podle techni\u010d\u00e1ku vlastn\u011b poji\u0161\u0165ovny pracuj\u00ed s cenov\u00fdmi tabulkami aut. To pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad p\u0159i likvidaci a tak d\u00e1le. A tam je mo\u017en\u00fd stanovit jakoby, \u017ee hodnota toho auta je do n\u011bjak\u00fd v\u00fd\u0161e a podle tabulek, kter\u00fd by poskytly poji\u0161\u0165ovny, prost\u011b je mo\u017en\u00e9 to takhle posoudit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:00<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ v sil\u00e1ch jakoby \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce, aby kontroloval ka\u017ed\u00e9ho, proto\u017ee m\u00e1me 400 000 dom\u00e1cnost\u00ed a u milionu lid\u00ed m\u00e1me, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou u n\u00e1s na n\u011bjak\u00fdch d\u00e1vk\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ m\u00e1me statis\u00edce aut, kter\u00e9 potom budou muset \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci kontrolovat podle n\u011bjak\u00fdch tabulek poji\u0161\u0165oven, kter\u00e9 se budou neust\u00e1le aktualizovat. A mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee sp\u00ed\u0161e bychom m\u011bli opravdu bojovat proti t\u011bm leg\u00e1ln\u00edm zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010d\u016fm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:21<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale po\u010dkejte, pan H\u016fle \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee se kontroluje kdeco.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:23<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ten hlavn\u00ed probl\u00e9m je, \u017ee tady jakoby, my se bav\u00edme vlastn\u011b o velk\u00fdm mno\u017estv\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010d\u016f d\u00e1vek. Ale to nejsou zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010di d\u00e1vek. To jsou lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed vlastn\u011b funguj\u00ed podle \u0161patn\u011b nastaven\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu. A te\u010f tohle je nap\u0159\u00edklad \u0161patn\u00fd parametr toho syst\u00e9mu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:37<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne. To, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee m\u00e1 n\u011bkdo auto za 1 milion korun a jede si pro Superd\u00e1vku, tak je to leg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010d soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:43<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To nen\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010d. To nen\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010d soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky, proto\u017ee tam cena toho auta nen\u00ed nijak limitovan\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:47<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto v\u00e1m to vad\u00ed. Proto v\u00e1m to vad\u00ed. Proto v\u00e1m vad\u00ed, \u017ee kdy\u017e m\u00e1 n\u011bkdo jakoby drah\u00e9 auto, \u017ee bere Superd\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To nen\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010d d\u00e1vek.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Je.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:17:55<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
V t\u00e9 Superd\u00e1vce nikde nen\u00ed deklarace, \u017ee to auto nem\u00e1 m\u00edt hodnotu vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:18:00<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee to je leg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky. Je to vy\u010d\u016franost toho \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd m\u00e1 auto za milion a jde si pro Superd\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:18:05<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u0160patn\u011b nastaven\u00fd syst\u00e9m, kter\u00fd stanovuje n\u011bjak\u00fd n\u00e1rok a ten \u010dlov\u011bk ten n\u00e1rok vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1. A ozna\u010dovat \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 leg\u00e1ln\u00ed n\u00e1rok za zneu\u017e\u00edva\u010de, je fale\u0161n\u00e9 a \u0161patn\u00e9. Je lep\u0161\u00ed zm\u011bnit ten syst\u00e9m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:18:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tady chce reagovat ob\u010dan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:18:20<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Stejn\u00fd zp\u016fsob byl i na hmotn\u00fd nouzi. Na hmotn\u00fd nouzi se tohle to nezji\u0161\u0165ovalo. A te\u010fka u Superd\u00e1vky, proto\u017ee j\u00e1 na platform\u00e1ch soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00ed pom\u00e1h\u00e1m ob\u010dan\u016fm, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m jim tam, jak maj\u00ed pracovat se Superd\u00e1vkou, proto\u017ee to je pro n\u011b obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9. A co si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee tam d\u011blaj\u00ed s t\u011bma Mercedesama, kter\u00fdmi vy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te dva? \u00dapln\u011b jednodu\u0161e to zneu\u017eijou. P\u0159ep\u00ed\u0161ou si to na I\u010cO. Proto\u017ee v z\u00e1kon\u011b je jasn\u011b psan\u00fd, \u017ee na ka\u017edou dosp\u011blou osobu m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jedno auto, a\u0165 je jak\u00fdkoliv. A jakmile te\u010fka zji\u0161\u0165ujou a ob\u010dan\u00e9 to vid\u00ed a my v t\u011bch diskuz\u00edch to vid\u00edme a rad\u00edme jim a \u0159\u00edk\u00e1me jim, jak maj\u00ed d\u011blat Superd\u00e1vku, aby n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem si ji mohli po\u017e\u00e1dat. A rovnou v\u00e1m tam \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed, no, tak to p\u0159ep\u00ed\u0161eme na I\u010cO a hotovo. Ale ty ostatn\u00ed lidi, kter\u00fd tady pojmenov\u00e1v\u00e1me, kter\u00fd maj\u00ed t\u0159eba to auto za 20 000, tak ty ho na I\u010cO nep\u0159ep\u00ed\u0161ou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, j\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, pane minist\u0159e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:08<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak\u017ee to je ta chyba v syst\u00e9mu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:10<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, ten \u010dlov\u011bk nemus\u00ed to auto v\u016fbec na nikoho p\u0159episovat, jo, to je ten probl\u00e9m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Promi\u0148te, tady m\u00e1te ale na druhou stranu pan\u00ed Richterovou, kter\u00e1 \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee des\u00edtky tis\u00edc zdravotn\u011b posti\u017een\u00fdch maj\u00ed des\u00edtky aut a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:20<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To nen\u00ed o sporu. Chud\u00ed lid\u00e9 \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ p\u0159epsala auta kv\u016fli ekologick\u00e9 dani. A to je tak\u00e9 samoz\u0159ejm\u011b leg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Co je leg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee n\u011bkdo kv\u016fli ekologick\u00e9 dani, aby ji neplatil, tak schv\u00e1ln\u011b p\u0159epsal auto jako zdrav\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk na toho zdravotn\u011b posti\u017een\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:19:38<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, pardon. Vy jste \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee jste o tom probl\u00e9mu nesly\u0161el. Ten probl\u00e9m fungoval tak, \u017ee ta ekologick\u00e1 da\u0148, kter\u00e1 byla 5 000, tak ZTP od toho byli osvobozeni. P\u0159\u00edbuzn\u00ed tohoto \u010dlov\u011bka na n\u011bj napsali, nemuseli \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/. Ani nemuseli m\u00edt not\u00e1\u0159sky ov\u011b\u0159enou plnou moc. A napsali na \u010dlov\u011bka. Ale, kdy\u017e ten ZTP \u010dlov\u011bk bude \u017e\u00e1dat o d\u00e1vku, tak on ten syst\u00e9m nijak nepodvedl. Nic nezneu\u017eil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:01<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale ti lid\u00e9, ale ti lid\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:02<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ti lid\u00e9 okolo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:02<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Bohu\u017eel ho zneu\u017eili.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:04<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No ano, ale \u017eadatelem bude ZTP \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:08<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Bude reagovat pan Koranda.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak\u017ee on to mus\u00ed vy\u0159e\u0161it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:10<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan Koranda chce reagovat. Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, po\u010dkejte, ob\u010dan pan Koranda.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:15<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ivan Koranda,ob\u010dan z Chebu<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Bylo to v Karlov\u00fdch Varech, kdy jsme m\u011bli velice mizern\u00fd p\u0159\u00edjem, a tak jsem po\u017e\u00e1dal o d\u00e1vku. Bylo mi \u0159e\u010deno, nem\u00e1te n\u00e1rok. Pro\u010d? M\u00e1te satelit. \u0158\u00edk\u00e1m, na 10 byt\u016f m\u00e1me v bar\u00e1ku satelit. A prodejte auto. J\u00e1 jsem m\u011bl Warburga, m\u011bl cenu 1 500 korun. No, to bychom si pomohli, teda. A zapla\u0165 p\u00e1nb\u016fh, \u017ee jsme ho m\u011bli. To jsme se dostali do nemocnice, kamkoliv. Dneska star\u00fd auto, ale aby \u010dlov\u011bk byl mobiln\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:42<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, ale my tady v\u0161ichni jsou pro, pro to. Ano, to je v po\u0159\u00e1dku. Tak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:48<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
U \u010dlena dom\u00e1cnosti m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jeden automobil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:50<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, pan Hol\u00fd, pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:20:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, j\u00e1, kdy\u017e tady poslouch\u00e1m pana ministra Juchelku, tak si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee asi je dobr\u00fd ministr, ale m\u00e1te okolo sebe \u0161patn\u00fd poradce. Kdybyste vy s\u00e1m osobn\u011b vy\u0161el mezi lidi, vy\u0161el jako, dejme tomu, nav\u0161t\u00edvil jste prost\u011b ty rodiny, kter\u00fd ne\u017eij\u00ed na hranici chudoby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:15<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Te\u010f jsem byl v p\u00e1tek ve \u0160umperku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pardon, pane minist\u0159e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ rodinu jsem nav\u0161t\u00edvil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:18<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, ale ty lidi tam \u017eij\u00ed pod hranic\u00ed chudoby. A j\u00e1 jsem si schv\u00e1ln\u011b dneska, ne\u017e jsem \u0161el do studia, d\u011blal ten n\u00e1rokov\u00fd test. Za\u0161krtal jsem tam prost\u011b v\u0161echno, \u017ee ne. Nepracuju, nem\u00e1m \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd majetek, p\u0159\u00edjmy nula. Jo, tady m\u00e1m syna, chod\u00ed do \u0161koly, nem\u00e1 p\u0159\u00edjmy. V\u00edte, co mn\u011b vy\u0161lo za \u010d\u00e1stku? Nula. Tak mi vysv\u011btlete, jak je to mo\u017en\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:43<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 to nev\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:44<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale j\u00e1 v\u00e1m to, ale pane Hol\u00fd, j\u00e1 v\u00e1m to \u0159eknu. Proto\u017ee vy tam m\u00e1te, proto\u017ee vy pracujete, i v\u00e1\u0161 syn pracuje, jo, to jste jenom zku\u0161ebn\u011b. Nebo studuje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:55<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1, syn te\u010fka dod\u011blal maturitu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:21:57<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, v\u00fdborn\u011b, v\u00fdborn\u011b. Ale mn\u011b jde, j\u00e1 v\u00e1m \u0159eknu, pro\u010d v\u00e1m taky vy\u0161la nula.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:02<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, to by m\u011b zaj\u00edmalo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:02<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee vy m\u00e1te pracovat. \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ Tam je takzvan\u00fd pracovn\u00ed bonus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
V\u00edte dob\u0159e, \u017ee tady jsem v\u00edcekr\u00e1t, a \u017ee pracuju. J\u00e1 jsem si to d\u00e1val jenom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:12<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale vy. Po\u010dkejte, pane Hol\u00fd, j\u00e1 v\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:15<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ml\u010d\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:16<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, j\u00e1 v\u00edm, \u017ee pan Hol\u00fd pracuje. D\u011blal si zku\u0161ebn\u011b testy. J\u00e1 \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, pro\u010d tam v tom zku\u0161ebn\u00edm testu vy\u0161la nula. Proto\u017ee je takzvan\u00fd pracovn\u00ed bonus. Pracovn\u00ed bonus. A to jsme u dal\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zky. Jak, jo, proto\u017ee pokud nepracujete, byste nepracoval, vy d\u0159ete. J\u00e1 to v\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Hol\u00fd,ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 v\u00edm, pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:22:41<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jo, pokud n\u011bkdo nepracuje, tak bude m\u00edt ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed tu Superd\u00e1vku. Ale m\u011b zaj\u00edm\u00e1, a jak zohledn\u00edte ob\u010dany 55 plus, ob\u010dany v p\u0159edd\u016fchodov\u00e9m v\u011bku, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u0159ijdou o pr\u00e1ci a nem\u016f\u017eou a nikdo je nechce, proto\u017ee jsme sta\u0159\u00ed. My, my v na\u0161\u00ed v\u011bkov\u00e9 kategorii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:23:07<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tam spad\u00e1m i j\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:23:09<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, tak \u0159ekn\u011bte, pane Semer\u00e1de, co vy?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:23:11<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jsem osoba zdravotn\u011b znev\u00fdhodn\u011bn\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:23:13<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:23:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Trvale bez invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu. A kdy\u017e sh\u00e1n\u00edm pr\u00e1ci, tak mi do telefonu rovnou \u0159eknou: Pane Semer\u00e1d, ale vy nejste pro firmu v\u00fdhodn\u00fd, abyste bral, aby \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ firma brala 1 000 korun. To v\u00e1m to \u0159eknou do telefonu. A j\u00e1 kouk\u00e1m na inzer\u00e1ty, na e-maily od r\u00e1na, dopoledne, ve\u010der. Projdu 50 inzer\u00e1t\u016f. Byl jsem za\u0159azen v projektu pro OZP. Ta poradkyn\u011b mi nab\u00edzela star\u00fd inzer\u00e1ty, tak jsem to zru\u0161il. T\u0159i \u010dtvrt\u011b roku jsem ztratil, u\u017e jsem doma p\u0159es rok. A prost\u011b pr\u00e1ci sehnat v Plzni nem\u016f\u017eu. Jsem b\u00fdval\u00fd kucha\u0159-\u010d\u00ed\u0161n\u00edk, vyu\u010den\u00fd keramik, u arm\u00e1dy jsem slou\u017eil. Ale bohu\u017eel, zdrav\u00ed u\u017e mi tolik jako nedovoluje st\u00e1t. D\u011blal jsem security v obchodech, taky jsem d\u011blal na vr\u00e1tnici ve \u0160kodovce. Tam ka\u017edou vr\u00e1tnici m\u00e1 jin\u00e1 firma. A rovnou v\u00e1m \u0159eknou: Na DPP, bude\u0161 jet na dohodu. A kdy\u017e chci d\u011blat na d\u016fchod, tak v\u00e1m nikdo, se s v\u00e1ma nebav\u00ed. Anebo na \u010derno. Nebo, jo, ta \u010dern\u00e1 ekonomika podle m\u011b byla, je a bude.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:16<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A m\u016f\u017eu se v\u00e1s jako za \u00da\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce zeptat, pro\u010d nem\u00e1te v\u00fdplatu invalidn\u00edho d\u016fchodu? Pro\u010d, kdy\u017e tady vykl\u00e1d\u00e1te, jak jste pracoval?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:23<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 nem\u00e1m invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:24<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale pan Semer\u00e1d je osoba zdravotn\u011b znev\u00fdhodn\u011bn\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mn\u011b je to vlastn\u011b v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b na nic. A to n\u00e1m jako d\u011bl\u00e1 probl\u00e9my. Proto\u017ee chci vyd\u011bl\u00e1vat minim\u00e1ln\u011b 20 000.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:37<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee vy \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
20 000, co v dne\u0161n\u00ed dob\u011b je. To je to sam\u00e9, jako kdy\u017e jsem si vy\u0159izoval Superd\u00e1vku. V\u0161echno \u010dty\u0159ikr\u00e1t jsme museli dokl\u00e1dat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:46<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To se dostaneme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:48<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jasn\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:48<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak, kdo n\u00e1m odpov\u00ed, jo, co ob\u010dan\u00e9 55 plus, co jsou, jsme diskriminov\u00e1ni na trhu pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:24:59<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A je\u0161t\u011b jeden dodatek.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:25:00<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, po\u010dkejte. No, a\u0165 n\u00e1m pan ministr \u0159ekne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:25:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jasn\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:25:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jak to zohledn\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:25:04<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To je velk\u00fd probl\u00e9m, hlavn\u011b u \u017een. Tam roste opravdu jako statisticky t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed, kdy\u017e jsou propu\u0161t\u011bni z n\u011bjak\u00e9ho d\u016fvodu, tak samoz\u0159ejm\u011b skon\u010d\u00ed na \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce. A hlavn\u011b u \u017een 55 plus, tam vid\u00edme velk\u00fd n\u00e1r\u016fst. Co pro to budeme d\u011blat? J\u00e1 jsem v tu chv\u00edli jakoby \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee budeme muset opravdu na n\u011b nasm\u011brovat rekvalifikace. To znamen\u00e1 vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed. Pokud ten \u010dlov\u011bk v rekvalifikaci je, tak u\u017e dos\u00e1hne na pracovn\u00ed bonus. U\u017e se mu ta d\u00e1vka t\u00edm pracovn\u00edm bonusem vyt\u00e1hne. \u00dapln\u011b stejn\u011b jako m\u016f\u017ee pracovat 30 hodin m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u011b a tak\u00e9 u\u017e je to v r\u00e1mci pracovn\u00edho bonusu nap\u0159\u00edklad u ve\u0159ejn\u011b prosp\u011b\u0161n\u00fdch prac\u00ed pro obec. A u\u017e mu ten pracovn\u00ed bonus se vyt\u00e1hne. Tak\u017ee v\u0161echny tady tyto v\u011bci na n\u011b ta Superd\u00e1vka myslela. Ale Superd\u00e1vka m\u00e1 za c\u00edl nejen podporovat samoz\u0159ejm\u011b spravedliv\u011b ty soci\u00e1ln\u011b znev\u00fdhodn\u011bn\u00e9 nebo kte\u0159\u00ed se dostanou do n\u011bjak\u00fdch probl\u00e9m\u016f, ale takt\u00e9\u017e nastartovat ur\u010ditou jakoby pracovn\u00ed aktivitu a vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed i v r\u00e1mci rekvalifikac\u00ed a motivovat k tomu, aby ti lid\u00e9 pracovali.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:02<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A pak tady m\u00e1me pan\u00ed Tichou, ta pracuje na \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce. A \u0159ekn\u011bte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
My m\u00e1me spoustu klient\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed si ud\u011blaj\u00ed jednu rekvalifikaci, ud\u011blaj\u00ed si druhou rekvalifikaci a tot\u00e1ln\u011b nese\u017eenou pr\u00e1ci. Proto\u017ee my tam m\u00e1me sice 3 000 nab\u00eddek, z toho 50 % je pro ty OZP, pro ty invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchodce, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed ty invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchody, proto\u017ee ty firmy na n\u011b cht\u011bj\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b rej\u017eovat dotace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:23<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale OZP a OZS je tro\u0161ku rozd\u00edl.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Proto\u017ee OZS, j\u00e1 nem\u00e1m invalidn\u00ed d\u016fchod.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:28<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1, kdy\u017e jsem nastoupil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A nav\u00edc to jsou firmy, kam bych opravdu toho invalidu neposlala. To jsou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:33<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A pro\u010d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jsou to pofid\u00e9rn\u00ed firmy, okr\u00e1daj\u00ed bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed agentury, okr\u00e1daj\u00ed tam lidi, nechovaj\u00ed se k nim slu\u0161n\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A jak se k nim chovaj\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:41<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, \u0161patn\u011b se k nim chovaj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:43<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale, co t\u0159eba d\u011blaj\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:43<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ d\u011blat 24 hodin. P\u00ed\u0161ou jim p\u016flku na \u010derno, p\u016flku jim d\u00e1vaj\u00ed jenom z\u00e1klad, aby m\u011bli pracovn\u00ed smlouvu jenom na ur\u010ditou smlouvu, na zkr\u00e1cen\u00fd \u00favazek. Zbytek jim d\u00e1vaj\u00ed bokem. Tak\u017ee ty lidi tam d\u011blaj\u00ed 300 hodin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:26:55<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale tyhle firmy security, to u\u017e je minim\u00e1ln\u011b 20 let. V\u0161ichni o tom v\u00ed a nikdo to ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:00<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zkr\u00e1cen\u00fd \u00favazek jim prost\u011b nedaj\u00ed jenom za toho d\u016fvodu, aby dostali na n\u011b dotace. Tak\u017ee prost\u011b jenom z toho d\u016fvodu si tam od\u0161krtne toho invalidu, \u017ee na n\u011bj dostane dotace, ale ten tam mak\u00e1 300 hodin a vyk\u00e1\u017eou mu, \u017ee tam d\u011blal 80 hodin a zbytek mu d\u00e1vaj\u00ed bokem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:13<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale security a tyhle firmy cht\u011bj\u00ed jenom DPP. A kdy\u017e chcete smlouvu, tak v\u00e1m \u0159eknou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Slu\u0161nejch bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch agentur, kam bych opravdu ty lidi poslala, je minimum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:20<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Promi\u0148te, vy chcete \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee kdo je v invalidn\u00edm d\u016fchodu, tak mus\u00ed pak pracovat 24 hodin v celku?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:27<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ano. 24 hodinov\u00fd slu\u017eby, i 12 hodinov\u00fd slu\u017eby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A kde t\u0159eba? To bych cht\u011bl vid\u011bt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Indus. Blesk servis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:35<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A dal\u0161\u00ed a dal\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Zn\u00e1m, zn\u00e1m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:37<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jenom, j\u00e1 bych cht\u011bla \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee to je v\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1zor. Jsme ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed, tyto firmy tady nejsou. Jist\u011b by reagovaly zase jinak, jo. Nem\u016f\u017eeme to br\u00e1t jako, jako danou v\u011bc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:49<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, ale \u017ee my prost\u011b pro ty lidi nem\u00e1me pr\u00e1ci. \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jo, zaprv\u00e9, j\u00e1 jsem stra\u0161n\u011b zu\u0159il.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:55<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak, pan ministr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:27:57<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jsem stra\u0161n\u011b zu\u0159il, kdy\u017e jsem nastoupil, proto\u017ee stra\u0161n\u00e1 spousta pen\u011bz, hlavn\u011b z Evropy, byla opravdu utracena za, bych \u0159ekl, absolutn\u011b neefektivn\u00ed dovzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, rekvalifikace, jenom proto, \u017ee se to muselo rychle ty pen\u00edze utratit. A byly v tom miliardy korun, kter\u00e9 jsme neefektivn\u011b utratili v r\u00e1mci rekvalifikac\u00ed. To se t\u00fdk\u00e1 potom toho zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch d\u00e1vek, my jsme ud\u011blali s ministryn\u00ed financ\u00ed a s ministrem vnitra KOBRu 26, kter\u00e1 se zab\u00fdv\u00e1 i neleg\u00e1ln\u00edm zam\u011bstn\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00edm, budeme to velmi postihovat. P\u0159ipravujeme legislativu i pro zam\u011bstnavatele, kte\u0159\u00ed budou vyu\u017e\u00edvat pr\u00e1ci na \u010derno anebo \u0161edou ekonomiku jako takovou a\u017e na 12 m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u00ed fikci doplacen\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00edho poji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed pro ty, kter\u00e9 na \u010derno zam\u011bstn\u00e1vaj\u00ed. A te\u010f d\u00e1v\u00e1m je\u0161t\u011b v r\u00e1mci trestn\u00edho z\u00e1kon\u00edku zp\u0159\u00edsn\u011bn\u00ed sazeb u pr\u00e1v\u011b \u0161ed\u00e9 ekonomiky a neleg\u00e1ln\u00edch agentur jako takov\u00fdch, kde to d\u00e1v\u00e1me nahoru. Tak\u017ee kontroly a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:28:56<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, pan\u00ed p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b chce reagovat, pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:00<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tady byly snahy cel\u00fd roky tohle \u0159e\u0161it. J\u00e1 v\u00edm, \u017ee jde o to, jak prost\u011b bude fungovat inspektor\u00e1t pr\u00e1ce a jak bude \u00fa\u010dinn\u011b mo\u017en\u00fd, fakt i v t\u011bch p\u0159\u00edpadech, kde jsou dostate\u010dn\u00fd d\u016fkazy, to prost\u011b vyhr\u00e1t ten soud.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:12<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
M\u00e1m tady \u010d\u00edsla.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
V minulosti toho st\u00e1t schopen nebyl, proto\u017ee prost\u011b nezvl\u00e1dl pak tu pr\u00e1vn\u00ed str\u00e1nku v\u011bci. Tak\u017ee m\u011b by zaj\u00edmalo vlastn\u011b, co zm\u011bn\u00edte v tomhle. Ale ch\u00e1pu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:22<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mohla byste n\u00e1m laicky vysv\u011btlit, v \u010dem byl pr\u00e1vnick\u00fd probl\u00e9m, kdy\u017e n\u011bkdo tedy zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 ob\u010dany nebo dokonce invalidy?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u017de st\u00e1t nem\u011bl dostate\u010dn\u011b dobr\u00fd pr\u00e1vn\u00edky a dostate\u010dn\u011b velk\u00fd odhodl\u00e1n\u00ed to vysoudit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tich\u00e1,pracovnice \u00da\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ byli ve vl\u00e1d\u011b vy a m\u011bli jste tam sv\u00e9ho ministra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:29:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jenom chci \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee to takhle bohu\u017eel, a m\u011b to tr\u00e1p\u00ed a \u0161tve, taky jsem cht\u011bla, a\u0165 to \u0159e\u0161\u00edme. \u017de to takhle tady je bohu\u017eel t\u011bch 20 let, o kter\u00fdch mluv\u00edte. To nen\u00ed n\u011bco, co by vzniklo ze dne na den. A m\u011b proto zaj\u00edm\u00e1, co vlastn\u011b chce konkr\u00e9tn\u00edho zm\u011bnit pan ministr, proto\u017ee to je opravdu v\u011bc, co si tahle republika nese. Stejn\u011b jako se nevalorizuje rodi\u010dovsk\u00fd p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek a m\u011b to \u0161tve a je to takhle prost\u011b roky, \u017ee se nenavy\u0161uje ka\u017ed\u00fd rok.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:30:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To je n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:30:04<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak \u00fapln\u011b stejn\u011b, \u00fapln\u011b stejn\u011b se ned\u011bje tohle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:30:08<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
My jsme vlastn\u011b hned po na\u0161em n\u00e1stupu podepsali memorandum s ministryn\u00ed financ\u00ed a s ministerstvem vnitra, kde vlastn\u011b na z\u00e1klad\u011b st\u00e1tn\u00edho \u00fa\u0159adu inspektor\u00e1tu pr\u00e1ce, \u010cesk\u00e9 spr\u00e1vy soci\u00e1ln\u00edho zabezpe\u010den\u00ed, policie, celn\u00edk\u016f a finan\u010dn\u00ed spr\u00e1vy pod ministerstvem financ\u00ed d\u011bl\u00e1me takzvanou KOBRu 26 a kontrolujeme p\u0159\u00edmo na m\u00edst\u011b zam\u011bstnavatele, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed to podez\u0159en\u00ed, \u017ee zam\u011bstn\u00e1vaj\u00ed lidi na \u010derno. V tuto chv\u00edli jsme u\u017e n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem b\u011bhem t\u011bch p\u00e1r m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f m\u011bli 330 z\u00e1chyt\u016f u zam\u011bstnanc\u016f, z toho jedna t\u0159etina zhruba byla pokutov\u00e1na, ti zam\u011bstnavatel\u00e9, za to, \u017ee vlastn\u011b vyu\u017e\u00edvali jakoby neleg\u00e1ln\u00ed pr\u00e1ci ve sv\u00fdch firm\u00e1ch. To je ta konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed v\u011bc. Co se t\u00fdk\u00e1 legislativy, tak v tuto chv\u00edli budeme d\u00e1vat do platformov\u00e9ho zam\u011bstn\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed t\u00e9 transpozice evropsk\u00e9 sm\u011brnice pozm\u011b\u0148ovac\u00ed n\u00e1vrh, kde budeme skute\u010dn\u011b \u0159e\u0161it fikci 12 m\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u00ed v\u00fdplaty soci\u00e1ln\u00edho. zabezpe\u010den\u00ed pro ty zam\u011bstnavatele, kte\u0159\u00ed leg\u00e1ln\u011b zam\u011bstn\u00e1vaj\u00ed jak\u00e9hokoliv pracovn\u00edka, proto\u017ee nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed \u00fanik, i podle NK\u00da, OECD a tak d\u00e1le, i Asociace person\u00e1ln\u00edch agentur, je pr\u00e1v\u011b na soci\u00e1ln\u00edm zabezpe\u010den\u00ed, kde se nejv\u00edce podv\u00e1d\u00ed. Tak\u017ee tady v tomto duchu d\u011bl\u00e1me tyto konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed v\u011bci a legislativu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:31:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:31:27<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
My jsme se od t\u00e9 doby, co j\u00e1 jsem se p\u0159ihl\u00e1sila od mikrofonu, posunuli tro\u0161i\u010dku jinam. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b, kdy\u017e jsme u tohoto t\u00e9matu, tak by m\u011b zaj\u00edmalo, jak byly vysok\u00e9 ty pokuty, kter\u00e9 Kobra ukl\u00e1d\u00e1, proto\u017ee pokud v\u00edm, tak ten po\u010det z\u00e1chyt\u016f je obdobn\u00fd, jako byl i v minulosti, ale probl\u00e9m jsou velmi n\u00edzk\u00e9 pokuty, kter\u00e9 vlastn\u011b pro ty zam\u011bstnavatele nejsou re\u00e1ln\u00fdm dopadem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:31:49<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. Pr\u00e1v\u011b proto \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee vlastn\u011b kdy\u017e se ud\u011bl\u00e1 ten z\u00e1chyt, tak ta finan\u010dn\u00ed spr\u00e1va nic moc vymoci nem\u016f\u017ee, proto\u017ee tam jsou nap\u0159\u00edklad ti lid\u00e9 na minim\u00e1ln\u00ed mzd\u011b. Ale to, co se m\u016f\u017ee pov\u00e9st a kde jsou ty nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed finan\u010dn\u00ed prost\u0159edky v \u0159\u00e1du des\u00edtek miliard korun, jak p\u00ed\u0161e NK\u00da, nap\u0159\u00edklad 20 ro\u010dn\u011b, OECD tam m\u00e1, tu\u0161\u00edm, a\u017e 40 miliard b\u011bhem 2-3 let, kter\u00e9 unikaj\u00ed z \u010desk\u00e9ho st\u00e1tn\u00edho rozpo\u010dtu pr\u00e1v\u011b na soci\u00e1ln\u00edm zabezpe\u010den\u00ed, tak tam budeme d\u011blat tu fikci vym\u011b\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed pozp\u00e1tku a\u017e 12 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f na soci\u00e1ln\u00edm zabezpe\u010den\u00ed. A tady toto u\u017e je naps\u00e1no a toto u\u017e je v legislativn\u00edm procesu. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee vym\u00e1h\u00e1n\u00ed bude tady v tomto o mnohem, o mnohem jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:32:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. Pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:32:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jsem se p\u016fvodn\u011b hl\u00e1sila kv\u016fli n\u011b\u010demu tro\u0161i\u010dku jin\u00e9mu. A jestli se m\u016f\u017eu vr\u00e1tit k t\u00e9 debat\u011b o superd\u00e1vce. J\u00e1 jsem cht\u011bla tro\u0161i\u010dku p\u0159ipomenout to, co tady \u0159\u00edkal na za\u010d\u00e1tku pan H\u016fle, a to sice to, z \u010deho ta superd\u00e1vka vy\u0161la. To znamen\u00e1 dva syst\u00e9my, kter\u00e9 se ministerstvo pokusilo d\u00e1t dohromady. A ony ty p\u016fvodn\u00ed syst\u00e9my znamenaly, \u017ee t\u0159eba ti senio\u0159i, o kter\u00fdch vy jste mluvila, kte\u0159\u00ed vlastn\u00ed byt, to je to vlastnictv\u00ed, kde jsme se tady bavili, \u017ee vlastn\u00ed nemovitost, tak oni nezvl\u00e1dali, dejme tomu, uplatit n\u00e1klady na bydlen\u00ed, energie vysok\u00e9 a podobn\u011b, a brali v minulosti p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed. Proto bylo, pokud v\u00edm, do superd\u00e1vky zahrnuto to vlastnictv\u00ed nemovitosti, aby tito lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed vlastn\u011b m\u011bli takov\u00fdto probl\u00e9m a pou\u017e\u00edvali p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed k tomuto \u00fa\u010delu, mohli d\u00e1l \u010derpat takovouto podporu a neskon\u010dili n\u011bkde na ulici a neskon\u010dili senio\u0159i v ubytovn\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:33:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. J\u00e1 jenom, my jsme mluvili o druh\u00e9 nemovitosti, to rozporovala. Jo, nikdo nerozporoval vlastnictv\u00ed jedn\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:33:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Se c\u00edlilo pokud v\u00edm na to, \u017ee vlastn\u011b \u0159ada t\u011bchto senior\u016f m\u00e1 n\u011bkde zahr\u00e1dku nebo n\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho. Tak j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee tady vlastn\u011b je ot\u00e1zka, jestli dok\u00e1\u017eeme, a jestli ministerstvo dok\u00e1\u017ee, l\u00edp specifikovat, co je tou druhou nemovitost\u00ed. A jestli m\u016f\u017eu je\u0161t\u011b u aut, u t\u011bch aut, tak tam zase mo\u017en\u00e1 si p\u0159ipome\u0148me, \u017ee ne v\u0161ude je to o tom zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed aut, ale \u017ee to je n\u011bkdy opravdu jako nezbytnost, aby se ti lid\u00e9 dostali za prac\u00ed, proto\u017ee pokud se pod\u00edv\u00e1me do n\u011bjak\u00fdch vzd\u00e1len\u011bj\u0161\u00edch region\u016f, tak tam skute\u010dn\u011b, pokud maj\u00ed pracovat, a pokud tady je podm\u00ednka, \u017ee pracovat mus\u00ed, aby dostali superd\u00e1vku, tak potom se za n\u00ed pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed dostat. A tam, kde nen\u00ed doprava?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:34:11<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, j\u00e1 jenom, \u017ee pan H\u016fle, \u017ee jsme se o tom bavili, \u017ee auto, vlastnictv\u00ed auta nikdo nezpochyb\u0148uje. Pan H\u016fle pouze \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee tam mohou b\u00fdt i lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed auto za n\u011bkolik milion\u016f. Ch\u00e1pete? O to jde… Pane minist\u0159e, j\u00e1 bych taky cht\u011bla, aby pan profesor mluvil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:34:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jo, jo, j\u00e1 v\u00edm, j\u00e1 se omlouv\u00e1m, ale jenom pot\u0159eba je \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee ta pan\u00ed, kter\u00e1 tady hovo\u0159ila, je b\u00fdval\u00e1 n\u00e1m\u011bstkyn\u011b pana ministra Jure\u010dky za Pir\u00e1ty, pan\u00ed \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/, kter\u00e1 byla takt\u00e9\u017e str\u016fjkyn\u00ed superd\u00e1vky. Tak jenom to je pot\u0159eba \u0159\u00edct.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:34:46<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A kter\u00e1 k tomu m\u011bla hromadu p\u0159ipom\u00ednek, kter\u00e9 se bohu\u017eel nezohlednily.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:34:49<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale jenom \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee jste byla v tom managementu MPSV a m\u011bla jste to \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:34:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak poj\u010fme, to jsem nev\u011bd\u011bla, ale to nevad\u00ed. M\u011b by zaj\u00edmalo, pane profesore, vy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee ta superd\u00e1vka, \u017ee si polep\u0161\u00ed 30 % \u017eadatel\u016f, jo, z t\u011bch sou\u010dasn\u00fdch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:35:12<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 anal\u00fdza ministerstva pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:35:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. No a kdo si tedy polep\u0161\u00ed a t\u011bch 70 % si pohor\u0161\u00ed, nebo bude na jednom? Jo, jste profesor ekonomie, abyste tak\u00e9 promluvil, kdybyste n\u00e1m to vysv\u011btlil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:35:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To jenom, \u017ee tu zpr\u00e1vu tady si p\u0159e\u010detli v\u0161ichni p\u0159\u00edtomn\u00ed, aspo\u0148 ti, co stoj\u00ed. Tak\u017ee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:35:30<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, kdyby n\u00e1m jste to ob\u010dan\u016fm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:35:33<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee nen\u00ed to jenom o tom, kdo si polep\u0161\u00ed a pohor\u0161\u00ed, ale kdo my, co my, jak\u00e9ho c\u00edle chceme dos\u00e1hnout t\u00edm soci\u00e1ln\u00edm syst\u00e9mem. Tadyhle \u010dasto v t\u00e9 diskuzi to vypad\u00e1, jako kdybychom cht\u011bli, aby ty v\u00fddaje na soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky byly co nejni\u017e\u0161\u00ed, jak kdybychom necht\u011bli pom\u00e1hat t\u011bm lidem, pro kter\u00e9 ten soci\u00e1ln\u00ed syst\u00e9m tady je. Tak\u017ee j\u00e1 proto jsem si i vybral na za\u010d\u00e1tek to \u010d\u00edslo, \u017ee 2\/3 lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed n\u00edzk\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edjmy, kter\u00e9 spl\u0148uj\u00ed ten n\u00e1rok na soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vku, tak to nyn\u00ed ne\u010derpaj\u00ed. A je to z r\u016fzn\u00fdch d\u016fvod\u016f. Je to \u010dasto kv\u016fli tomu, pr\u016fzkum PAQ Research uk\u00e1zal, \u017ee 60 % lid\u00ed, co na to m\u00e1 n\u00e1rok, tak si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee na to nem\u00e1 n\u00e1rok. Tak\u017ee je to prost\u011b n\u00edzk\u00e1 informovanost. A d\u00e1le taky tam m\u016f\u017eou b\u00fdt n\u011bjak\u00e9 administrativn\u00ed p\u0159\u00ed\u010diny, kter\u00e9 t\u0159eba ta superd\u00e1vka, kterou tady minul\u00e1 i sou\u010dasn\u00e1 vl\u00e1da vlastn\u011b tak spole\u010dn\u011b zav\u00e1d\u011bj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:36:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, nezav\u00e1d\u011bj\u00ed, jo? Bacha na to. J\u00e1 jsem to, j\u00e1 jsem to zd\u011bdil a j\u00e1 to, j\u00e1 to opravuji.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:36:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak, tak, ale p\u0159esn\u011b, ale vy to opravujete, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to vylep\u0161ujete.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:36:35<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tam se to zav\u00e1d\u011blo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:36:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Perfektn\u00ed, perfektn\u00ed. Tak pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u0159eba ty administrativn\u00ed… D\u0159\u00edve byly \u010dty\u0159i d\u00e1vky, te\u010f bude jedna d\u00e1vka. To je vysloven\u011b pozitivn\u00ed. Bude to mnohem jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed o ni \u017e\u00e1dat. Ale te\u010fka, kdy\u017e sly\u0161\u00edm jako Kobra a zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed, tak se boj\u00edm, abychom o to lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed chceme, kter\u00fdm chceme pom\u00e1hat, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed velmi n\u00edzk\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edjmy, tak aby o to nep\u0159i\u0161li.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:36:58<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, my jenom jsme mluvili, vy si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee kdo teda m\u00e1 t\u0159eba ty luxusn\u00ed auta za n\u011bkolik milion\u016f a bydl\u00ed v tom hradu, jak jste s\u00e1m \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee m\u00e1 m\u00edt soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vku. My mluv\u00edme o t\u011bchto. My pr\u00e1v\u011b chceme, aby zbylo v\u00edce pro nezam\u011bstnan\u00e9, co nemohou sehnat pr\u00e1ci, nebo zdravotn\u011b posti\u017een\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:37:22<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak j\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee jako hrad i Mercedes jsou jako extr\u00e9mn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edpady. A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee jako to bychom asi se tady mo\u017en\u00e1 v\u0161ichni dokonce jako shodli, \u017ee pro tyto lidi nem\u00e1me ten soci\u00e1ln\u00ed syst\u00e9m. A je to naprosto okrajov\u00e9 nejsp\u00ed\u0161e s t\u00edm hradem extr\u00e9mn\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:37:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, to byla ilustrace. No, \u0159ekn\u011bte, pane Semer\u00e1de.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:37:45<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale takov\u00e1 je praxe, proto\u017ee m\u00e1 to b\u00fdt spravedliv\u00e9 pro v\u0161echny ale. Anebo to rozt\u0159\u00eddit do r\u016fzn\u00fdch kategori\u00ed podle t\u0159eba nemovitosti nebo ceny toho vozidla, podle toho, kdo jak\u00e1 osoba je s n\u011bjak\u00fdm posti\u017een\u00edm, a podle toho ty n\u011bkter\u00e9 lidi zv\u00fdhod\u0148ovat a n\u011bkter\u00e9 znev\u00fdhod\u0148ovat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:38:04<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jasn\u00fd, jasn\u00fd. Ale jako vlastnictv\u00ed hradu ani vlastnictv\u00ed Mercedesu nen\u00ed moc roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9. Naopak je velmi roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9, v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed, a proto tady jsem, abych to \u0159ekl, tak j\u00e1 ch\u00e1pu, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed, co n\u00e1s poslouch\u00e1, tak si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky jsou velmi zneu\u017e\u00edvan\u00e9. Ale j\u00e1, kdy\u017e se pod\u00edv\u00e1m zase na nejlep\u0161\u00ed data tady ministerstva pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed, tak z toho vy\u010d\u00edt\u00e1m, po\u010d\u00edt\u00e1m a vid\u00edm, \u017ee nejlep\u0161\u00ed dostupn\u00e1 data ukazuj\u00ed, \u017ee jenom 1 % soci\u00e1ln\u00edch d\u00e1vek je… \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:38:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, j\u00e1 jenom, pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, pan Koranda, ale vy m\u00e1te, jo, pak pan Koranda m\u00e1 pocit, \u017ee doch\u00e1z\u00ed ke zneu\u017eit\u00ed. \u0158ekn\u011bte to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:38:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed m\u00e1 tento pocit. Tak j\u00e1 se to sna\u017e\u00edm…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:38:43<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak pan Koranda v\u00e1m to \u0159ekne, pane Korando.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:38:45<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ivan Koranda,ob\u010dan z Chebu<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 m\u00e1m brig\u00e1du, bylo mi 80, ka\u017ed\u00fd rok, pokud m\u016f\u017eu. A t\u0159eba kdy\u017e v\u00edm jednu v\u011bc, kdy\u017e \/nesrozumiteln\u00e9\/ dostanou d\u00e1vky nebo pouk\u00e1zky na j\u00eddlo, ty jdou k Vietnamc\u016fm, tam je vym\u011bn\u00ed za hotov\u00e9 pen\u00edze a potom tak se to\u010d\u00ed pen\u00edze d\u00e1l, jo? A to je, a to jsou, a to nejsou mal\u00e9, to\u010d\u00ed obchody, zase to\u010d\u00ed pen\u00edze Vietnamci d\u00e1l.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:07<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jasn\u011b. Tak\u017ee v\u00e1s \u0161tve tadyhle ta \u0161ed\u00e1 \u010dern\u00e1 ekonomika.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:10<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ivan Koranda,ob\u010dan z Chebu<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, bohu\u017eel. A ta nen\u00ed mal\u00e1. To jsou, to jsou des\u00edtky a stovky miliard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 se jako v\u011bdec, tak se v\u011bnuju da\u0148ov\u00fdm \u00fanik\u016fm, tak\u017ee naprosto rozum\u00edm. J\u00e1 s v\u00e1mi souhlas\u00edm. Ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 jakoby, abychom ne\u017eili v iluzi, jak velk\u00fd ten probl\u00e9m je. Tady ten konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed probl\u00e9m zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00edch d\u00e1vek tak existuje. Lid\u00e9 maj\u00ed pravdu. Jo, maj\u00ed pravdu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale je to jenom 1 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ivan Koranda,ob\u010dan z Chebu<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 te\u010f jenom \u0159eknu, moje druh\u00e1 man\u017eelka, st\u0159edo\u0161kola\u010dka, p\u0159ed d\u016fchodem a d\u011blala za 8 000, hele, a to byla velice \u0161ikovn\u00e1 \u017eensk\u00e1 a byla r\u00e1da, \u017ee tu pr\u00e1ci sehnala ve Varech a i sobotu a ned\u011bli. N\u011bmka by za 8 000 \u010desk\u00fdch by neotev\u0159ela ani o\u010di.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale ta by m\u011bla m\u00edt tu d\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:39:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jenom \u0159eknu dv\u011b, dv\u011b v\u011bty. M\u011b m\u016f\u017eou doplnit kolegov\u00e9 t\u0159eba, kte\u0159\u00ed tady jsou z \u00fa\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce. O \u010dem mluv\u00ed pan profesor, tak m\u00e1 pravdu. To neleg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed d\u00e1vek je skute\u010dn\u011b, n\u011bkdo se sna\u017e\u00ed podv\u00e9st. Ten \u00fa\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce je opravdu 1 %. Ale j\u00e1 se bav\u00edm o tom leg\u00e1ln\u00edm zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00edch d\u00e1vek. O tom, \u017ee n\u011bkdo vlastn\u011b se tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed n\u011bjak jinak p\u0159ed \u00fa\u0159ady, ne\u017e \u017eije. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee t\u0159eba se tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jako samo\u017eivitel, ale p\u0159itom \u017eije s n\u011bk\u00fdm v dom\u00e1cnosti, jako t\u0159eba, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, s otcem nebo s matkou sv\u00fdch d\u011bt\u00ed, o kter\u00e9 se star\u00e1 a maj\u00ed spole\u010dnou dom\u00e1cnost, ale p\u0159ed \u00fa\u0159ady je samo\u017eivitel. Nebo to, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 pan H\u016fle, \u017ee jezd\u00ed prost\u011b autem za milion pro soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky. To je prost\u011b zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00edch d\u00e1vek. Je to leg\u00e1ln\u00ed, ale je to zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed. A na to j\u00e1 si chci pr\u00e1v\u011b posv\u00edtit i z d\u016fvodu majetkov\u00e9ho…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:40:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pros\u00edm, reagujte a potom se posuneme d\u00e1l.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:40:42<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 na to mus\u00edm reagovat. Podle m\u011b je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 nerozli\u0161ovat leg\u00e1ln\u00ed a neleg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed d\u00e1vek. To, co jste, pane minist\u0159e, \u0159ekl v t\u00e9 prvn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1sti, kdy\u017e n\u011bkdo p\u0159ed \u00fa\u0159ady se tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed jinak, ne\u017e re\u00e1ln\u011b je, to je neleg\u00e1ln\u00ed zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch d\u00e1vek. On de facto jakoby ne\u0159\u00edk\u00e1 pravdu t\u011bm \u00fa\u0159ad\u016fm. A podle m\u011b se st\u00e1t m\u00e1 zab\u00fdvat jenom neleg\u00e1ln\u00edm zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00edm d\u00e1vek. A po\u010dkejte, a syst\u00e9m nastavit tak, aby ten, aby byl dostate\u010dn\u011b jasn\u00fd, aby ty mantinely byly z\u0159eteln\u00e9 a cokoliv je v r\u00e1mci t\u011bch mantinel\u016f anebo mimo ty mantinely, tak rozli\u0161ovat. Ale \u0159\u00edkat, neb\u00fdt ochoten nastavit jasn\u00fd syst\u00e9m, ale pak vlastn\u011b jakoby \u0159\u00edkat, \u017ee neleg\u00e1ln\u011b zneu\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed d\u00e1vky, to jenom roze\u0161tv\u00e1v\u00e1 tu spole\u010dnost.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:41:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ten syst\u00e9m, ten syst\u00e9m jasn\u00fd je, proto jsem \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee my mus\u00edme hlavn\u011b pos\u00edlit kontrolu u\u017e t\u00e9 sou\u010dasn\u00e9 legislativy, kter\u00e1 funguje. To znamen\u00e1 pos\u00edlit kontrolu p\u0159\u00edmo nap\u0159\u00edklad kontrolou v t\u011bch dom\u00e1cnostech, proto\u017ee jak zjist\u00edme to, \u017ee my tady s pan\u00ed poslankyn\u00ed spolu bydl\u00edme, nem\u00e1me, m\u00e1me spolu dv\u011b d\u011bti, ale nejsme spolu sezdan\u00ed. Ona se tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed p\u0159ed \u00fa\u0159ady jako samo\u017eivitelka, ale m\u00e1me spole\u010dnou dom\u00e1cnost i m\u016fj p\u0159\u00edjem a t\u0159eba j\u00e1 sv\u016fj byt, kter\u00fd m\u00e1m, tak ho pronaj\u00edm\u00e1m a m\u00e1m je\u0161t\u011b pen\u00edze nav\u00edc, ale vlastn\u011b se nezapo\u010d\u00edt\u00e1vaj\u00ed, proto\u017ee se ona tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, \u017ee je samo\u017eivitelkou v na\u0161em 3+1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:41:59<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ano. Tak pan\u00ed p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:42:01<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 bych opravdu r\u00e1da, abychom se bavili v\u011bcn\u011b o tom, o co jde. Jde o to, jak prost\u011b udr\u017eet d\u016fv\u011bru v to, \u017ee fakt pom\u00e1h\u00e1me tomu, komu m\u00e1me. A j\u00e1 chci, aby se tahle d\u016fv\u011bra udr\u017eela, a proto jsem pr\u00e1v\u011b v minulosti byla r\u00e1da, \u017ee se bav\u00edme o tom, jak to ud\u011blat syst\u00e9mov\u011b. Tam byly n\u011bjak\u00e9 pokusy v Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovn\u011b ud\u011blat takov\u00e9 jako poslaneck\u00e9 novely. Tohle byla prost\u011b v\u011bc cel\u00e9ho ministerstva a to je prost\u011b spr\u00e1vn\u011b. Ale p\u0159i t\u00e9to velik\u00e9 zm\u011bn\u011b, a to je podle m\u011b pot\u0159eba si \u0159\u00edct, prost\u011b n\u011bjak\u00e9 chyby se staly. Vy \u010d\u00e1st z nich napravujete, ale \u010d\u00e1st z nich, kter\u00e9 i te\u010f s\u00e1m kritizujete, vlastn\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee to nech\u00e1te zat\u00edm b\u00fdt. A to je vlastn\u011b podstata t\u00e9 moj\u00ed ot\u00e1zky…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:42:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan\u00ed p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b, v\u00edte co, \u0159ekn\u011bte, co tedy v\u00e1m vad\u00ed. Jednu konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed v\u011bc a p\u016fjdou ob\u010dan\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:42:41<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jo. J\u00e1 jsem r\u00e1da za ty samo\u017eivitelky. To jsme toti\u017e my jako Pir\u00e1ti navrhovali a to je jeden z t\u011bch d\u016fvod\u016f, pro\u010d jsme nehlasovali ve fin\u00e1le pro, \u017ee se to pro n\u011b zlep\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:42:49<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Uklidn\u011bme, uklidn\u011bme samo\u017eivitelky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:42:53<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
O 2200 korun se bude, se zlep\u0161\u00ed u 28 000 dom\u00e1cnost\u00ed, u samo\u017eivitelek t\u00edm m\u00fdm pozm\u011b\u0148ovac\u00edm n\u00e1vrhem, t\u00edm ministersk\u00fdm, jejich situace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:43:01<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale co bohu\u017eel se nestane, pro norm\u00e1ln\u011b samostatn\u011b \u017eij\u00edc\u00edho studenta vysok\u00e9 \u0161koly, kter\u00fd se \u017eiv\u00ed s\u00e1m, vyd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1 si s\u00e1m a rodi\u010de ho nejsou schopni podporovat tak, aby v okam\u017eiku, kdy na n\u011bj nevyjdou koleje, tak aby prost\u011b uplatil n\u00e1jemn\u00e9, tak ten nem\u00e1 \u0161anci. A p\u0159epis trval\u00e9ho bydli\u0161t\u011b to ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed. M\u00e1 jedinou \u0161anci, kdy\u017e jeho partner \u010di partnerka, tak\u017ee nem\u00e1 \u0161anci, kdy\u017e je single, ale kdy\u017e partner nebo partnerka je napsan\u00fd na n\u00e1jemn\u00ed smlouv\u011b a prok\u00e1\u017eou, \u017ee spole\u010dn\u011b hospoda\u0159\u00ed. Ale my t\u00edmhle vlastn\u011b tla\u010d\u00edme studenty vysok\u00fdch \u0161kol, aby \u017eili bu\u010f v trval\u00e9m partnerstv\u00ed, nebo nem\u011bli n\u00e1rok na jakoukoliv st\u00e1tn\u00ed podporu, i kdy\u017e je v z\u00e1jmu cel\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti, aby lidi studovali. A my m\u00e1me st\u00e1le ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed a ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed po\u010det lid\u00ed, co dokon\u010d\u00ed vysokou \u0161kolu. To je trend, kter\u00fd je velmi neblah\u00fd pro na\u0161i spole\u010dnost, proto\u017ee na tom z\u00e1vis\u00ed bohatstv\u00ed na\u0161\u00ed spole\u010dnosti v budoucnu. To, jak\u00e9 budou d\u016fchody, v budoucnu z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom, jak dne\u0161n\u00ed generace dokon\u010d\u00ed vysokou \u0161kolu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:43:50<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A pro\u010d ji nedokon\u010d\u00ed? Podle v\u00e1s kv\u016fli bydlen\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:43:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano. A spousta student\u016f re\u00e1ln\u011b z brig\u00e1d p\u0159ejde na plnou pr\u00e1ci a nedokon\u010d\u00ed \u0161kolu, proto\u017ee si \u0159eknou pro\u010d, u\u017e n\u011bjakou pr\u00e1ci m\u00e1m…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:43:59<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan ministr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:44:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Takovou statistiku jsem nikde nevid\u011bl. Tam jde vlastn\u011b o to, a mo\u017en\u00e1, \u017ee tady kolegov\u00e9 z \u00fa\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce to m\u016f\u017eou \u0159\u00edct, jak to funguje v t\u00e9 praxi. Pokud m\u00e1te samoz\u0159ejm\u011b dom\u00e1cnost, kde je tady tento student, tak ta dom\u00e1cnost m\u00e1 samoz\u0159ejm\u011b i vy\u017eivovac\u00ed povinnost. Pokud on odj\u00ed\u017ed\u00ed na druhou stranu republiky studovat, nemus\u00ed bydlet s t\u011bmi rodi\u010di, ale m\u016f\u017ee bydlet najednou jakoby s\u00e1m. A tam u\u017e potom je ta dom\u00e1cnost jin\u00e1, je druh\u00e1, proto\u017ee on m\u016f\u017ee tady v t\u00e9to dom\u00e1cnosti s rodi\u010di br\u00e1t p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad, a potom my mu podruh\u00e9 d\u00e1me p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek na bydlen\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad, kdy\u017e nem\u00e1 ty koleje a m\u00e1 to bydlen\u00ed. Tak\u017ee tedy se m\u016f\u017ee odhl\u00e1sit, u\u017e neb\u00fdt v t\u00e9 spole\u010dn\u00e9 dom\u00e1cnosti t\u011bch posuzovatel\u016f nap\u0159\u00edklad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:44:44<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
V\u00e1\u017een\u00ed, takhle. Poj\u010fme, poj\u010fme na ob\u010dany. Pros\u00edm, pan\u00ed Kot\u011bborsk\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:44:56<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 jsem, p\u0159edes\u00edl\u00e1m, 30 let pracovala a svoji pr\u00e1ci jsem milovala. \u0158\u00e1dn\u011b jsem platila dan\u011b do t\u00e9 doby, ne\u017e jsem, ne svoj\u00ed chybou, musela se st\u00e1t nezam\u011bstnanou. Potom jsem onemocn\u011bla, ne vlastn\u00ed chybou. A jsem, a vlastn\u011b od roku 2022 jsem tud\u00ed\u017e nemocn\u00e1, nezam\u011bstnan\u00e1, st\u00e1rnouc\u00ed samo\u017eivitelka, kter\u00e1 se star\u00e1 o handicapovan\u00e9ho syna autista. Podle posudkov\u00fdch l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016f, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b v \u010cech\u00e1ch, je br\u00e1n od 18 let jako zcela zdrav\u00fd. To zn\u00e1me, \u017ee jo. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b, hned se vr\u00e1t\u00edm, tak\u017ee j\u00e1 jsem si za\u017e\u00e1dala, j\u00e1 jsem si za\u017e\u00e1dala o tu super d\u00e1vku…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:45:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, proto\u017ee p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00edme k t\u00e9matu a pan\u00ed Kot\u011bborsk\u00e1 m\u00e1, m\u011blo to b\u00fdt jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed, jo, jednodu\u0161e jedno pod\u00e1n\u00ed. A \u017ee Jenda, teda jako aplikace Jenda, \u017ee je Jenda, \u017ee je to legrace, \u017ee jo, \u017ee to bude jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed. Tak pan\u00ed Kot\u011bborsk\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:46:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Nen\u00ed to jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed, nen\u00ed jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed syst\u00e9m Jenda. Na\u0161t\u011bst\u00ed mi pom\u00e1hal pan z \u00fa\u0159adu pr\u00e1ce, abych se mohla zaregistrovat. A to jsem relativn\u011b po\u010d\u00edta\u010d jako, jako po\u010d\u00edta\u010dov\u011b zdatn\u00e1. Ale bylo to n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 i pro m\u011b. Tak\u017ee si nedok\u00e1\u017eu p\u0159edstavit, jak je to n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 pro ostatn\u00ed. Po\u010d\u00edta\u010d m\u00e1m, v\u0161echno, beztak jsem musela na \u00fa\u0159ad\u011b pr\u00e1ce po\u017e\u00e1dat o pomoc. Trvalo to asi p\u016fl dne. To fakt nechcete, kdy\u017e jste nemocn\u00ed, nerv\u00f3zn\u00ed a m\u00e1te prost\u011b jako, jako psychick\u00fdch probl\u00e9m\u016f takhle. Proto\u017ee, proto\u017ee m\u00e1te zku\u0161enosti od roku 2022, kde jste ne\u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b za\u017e\u00e1dali, bylo v\u00e1m doporu\u010dov\u00e1no prodat auto, bylo v\u00e1m doporu\u010dov\u00e1no, aby autistick\u00fd syn se vyka\u0161lal na \u0161kolu, st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kolu \u00da\u0159adem pr\u00e1ce Praha 13, nyn\u00ed Praha 5, aby syn za\u010dal pracovat, proto\u017ee m\u016fj syn rozhodn\u011b nepot\u0159ebuje vzd\u011bl\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:47:18<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak pan\u00ed Kot\u011bborsk\u00e1, poj\u010fme. Zase museli bychom v\u011bd\u011bt, co ten \u00fa\u0159ad, jak by zareagoval. A to um\u00edte na po\u010d\u00edta\u010di. J\u00e1 bych nejd\u0159\u00edve, aby jsme si vyslechli, jak je to, jestli je to jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed, jo? Te\u010f naslouch\u00e1te zku\u0161enostem ob\u010dan\u016f. Pane Semer\u00e1de, tak co vy? Vy jste si taky za\u017e\u00e1dal o super d\u00e1vku. Co Jenda?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:47:49<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jenda, tak jsem se zaregistroval, ale u\u017e m\u011b to tam nikdy nepustilo. Tak jsem musel chodit na \u00fa\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce za mlad\u00fdmi sle\u010dnami nebo t\u011bmi \u00fa\u0159ednicemi. Dv\u011b to \u0159e\u0161ily, \u010dty\u0159ikr\u00e1t jsme to tam pos\u00edlali. Divili se sami. Je\u0161t\u011b m\u011b se ptali, jak je to mo\u017en\u00e9. Podal jsem si \u017e\u00e1dost hned 1. 10. Te\u010f mi p\u0159i\u0161el dokument, proto\u017ee jste si mohla nastavit, \u017ee v\u00e1m to bu\u010f chodilo ozn\u00e1men\u00ed do SMSky, anebo do e-mailu. Mn\u011b to ud\u011blala ta \u00fa\u0159ednice do SMSky, ale tam mi p\u0159ijde jenom \u00fakol, ale j\u00e1 z toho \u00fakolu nev\u00edm nic. Tak jsem musel v\u017edycky b\u011bhat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:48:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A co v\u00e1m t\u0159eba p\u0159i\u0161lo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:48:27<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, \u017ee jsem musel znova dokl\u00e1dat ty doklady.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:48:29<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A co t\u0159eba?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:48:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
T\u0159eba smlouvu, smlouvu o byt\u011b, \u017ee tam sch\u00e1zelo \u010d\u00edslo bytu 14, proto\u017ee Plze\u0148 d\u011blala Ostrava a Brno, Plze\u0148 ned\u011blala tady tu super d\u00e1vku. A kdy\u017e jsem se dozv\u011bd\u011bl od \u00fa\u0159ednic, tak Ostrava d\u011blala Plze\u0148 anebo Brno n\u00e1s d\u011blalo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:48:45<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A potom v\u00e1m taky ten Jenda psal, \u017ee mo\u017en\u00e1 p\u0159ijdete o v\u016fbec.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:48:50<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Milo\u0161 Semer\u00e1d,ob\u010dan z Plzn\u011b<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kdy\u017e to nebylo jakoby v limitu. T\u0159eba mi p\u0159i\u0161lo, p\u0159i\u0161el mi \u00fakol t\u0159eba p\u0159ed v\u00edkendem a v ned\u011bli u\u017e, u\u017e m\u011b, nebo v pond\u011bl\u00ed, \u017ee u\u017e m\u011b to jako upozor\u0148ovalo, \u017ee m\u016f\u017eu b\u00fdt vy\u0159azen, jo? Jsem se divil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:49:05<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A je\u0161t\u011b, abyste pak mohl reagovat kv\u016fli \u010dasu. Pane H\u016fle, vy zase co? M\u016f\u017eete, jo, vy to zvl\u00e1dnete pomoci ob\u010dan\u016fm to vyplnit. Ale co v\u00e1m zase vad\u00ed na tom Jendovi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:49:19<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, j\u00e1 mus\u00edm ocenit pana ministra v tom, \u017ee prosadil rychlou novelu technickou, kter\u00e1 odlo\u017eila \u00fa\u010dinnost, proto\u017ee pokud by to opravdu nastoupilo k tomu 1. dubnu, tak tady prost\u011b des\u00edtky tis\u00edc dom\u00e1cnost\u00ed budou absolutn\u011b \u0161\u00edlet, proto\u017ee ten syst\u00e9m na to nebyl p\u0159ipraven\u00fd. Ve sv\u00e9 podstat\u011b na ministerstvu, na ministerstvu prost\u011b uv\u011b\u0159ili tomu, \u017ee dneska jsme se u\u017e tak posunuli technologicky, \u017ee vlastn\u011b v\u0161ichni maj\u00ed bankovn\u00ed identitu a podobn\u011b. Na\u0161i klienti nemaj\u00ed a s nimi to vy\u0159izovat je opravdu tortura. Zat\u011b\u017euje to \u00fa\u0159ady, proto\u017ee ti lid\u00e9 \u010dasto mus\u00ed nakonec j\u00edt na ten \u00fa\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce, kde to s nimi ty \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci vypl\u0148uj\u00ed. Tak\u017ee opravdu, ono to vypad\u00e1, jakoby slou\u010d\u00edme \u010dty\u0159i d\u00e1vky do jedn\u00e9, bude to technicky dokonal\u00e9. Ale ten proces selh\u00e1v\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:50:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pane H\u016fle, je\u0161t\u011b v\u00e1m vad\u00ed, \u017ee vlastn\u011b vy te\u010f, kdy\u017e v\u00e1m n\u011bkdo p\u0159ijde, mysl\u00edte, \u017ee budu m\u00edt d\u00e1vku, super d\u00e1vku, nebo jak bude vysok\u00e1, tak vy co?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:50:13<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daniel H\u016fle,vedouc\u00ed dluhov\u00e9ho poradenstv\u00ed, \u010clov\u011bk v t\u00edsni<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, tak od za\u010d\u00e1tku to vlastn\u011b trochu p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 ten film J\u00e1chyme ho\u010f to do stroje. Prost\u011b \u010dlov\u011bk se mus\u00ed zeptat na spoustu \u00fadaj\u016f, ty nah\u00e1\u017ee do n\u011bjak\u00e9 kalkula\u010dky, kter\u00e1 na\u0161t\u011bst\u00ed u\u017e te\u010f na MPSV je, by\u0165 tam je zd\u016frazn\u011bno, \u017ee to nen\u00ed jakoby garantovan\u00fd v\u00fdsledek. A hod\u00ed to n\u011bjak\u00fd v\u00fdsledek. Opravdu jakoby vlastn\u011b porozum\u011bt tomu, jestli ten \u010dlov\u011bk dos\u00e1hne na komponentu na bydlen\u00ed a podobn\u011b, jako to bylo mo\u017en\u00fd d\u0159\u00edv. To fakt v praxi nen\u00ed. Kdy\u017e n\u00e1m lidi volaj\u00ed na help linku, tak n\u00e1m musej\u00ed \u0159\u00edct spoustu dost jakoby soukrom\u00fdch \u00fadaj\u016f, co\u017e necht\u011bj\u00ed \u0159\u00edkat, proto\u017ee kdy\u017e se jich pt\u00e1te jakoby na v\u0161echny ty \u00fadaje, kter\u00e9 \u010dlov\u011bk mus\u00ed zjistit, tak je to prost\u011b jakoby ned\u016fv\u011bryhodn\u00fd a podobn\u011b. Tak\u017ee z t\u00e9hle str\u00e1nky porozum\u011bn\u00ed tomu, kdo na to m\u00e1 n\u00e1rok, je to ne\u0161ikovn\u00e9, a proto, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 pan profesor J\u00e1nsk\u00fd, spoustu lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed na to maj\u00ed n\u00e1rok, ji ne\u010derpaj\u00ed, proto\u017ee vlastn\u011b ani nev\u011bd\u00ed, jestli by na ni dos\u00e1hli.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1, m\u016f\u017eu je\u0161t\u011b, m\u016f\u017eu je\u0161t\u011b v rychlosti reagovat na pana ministra?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:10<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:13<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
My tady \u0159e\u0161\u00edme furt n\u011bjakou soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vku, n\u011bjak\u00fd mechanismy, auta, bar\u00e1ky, jo? To m\u016f\u017eeme za chvilku \u0159e\u0161it i me\u0161itu pana Okamury, co m\u00e1 postavenou. Ten by taky m\u011bl n\u00e1rok na tu d\u00e1vku. Ale k v\u011bci. Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, vy jste ministr soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed, ale taky pr\u00e1ce. Pro\u010d nezajist\u00edte rovn\u00fd podm\u00ednky, pracovn\u00ed rovn\u00fd podm\u00ednky lidem, jako jsem j\u00e1? A mysl\u00edm, \u017ee by, \u017ee by ten soci\u00e1ln\u00ed syst\u00e9m u\u0161et\u0159il p\u016flku vynalo\u017een\u00fdch pen\u011bz na ty soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vky. Na tohle t\u00e9ma se tady v\u016fbec zapom\u00edn\u00e1. A v tomhle vy selh\u00e1v\u00e1te.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:45<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Po\u010dkejte, ale my prob\u00edr\u00e1me super d\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:48<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano, ale ta super d\u00e1vka je…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:49<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 se k v\u00e1m vr\u00e1t\u00edm, jo? K t\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:51:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1, j\u00e1 jenom chci \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee tady pan ministr zapomn\u011bl \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee jeden z hlavn\u00edch pil\u00ed\u0159\u016f, abyste dos\u00e1hla ty super d\u00e1vky, je, \u017ee aspo\u0148 jeden \u010dlen rodiny mus\u00ed pracovat. Ale pokava\u010f m\u00e1 ten \u010dlen rodiny barvu k\u016f\u017ee jako j\u00e1, to je t\u0159eba mokka k\u00e1va, tak jste bez pr\u00e1ce. A automaticky nespl\u0148ujete podm\u00ednky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:12<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, tak mus\u00edte j\u00edt za evidovatelkou pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:15<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kam a ten m\u011b vyhod\u00ed. A vy mi tu pr\u00e1ci d\u00e1te?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:18<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, ned\u00e1me, ale zaevidujeme v\u00e1s<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:19<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, tak vid\u00edte to. A jsme tam u toho. Tak\u017ee zase nespl\u0148uju podm\u00ednky. Tak tady nepov\u00eddejte nesmysly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, ale mus\u00edte se zaevidovat, abyste byl v evidenci. Budete k n\u00e1m doch\u00e1zet a budete br\u00e1t super d\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Fakt? Takhle to nefunguje, takhle to tam nen\u00ed napsan\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:35<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010danka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, u n\u00e1s to takhle funguje, \u017ee se tam lidi chod\u00ed evidovat kv\u016fli super d\u00e1vce a pracovat t\u0159eba ani necht\u011bj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A m\u016f\u017eete mi vysv\u011btlit, pro\u010d nenarovn\u00e1te ty pracovn\u00ed podm\u00ednky, aby lidi dostali pr\u00e1ci a nemuseli, nemuseli chodit \u017e\u00e1dat o ty super d\u00e1vky? A je\u0161t\u011b, pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, v rychlosti…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:52:51<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pane Hol\u00fd, ale mn\u011b jde o to, pane Hol\u00fd, budete, pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, nejd\u0159\u00edve odpov\u011bzme na to, jestli na tu, vr\u00e1t\u00edme se k v\u00e1m. Ale j\u00e1 se k v\u00e1m vr\u00e1t\u00edm, pane Hol\u00fd. Ale jde o to, \u017ee to tedy na spoustu lid\u00ed nep\u016fsob\u00ed jednodu\u0161eji. Kdo chce na to reagovat? Pros\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:53:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 bych k tomu cht\u011bl komentovat, proto\u017ee jsem jak na stran\u011b ob\u010dan\u016f, proto\u017ee j\u00e1 pom\u00e1h\u00e1m na soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00edch a vysv\u011btluju ob\u010dan\u016fm tu super d\u00e1vku, tak jsem na stran\u011b i t\u011bch \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk\u016f. Bohu\u017eel mus\u00edm \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee konstatovat to, a je v tom p\u0159\u00ed\u010dinou i t\u00e1mhle pan\u00ed poslankyn\u011b Richterov\u00e1, kter\u00e1 byla s minulou vl\u00e1dou. Byla jste pro soci\u00e1ln\u00ed politiku…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:53:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
V\u00e1\u017een\u00ed, \u010das b\u011b\u017e\u00ed. M\u011b zaj\u00edm\u00e1, jestli s t\u00edm n\u011bco budete d\u011blat?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:53:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No, \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci m\u016f\u017eou d\u011blat jedin\u011b, kdy\u017e pan ministr a to d\u011bl\u00e1, jak s tou, jak s t\u00edm zn\u011bn\u00edm t\u011bch parametr\u016f, zn\u011bn\u00ed t\u011bch normativ\u016f a tak d\u00e1le. Ale co je ta prvn\u00ed, tak je to pot\u0159eba t\u011bm ob\u010dan\u016fm vysv\u011btlit. Ob\u010dan\u00e9 dneska nev\u011bd\u00ed…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:53:53<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale v\u017edy\u0165 pan H\u016fle jim to vysv\u011btluje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:53:58<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Z praxe v\u00edme, tak jak to p\u0159ipravil pan ministr Jure\u010dka, \u017ee super d\u00e1vka je o t\u0159ech formul\u00e1\u0159\u00edch. Star\u00e9 d\u00e1vky byly o 60 formul\u00e1\u0159\u00edch. A dneska ty ob\u010dan\u00e9 byli zvykl\u00ed na t\u011bch 60 formul\u00e1\u0159\u016f. A dneska, kdy\u017e v\u00e1m n\u011bkdo \u0159ekne, \u017ee m\u00e1te t\u0159eba don\u00e9st potvrzen\u00ed o \u00fahrad\u011b n\u00e1klad\u016f na bydlen\u00ed, tak byli d\u0159\u00edv zvykl\u00ed, \u017ee donesli v\u00fdpis z \u00fa\u010dtu. Ale dneska ten v\u00fdpis z \u00fa\u010dtu nenos\u00ed, maj\u00ed don\u00e9st jenom potvrzen\u00ed z banky nebo potvrzen\u00ed od toho pronaj\u00edmatele. A kdy\u017e to potvrzen\u00ed od toho pronaj\u00edmatele nen\u00ed p\u0159esn\u011b podle toho, jak \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edci jsou nau\u010den\u00ed, neboli nenau\u010den\u00ed, tak prost\u011b ne, ta d\u00e1vka jim to nep\u0159ijme. Ta d\u00e1vka to pak d\u00e1 \u00fakol, ten \u00fakol pak m\u00e1 t\u0159i dny a po \u00fakolu…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:54:38<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Po\u010dkejte, pan Hol\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:54:41<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Na jak\u00fd planet\u011b \u017eijete? J\u00e1 \u017eiju v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice a \u017eiju jak za b\u00fdval\u00e9 vl\u00e1dy, tak \u017eiju i za t\u00e9hle vl\u00e1dy. A stoprocentn\u011b v\u00edm. A na v\u00e1s bych cht\u011bl odpov\u011bd\u011bt jenom…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:54:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Po\u010dkejte, nechte pana Hol\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:54:54<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Co byste mi cht\u011bl odpov\u011bd\u011bt? Cht\u011bl odpov\u011bd\u011bt s tou prac\u00ed, jak vy \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te. Probl\u00e9m je jedin\u00fd v tom, \u017ee kdy\u017e byly star\u00e9 d\u00e1vky, tak… M\u011b nezaj\u00edmaj\u00ed d\u00e1vky. M\u011b zaj\u00edm\u00e1 pr\u00e1ce. Pracovn\u00ed aktivita, pracovn\u00ed aktivita, abyste m\u011bl n\u00e1rok na \u017eivobyt\u00ed, byla 20 hodin dohoda o proveden\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci. Ale j\u00e1 chci pracovat. J\u00e1 nechci br\u00e1t d\u00e1vku na \u017eivobyt\u00ed. Co mi to tady pov\u00edd\u00e1te, vy super d\u00e1vko.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:55:14<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pros\u00edm v\u00e1s, v\u00edte co, pane Hol\u00fd. Ne, nech\u00e1me, pan Hol\u00fd chce odpov\u011b\u010f pana ministra ohledn\u011b t\u00e9 pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:55:23<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pro\u010d nenarovn\u00e1te pracovn\u00ed podm\u00ednky pro v\u0161echny lidi? Pod\u00edvejte se, j\u00e1 kdy\u017e jako Rom p\u016fjdu do pr\u00e1ce, budu m\u00edt kvalifikaci, budu vyu\u010denej, jo, budu spl\u0148ovat v\u0161echny podm\u00ednky, pr\u00e1ci nedostanu. P\u016fjde tam, p\u016fjde tam p\u00e1n a dostane ji. Tak pak se nedivte, \u017ee Romov\u00e9 musej\u00ed \u017e\u00edt z t\u011bch soci\u00e1ln\u00edch d\u00e1vek. Vy si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee to sta\u010d\u00ed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:55:47<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:55:47<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee takhle skute\u010dnost jako nevypad\u00e1. Nap\u0159\u00edklad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:55:51<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne. Skute\u010dnost tak vypad\u00e1!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:55:52<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Po\u010dkejte, pane. Pane Hol\u00fd, ale j\u00e1 v\u00e1m n\u011bco \u0159eknu. My m\u00e1me t\u00e9ma super d\u00e1vky…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:04<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pr\u00e1ci nedostanu, tak se p\u016fjdu p\u00e1st.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan Hol\u00fd na za\u010d\u00e1tku \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee teda, \u017ee pracuje. Tak\u017ee asi tady tento probl\u00e9m nem\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:10<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pane Hol\u00fd, po\u010dkejte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:13<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Z \u00facty a respektu k v\u00e1m budu ml\u010det.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:15<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mn\u011b jde o to, \u017ee u\u017e mus\u00edme kon\u010dit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:18<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Vy jste nekompetentn\u00ed osoba na tom ministerstvu. No vid\u00edte, pane Juchelka, j\u00e1 jsem v\u00e1s m\u011bl r\u00e1d, kdy\u017e jste moderoval v televizi Med\u00fazu. J\u00e1 v\u00e1m to ned\u00e1m zadarmo…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:33<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan Hol\u00fd si polo\u017e\u00ed ot\u00e1zku a pak si s\u00e1m odpov\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:37<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 v\u00e1s popros\u00edm. Pan ministr, pan ministr… V\u00e1\u017een\u00ed, nech\u00e1me pana ministra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:44<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pan Hol\u00fd si polo\u017e\u00ed ot\u00e1zku a s\u00e1m si odpov\u00ed. Tak\u017ee trh pr\u00e1ce, jako trh pr\u00e1ce jako takov\u00fd, je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b jakoby narovnan\u00fd. Je pro v\u0161echny \u00fapln\u011b stejn\u00fd. J\u00e1 m\u00e1m, j\u00e1 m\u00e1m, j\u00e1 m\u00e1m na ministerstvu prvn\u00ed romskou n\u00e1m\u011bstkyni…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:56:59<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
M\u016f\u017eete mu d\u00e1t smlouvu, pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:01<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Nem\u016f\u017eu, u\u017e mus\u00edme kon\u010dit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:03<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 se zbl\u00e1zn\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:06<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale tak j\u00e1 v\u00e1m n\u011bco \u0159eknu. Tady pan ministr v\u00e1m odpov\u00edd\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:11<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale pan ministr tady l\u017ee. Jako jeho vl\u00e1da cel\u00e1. On to m\u00e1 nau\u010den\u00fd od Babi\u0161e. Podle noti\u010dek p\u011bkn\u011b. A lidi mu budou tleskat. Pane minist\u0159e, j\u00e1 nem\u00e1m v kapse koblihu ani v ruce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:22<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pros\u00edm, j\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee bychom se m\u011bli vr\u00e1tit k tomu, \u017ee skute\u010dnej probl\u00e9m super d\u00e1vky…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 bych cht\u011bla, aby pan ministr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:27<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 se sna\u017e\u00edm odpov\u011bd\u011bt, ale pan Hol\u00fd mi do toho neust\u00e1le sk\u00e1\u010de.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:31<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ne, ale nechme odpov\u011bd\u011bt pana ministra. A t\u00edm bohu\u017eel skon\u010d\u00edme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:57:36<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Bohu\u017eel. J\u00e1 zn\u00e1m spoustu Rom\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed naopak pracuj\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou v pracovn\u00edm procesu, kte\u0159\u00ed vyd\u011bl\u00e1vaj\u00ed a nemaj\u00ed v\u016fbec probl\u00e9m ani s rekvalifikac\u00ed, ani sehnat si pr\u00e1ci, ani komunikovat s \u00fa\u0159adem pr\u00e1ce, kter\u00fd jim doporu\u010d\u00ed n\u011bjakou pr\u00e1ci. Nemaj\u00ed s t\u00edm \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd probl\u00e9m. Trh pr\u00e1ce u n\u00e1s je narovnan\u00fd, nen\u00ed diskrimina\u010dn\u00ed. A pokud je, tak na to m\u00e1me syst\u00e9my a \u00fa\u0159ady a m\u016f\u017eete si klidn\u011b st\u011b\u017eovat t\u0159eba na st\u00e1tn\u00edm \u00fa\u0159adu inspektor\u00e1tu pr\u00e1ce, pokud si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee v\u00e1s n\u011bkdo nezam\u011bstnal jenom proto, \u017ee jste Rom. U n\u00e1s na MPSV to takhle v\u016fbec nefunguje. J\u00e1 m\u00e1m prvn\u00ed romskou n\u00e1m\u011bstkyni v historii \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:15<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
V\u00edte, co ud\u011bl\u00e1me, pane minist\u0159e?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:17<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed hlavn\u011b na va\u0161\u00ed aktivit\u011b, proto\u017ee j\u00e1 m\u00e1m spoustu romsk\u00fdch p\u0159\u00e1tel, kte\u0159\u00ed norm\u00e1ln\u011b pracuj\u00ed, norm\u00e1ln\u011b studuj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:26<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
My ud\u011bl\u00e1me, ud\u011bl\u00e1me t\u00e9ma o… Na va\u0161e t\u00e9ma. Co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te? Ano, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:34<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
J\u00e1 s t\u00edm souhlas\u00edm. Poj\u010fme se pobavit jako o trhu pr\u00e1ce, o tom, \u017ee to maj\u00ed n\u011bkter\u00e9 skupiny t\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed, n\u011bkter\u00e9 ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A jenom mus\u00edme skon\u010dit, pane minist\u0159e, posledn\u00ed v\u011bc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:44<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale je pot\u0159eba nelhat u toho ani…<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:47<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak ale dost!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:48<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ob\u010dan<\/p>\n\n\n\n
No dob\u0159e, pan\u00ed J\u00edlkov\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:51<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pane minist\u0159e, je\u0161t\u011b zjednodu\u0161te n\u011bjak tedy ty… V\u00edte co, \u017ee lid\u00e9 opravdu maj\u00ed probl\u00e9m to pod\u00e1vat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:58:59<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale\u0161 Juchelka,ministr pr\u00e1ce a soci\u00e1ln\u00edch v\u011bc\u00ed \/ANO\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To ur\u010dit\u011b ano. My m\u00e1me stra\u0161n\u011b, stra\u0161nou spoustu asistovan\u00fdch pod\u00e1n\u00ed. To je zhruba 42 %. 58 jde p\u0159es Jendu. Ten syst\u00e9m jako takov\u00fd funguje. A j\u00e1 jsem poprosil i v pond\u011bl\u00ed neziskov\u00fd sektor, se kter\u00fdm jsem byl, aby takt\u00e9\u017e d\u011blali osv\u011btu. A takt\u00e9\u017e oni pom\u00e1haj\u00ed i s Jendou a vlastn\u011b, aby p\u0159ilo\u017eili ruku k d\u00edlu, co\u017e oni d\u011blaj\u00ed. Nap\u0159\u00edklad Charita \u010cesk\u00e1 republika a tak d\u00e1le, kter\u00e1 pom\u00e1h\u00e1 t\u011bm lidem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:59:25<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A je tak\u00e9 d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, co vy jste, pane profesore, \u0159ekl, \u017ee \u0159ada lid\u00ed m\u00e1 n\u00e1rok na tu d\u00e1vku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:59:32<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Petr Jansk\u00fd,profesor ekonomie, Centrum ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, Univerzita Karlova<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ta lep\u0161\u00ed informovanost, na kter\u00e9 se tady v\u0161ichni shodneme, tak povede k lep\u0161\u00edmu vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed, ne zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed a vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed toho syst\u00e9mu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:59:39<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Aby se nestyd\u011bli.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:59:40<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
To by bylo skv\u011bl\u00e9. A je\u0161t\u011b by bylo skv\u011bl\u00e9, kdyby se p\u0159ehodnotilo t\u011bch 77 okres\u016f pro v\u00fdpo\u010det t\u011bch normativ\u016f bydlen\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:59:46<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ale to u\u017e nest\u00edh\u00e1me. Pod\u00edvejte se na hodiny. Je\u017ei\u0161mankote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
00:59:53<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Olga Richterov\u00e1,p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b poslaneck\u00e9ho klubu a m\u00edstop\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Pir\u00e1t\u016f<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A te\u010f hroz\u00ed, \u017ee prost\u011b nebude dostate\u010dn\u00e1 ta podpora v bydlen\u00ed. Tak to je jedin\u00e9, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
01:00:01<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Michaela J\u00edlkov\u00e1,moder\u00e1torka<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Tak mil\u00ed div\u00e1ci, mil\u00ed div\u00e1ci, j\u00e1 v\u00e1m d\u011bkuji. Mus\u00edme kon\u010dit. Te\u010f se neuvid\u00edme dva m\u011bs\u00edce. Uvid\u00edme se v z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, 17. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed bude zase M\u00e1te slovo. J\u00e1 v\u00e1m p\u0159eji kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 l\u00e9to. Hlavn\u011b bu\u010fte zdrav\u00ed. Zdrav\u00ed je nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Zdrav\u00ed v\u00e1m p\u0159eju, klid. A vy u\u017e v\u00edte, v z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, \u017ee ve \u010dtvrtek M\u00e1te slovo. Na shledanou a d\u011bkuju<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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M\u00e1te slovo \u010cT 1 Bude nov\u00e1 Superd\u00e1vka spravedliv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed? Dostanou v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed finan\u010dn\u00ed pomoc ob\u010dan\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou v nouzi? Nebo i ti, kte\u0159\u00ed pomoc z va\u0161ich dan\u00ed […]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2579,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-64260","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-spolecnost"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64260","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=64260"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64260\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/2579"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=64260"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=64260"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=64260"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}