{"id":8419,"date":"2013-07-27T13:14:10","date_gmt":"2013-07-27T11:14:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=8419"},"modified":"2013-07-27T13:56:45","modified_gmt":"2013-07-27T11:56:45","slug":"nejsme-vysinuti-sektari-rika-prukopnik-pestounske-pece","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.invarena.cz\/?p=8419","title":{"rendered":"Nejsme vy\u0161inut\u00ed sekt\u00e1\u0159i, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 pr\u016fkopn\u00edk p\u011bstounsk\u00e9 p\u00e9\u010de"},"content":{"rendered":"

Vratislav Hl\u00e1sek s man\u017eelkou Al\u017eb\u011btou byli v roce 2011\u00a0jedin\u00fdmi p\u011bstouny na p\u0159echodnou dobu v republice. St\u00e1t tehdy tuto formu p\u011bstounstv\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b nepodporoval. Rozhovor. <\/strong><\/p>\n

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„Macela se rozhodl to zm\u011bnit. Navzdory protitlak\u016fm, t\u011b\u017eko propustn\u00fdm politick\u00fdm s\u00edt\u016fm, restrikc\u00edm a nejist\u00e9 turbulentn\u00ed dob\u011b. Nutn\u011b pot\u0159eboval uk\u00e1zat, \u017ee se novela op\u00edr\u00e1 o n\u011bjak\u00e9 praktick\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti. Tak jsme s n\u00edm za\u010dali jezdit na r\u016fzn\u00e1 setk\u00e1n\u00ed se soci\u00e1ln\u00edmi pracovn\u00edky.“<\/p>\n

– HN: Jak na v\u00e1s reagovali?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mnoz\u00ed zpo\u010d\u00e1tku ned\u016fv\u011b\u0159iv\u011b a\u017e odm\u00edtav\u011b. Pak ale vid\u011bli, \u017ee nejsme n\u011bjac\u00ed vy\u0161inut\u00ed sekt\u00e1\u0159i. Da\u0159ilo se n\u00e1m jim vysv\u011btlit, \u017ee p\u011bstounskou slu\u017ebu m\u00e1me racion\u00e1ln\u011b promy\u0161lenou a \u017ee m\u00e1me zpracovanou i emo\u010dn\u00ed str\u00e1nku.<\/p>\n

– HN: Pr\u00e1v\u011b \u2013 kritici novely nam\u00edtaj\u00ed, \u017ee pokud si p\u011bstoun na p\u0159echodnou dobu vytvo\u0159\u00ed k d\u00edt\u011bti citov\u00fd vztah, m\u016f\u017ee to b\u00fdt pro n\u011bj nep\u0159ekonateln\u00fd probl\u00e9m. Jak tohle zvl\u00e1d\u00e1te?<\/strong><\/p>\n

P\u0159edstavte si, \u017ee m\u00e1te sestru s mal\u00fdm miminkem, kter\u00e1 n\u00e1hle onemocn\u00ed. Ne\u0159eknete \u2013 dej ho do koje\u0148\u00e1ku, abychom si na n\u011b nezvykli. Star\u00e1te se o n\u011b s l\u00e1skou, s v\u011bdom\u00edm, \u017ee na konci \u010dek\u00e1 radostn\u00e1 ud\u00e1lost. Maminka se uzdrav\u00ed a je zp\u00e1tky. A my jsme vlastn\u011b takov\u00ed p\u0159\u00edbuzn\u00ed st\u00e1tu. P\u0159eb\u00edr\u00e1me od n\u011bj miminko, kter\u00e9 by jinak skon\u010dilo v koje\u0148\u00e1ku. A star\u00e1me se o n\u011bj s o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00edm radostn\u00e9 ud\u00e1losti. N\u00e1vratu do p\u016fvodn\u00ed rodiny nebo p\u0159ed\u00e1n\u00ed osvojitel\u016fm.<\/p>\n

– HN: Jak jste vn\u00edmal argument exprezidenta Klause, \u017ee po p\u0159ijet\u00ed novely hlavn\u00ed motivac\u00ed p\u011bstoun\u016f nebude soucit s d\u011btmi, ale pen\u00edze?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Pan Klaus se r\u00e1d d\u00edv\u00e1 na v\u011bci ekonomicky, tak poj\u010fme na to: Za p\u00e9\u010di o jedno d\u00edt\u011b dost\u00e1v\u00e1me dvacet tis\u00edc hrub\u00e9ho, to je po zdan\u011bn\u00ed \u010dtrn\u00e1ct tis\u00edc. Plus za d\u011bti do t\u0159\u00ed let sedm tis\u00edc \u0161est set. A jste v pr\u00e1ci \u010dty\u0159iadvacet hodin denn\u011b. Mysl\u00edte, \u017ee je to tak z\u00e1vratn\u00e1 suma, kter\u00e1 p\u0159itahuje ziskuchtivce? A mimochodem, copak pracovn\u00edci v kojeneck\u00fdch \u00fastavech pracuj\u00ed zadarmo?<\/p>\n

– HN: Pr\u00e1v\u011b lid\u00e9 z kojeneck\u00fdch \u00fastav\u016f si st\u011b\u017eovali: My t\u011bm d\u011btem d\u00e1v\u00e1me v\u0161echno a te\u010f jsme Macelou ozna\u010deni jako ti, kdo jim \u0161kod\u00ed. Jak byste jim odpov\u011bd\u011bl?<\/strong><\/p>\n

L\u00e9ka\u0159i na onkologick\u00e9m odd\u011blen\u00ed tak\u00e9 pro d\u011bti d\u011blaj\u00ed, co mohou. A p\u0159ece ne\u0159eknete: je dob\u0159e, \u017ee tam to d\u00edt\u011b mus\u00ed le\u017eet.<\/p>\n

– HN: Pon\u011bkud drastick\u00fd argument…<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tak jinak. Nikdo nesm\u00ed b\u00fdt dr\u017een v nemocnici, pokud nen\u00ed nemocen. Pr\u00e1v\u011b tak soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u016fvod nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt d\u016fvodem k um\u00edst\u011bn\u00ed d\u00edt\u011bte do soci\u00e1ln\u00edch za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed. J\u00e1 nezpochyb\u0148uji, \u017ee v t\u011bch \u00fastavech pracuj\u00ed \u00fa\u017easn\u00ed lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed d\u011blaj\u00ed, co mohou. Limity \u00fastavu ale p\u0159ekro\u010dit nelze.<\/p>\n

– HN: Opravdu je t\u0159eba jen t\u0159\u00edm\u011bs\u00ed\u010dn\u00ed pobyt v \u00fastavu pro d\u00edt\u011b tak zni\u010duj\u00edc\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dovedete si p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee byste b\u011bhem t\u011bhotenstv\u00ed vyndali d\u00edt\u011b z d\u011blohy a tvrdili, \u017ee to nebude m\u00edt n\u00e1sledky? Zejm\u00e9na v prvn\u00edch t\u0159ech m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch po narozen\u00ed ten proces spojen\u00ed s matkou pokra\u010duje. A jestli\u017ee to spojen\u00ed p\u0159eru\u0161\u00edte a d\u00e1te d\u00edt\u011b do prost\u0159ed\u00ed, kde se st\u0159\u00eddaj\u00ed sm\u011bny, za\u010dne se utv\u00e1\u0159et podle nov\u00e9ho prost\u0159ed\u00ed. Tak, \u017ee mnohdy u\u017e nen\u00e1vratn\u011b ztrat\u00ed schopnost navazovat bl\u00edzk\u00e9 vztahy.<\/p>\n

– HN: P\u0159ekvapilo v\u00e1s Macelovo odvol\u00e1n\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

P\u0159ekvapilo. Myslel jsem, \u017ee nejhor\u0161\u00ed m\u00e1 za sebou. Pochopil jsem, \u017ee lobbistick\u00e9 skupiny nakonec na\u0161ly cestu, jak usp\u011bt. Ale kdy\u017e chcete n\u011b\u010demu pro\u0161lap\u00e1vat cestu, mus\u00edte s t\u00edm spojit i svou kari\u00e9ru. Ale on m\u016f\u017ee odch\u00e1zet s pocitem, \u017ee dos\u00e1hl toho, \u010deho mohl. A dokonce snad i n\u011b\u010deho nav\u00edc, s \u010d\u00edm ani nemohl po\u010d\u00edtat. Co nikdo do t\u00e9 doby nedok\u00e1zal.<\/p>\n

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